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Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:39 pm

and also dude can you add the player reaction when they do a fantastic dunk or any great play just like in 07.. if the player shot a 3 pts the camera will be focus to the player and if the player will do a great dunk the camera will be focus on player and the player will positively react....

Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:43 pm

WebberF1 wrote:
Just to let you guys know lionld has made a batch file for the sigshots and I have converted to work with both NLSC and IRPT style roster and will release soon with 1.2.


Also mine Realistic Roster? :D

I have also fixed the allstar sigshots. But the batch file does this also. If you use my roster you shouldn't need to use batch file, but if you use other roster you should use batch file. To the least I reccommend albys for using national teams and applying batch file.

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Thanks! :wink:


Note:
I think the four different rosters (NLSC, IRPT, Webber and RR) are a resource for all fan of Live 08 and friends of NLSC forum, and the 4 authors are not in competition.
I think the personal features of single roster are a pleasure for all.
Personally, thanks and congratulation Webber for your great work and also thanks and congratulation for Andrew and Jimmy.

(Y)

Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:18 am

please, a fusion/mix of the webberf1 roster and albys roster will be perfect

sorry my english :oops:

Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:31 am

Yo Webber: I'm reinstal my game, put your patc and other tto need to patch work and all is perfect, one of the best patches, grest work man.BTW please tell me if I can use your patch with Real shoes 3.5

Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:43 pm

can you fix odom' Jumpshot? it realy sucks...
and thanks for the patch release..it realy improves the whole look of the game.. :o

Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:14 pm

Great roster Webber!
I've been losin sleep since you and Kris came out with your latest patches.

just one random question.
Why is Kobe's overall rating so relatively low when compared to Lebron's. A -6pt differential is quite big. I was wondering if you could refer me to the source upon which you based your ratings of these 2 players upon. I'm curious as to why LBJ has higher 3pt rating than KB24 [even though KB avg's a higher 3pt% in less mpg] and what not, etc.

Also, I presented this issue to Kris in his thread, but as I'm not sure whether it's an AIACT issue or an issue with your roster, I'll post it here as well:

There aren't enough lay-ups in the game. Reverse layups on the other side of the rim [when attacking baseline] are just plain missing from the game. This somewhat neutralizes players who can't reverse jam their way home as it exposes their shots to be blocked. Players like Iverson, Redd, etc. are smaller G's who like to protect their shots by using the rim as a hurdle for the defender, thus the effectiveness of a reverse layup.

Other than that, from what I've seen so far, this is a great roster.

I'd also like to venture out and say that one should try experimenting with putting superstar shots close to the basket back in the game. Players don't shoot that one handed floater-like shot in the key all the time.

Also, could you try releasing a roster with the leaning/fading jumpers (with defender on you also back in the game). I've found that with those shots enabled, it allows for variations of certain GTMs. I assigned Elton Brands GTM to Kobe and after activing the GTM and then immediately pushin/wiggling the stick to a certain side, i can alter the type of fade away shot he actually shoots. I'm sure you probably already know all that but anyhow, GREAT ROSTER! KEEP IT UP!

Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:05 pm

I agree with R2G2...Kobe's rating is way too low.

Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:15 am

Mexeyz wrote:I agree with R2G2...Kobe's rating is way too low.


i dont think so
lets compare some of their stats,
LeBron: 29,8 PPG - 7,7 RPG - 7,5 APG - 0,487 FG% - 1,1 BPG
Kobe: 27,6 PPG - 5,8 RPG - 5,0 APG - 0,443 FG% - 0,5 BPG

maybe kobe deserve higher rating in his 3pt shooting
but look at the numbers of this season
no way to give kobe a better overal than lebron.

Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:24 am

Sanguango, umm...this may not be the right way to evaluate one's rating.
since Laker and Cavs have different players and playsets, it's similar you won't
give KG a lower rating in Celtics than in Wolves. :)

Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:29 am

Sanguango wrote:
Mexeyz wrote:I agree with R2G2...Kobe's rating is way too low.


i dont think so
lets compare some of their stats,
LeBron: 29,8 PPG - 7,7 RPG - 7,5 APG - 0,487 FG% - 1,1 BPG
Kobe: 27,6 PPG - 5,8 RPG - 5,0 APG - 0,443 FG% - 0,5 BPG

maybe kobe deserve higher rating in his 3pt shooting
but look at the numbers of this season
no way to give kobe a better overal than lebron.


Nobody said to give kobe higher rating then Lebron...we just said his rating is too low.

Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:32 am

harzej_24 wrote:and also dude your ratings for the player are to low....like kobe 70 % on 3?
92 over all? to low and the offensive awarness to low for the scorer player and for the big man to high on rebounds

can you fix that thing?

and can you make a batch file for the gtm and sigshots?
I use ratings machine to make ratings for each player. It makes ratings for everything based off the stats for this season so far. Which means all players get treated equally, and superstars don't get special extra points. Blame Kobe. :wink: And have a look at how good Fishers hotspots and shooting ratings are. :P

Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:41 am

Uhh ohh Kobe vs Lebron :lol:

Overall rating is just my opinion, but it's a meaningless number and doesn't affect gameplay just trades and things. I have 2 yahoo fantasy leagues and I have Lebron as my 1st round pick on one team and Kobe on the other. They are 20 player leagues. I update the lineups daily and so I see there stats after every game. I am happy I picked Lebron but sometimes wish I hadn't picked Kobe. That's what my opinion is based off, but everyone will have a different idea on overall ratings and we will all never agree.

For the ratings in the game it's not my opinion it's based off ratings machine to be fair. My opinion only matters for overall ratings. Opinions can be argued but numbers can't. :P

Here is Kobe's ratings -
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And Lebron's -
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Fatigue, primacy and OAW aren't used from ratings machine only the other ratings.

Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:59 am

R2G2, glad you liked the roster. The Kobe thing was talked about above. Everything else, I know what you mean especially the reverse layups. I want to have a look into the future about fixing it, right now I'm not sure if it's a dunk.act issue or a shotconditions.act issue. I have never editted dunk.act before. I would like some better reverse layups also. About leaners/fadeaways, the problem is with sigshots, with most of them if you have sigshot you can't have a leaner or fadeaway. So the only thing I could do was assign leaners or fadeaways to GTM for the players that lean or fadeaway alot. Calderon and Mo Williams have leaners for example, and Gay, Melo, JRich, Maggette etc have fadeaways as GTM.

A.I. 3, you must use realshoes 3.5 otherwise the shoes won't look right.

Albys
, (Y) I have been busy and haven't tried batch file on your roster. I know that you based it off NLSC, but if you created new players that NLSC doesn't have you might need to manually change the sigshots for those new players. I can PM you a text file if you want with each players name and sigshot number. If you have some new players that NLSC doesn't have it shouldn't be many players and maybe you could edit the batch file and re release it for people to use with your patch. It would probably only take 5 mins to edit.

Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:03 am

Here is release of Grizz practice court trying to copy next gen-

2 versions one with dark court (needs different lighting file which is included) and a lighter version (so you don't need to change lighting file all the time)..

This works also with 1 on 1.

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Link http://files.filefront.com/Grizzpracticecourtrar/;9446249;/fileinfo.html

Here is release of roster 1.2 -

-kris's gameplay act 1.32
-some small slider changes
-coaches pack included
-new chicago coach in sgsm folder and coaches.dbf,
-slight change on kobe sig shot, new sigshot for Eddy Curry and new ray allen gtm
-other little changes here and there with the roster
-fixed two more players that would cause crash
-give Iverson back freestyle scorer.
-Batch file included, to use sigshots for another roster. Recommend albys for playing national teams. You don't need to use batch file if you use my roster.
-fixed sigshots for allstars
-new lighting file a bit darker ambient light and shadows
-maek1.3 fatigue fix included as option, if you use 9-10 min quarters you might prefer mine. If you use 3,4, 5 6 7 8 11 12 etc etc then Maek's will be better. Especially reccomend Maek's if you use dynasty.

Thanks to everyone, it's a long list of people, and for lionld for the batch file. :!:

Link - http://files.filefront.com/WebberF1RosterV1+2rar/;9445769;/fileinfo.html
Last edited by WebberF1 on Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:47 am, edited 2 times in total.

Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:14 am

WebberF1 wrote: About leaners/fadeaways, the problem is with sigshots, with most of them if you have sigshot you can't have a leaner or fadeaway. So the only thing I could do was assign leaners or fadeaways to GTM for the players that lean or fadeaway alot. Calderon and Mo Williams have leaners for example, and Gay, Melo, JRich, Maggette etc have fadeaways as GTM.


Having a sigshot doesn't mean they can't do leaners or fadeways, that happens because you started modificating ILT's aiact, and there I made changes that make players with sigshots can't do fadeway or leaners, because as I explained before, I don't think is realistic having players with sigshots doing the same generic fadeway or leaner as others. Anyway it can be solved easily, if people want fadeways and leaner back for everybody, you only have to put leaner and fadeway entries in shotconditions.act before the sigshots entries.
Last edited by ignatus on Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:20 am, edited 1 time in total.

Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:18 am

Webber thanks for 1.2 update!

Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:54 am

thanks Webber for the roster and lionld for the batch file !
One question: as you did the 1x real shoe patch 3.5 made by CHNxiaoju, could you add his latest 4.0 and make them 1x too? Please
:mrgreen:

Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:06 am

ignatus wrote:
WebberF1 wrote: About leaners/fadeaways, the problem is with sigshots, with most of them if you have sigshot you can't have a leaner or fadeaway. So the only thing I could do was assign leaners or fadeaways to GTM for the players that lean or fadeaway alot. Calderon and Mo Williams have leaners for example, and Gay, Melo, JRich, Maggette etc have fadeaways as GTM.


Having a sigshot doesn't mean they can't do leaners or fadeways, that happens because you started modificating ILT's aiact, and there I made changes that make players with sigshots can't do fadeway or leaners, because as I explained before, I don't think is realistic having players with sigshots doing the same generic fadeway or leaner as others. Anyway it can be solved easily, if people want fadeways and leaner back for everybody, you only have to put leaner and fadeway entries in shotconditions.act before the sigshots entries.
I thought I saw JaoSming say that if you have sigshots you can't have leaners/fadeaways but I must of read wrong because I try what you say and you are right.

Thx ignatus.

One question, back in November you posted youtube video of unused GTM's by Gasol and Yao. There is other entries in eanames.txt, like artest and sheed. They weren't included in ILT1.0, were they going to be included in future version or is there a reason why it's not good to use them?

I was going to take a break patching for a bit but this is one thing I'd like to do before. If you plan to make another patch soon with unused GTM's I understand, but if not do you mind explaining or PM'ing how I can unlock these GTM's to be included in roster? Yao and Gasol really need the GTM.

Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:07 am

dreadd41 wrote:thanks Webber for the roster and lionld for the batch file !
One question: as you did the 1x real shoe patch 3.5 made by CHNxiaoju, could you add his latest 4.0 and make them 1x too? Please
:mrgreen:
Oh no there is version 4.0 now? :x

I will have a look and see how many shoes have been changed. :P

Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:51 am

WebberF1, ignatus has stopped patching for now.
so you won't see more new moves for ILT in recent days.

Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:55 am

Fair enough, but is there way he can share how he unlocked GTM's so others can use? He is only one that was smart enough to figure it out. :?

Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:31 am

please, anybody can upload in another site?
thanks

Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:35 am

Release

roster 1.21

-only change is fadeaways and leaners now possible, thx to ignatus

If you don't like this change, you can still download and use 1.2

link - http://rapidshare.com/files/84338587/WebberF1RosterV1_21.rar.html

realshoespatch 1x 4.0

link - http://rapidshare.com/files/84327284/1xrealshoespatch4.0.rar.html

Unless ignatus can help with unlock Gasol and Yao GTM's this might be my last patches for a while. It takes alot of time to make this stuff and I have other commitments. But it's been fun. (Y) And everyone has permission to use anything I've helped make, and take it further.

Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:36 am

could you make boston practice court, like that? :D

Overalls...wear em.

Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:48 am

Sanguango wrote:
Mexeyz wrote:I agree with R2G2...Kobe's rating is way too low.


i dont think so
lets compare some of their stats,
LeBron: 29,8 PPG - 7,7 RPG - 7,5 APG - 0,487 FG% - 1,1 BPG
Kobe: 27,6 PPG - 5,8 RPG - 5,0 APG - 0,443 FG% - 0,5 BPG

maybe kobe deserve higher rating in his 3pt shooting
but look at the numbers of this season
no way to give kobe a better overal than lebron.


I'm not saying give Kobe a better overall rating, but KB right now is in 1st place in MVP runnings, so i think the gap should be closer. I know LBJ is having a better season statistically, but right now KB presence on the LAL is more crucial now more than ever, because now LAL has expectations.

But yea, it's not just KB's overall that was too low. Dirk's overall rating was horrendous. I mean his 3pt was 56 for christ's sake! :shock: lol.

WebberF1 wrote:
harzej_24 wrote:and also dude your ratings for the player are to low....like kobe 70 % on 3?
92 over all? to low and the offensive awarness to low for the scorer player and for the big man to high on rebounds

can you fix that thing?

and can you make a batch file for the gtm and sigshots?
I use ratings machine to make ratings for each player. It makes ratings for everything based off the stats for this season so far. Which means all players get treated equally, and superstars don't get special extra points. Blame Kobe. :wink: And have a look at how good Fishers hotspots and shooting ratings are. :P


LOL. I do blame Kobe! for our success. lol.
and i have actually taken a look at those hotspots, as i am an avid Showtime, purple-&-gold, Nick van Exel #9 for president, Los Angeles Laker fan. And I must say, Webber1 good sir, you are doing one helluva job.

As far as using ratings machine, i presumed as much. However, i would take some caution with it at times, as sometimes it skews ratings, like Dirk's 3pt rating. There's no way LBJ's 3pt rating should be higher than Nowitzki's. I mean i know the former MVP was cold earlier this season but good god man. have some mercy. lol

As far as sigshots, man...i can feel my brain do a little jig/happy dance (ala mark madsen/ronnie turiaf) in my head every time i discover a new one. I just recently had SEA Kevin Durant roll off a screen and bury a 3 on me to cap a 9-0 run...and i cheered! :oops: lol. It was the 1st time i saw it and wow. Teams have personality now. It's really a joy to see all this.

But yea, i'm eager to test out ur new version. i'll stop typing and get on that now. :D
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