NBA live 08 PC

Specs haven't been released yet but I would say they won't be much higher than last year.

I hate consols, and I still play Live 08 on PC. So I'm waitting for Live 08 on PC, and I hope they fix the gameplay little bit.

Xbox360 version looks really nice, I hope that PC version will look the same.

http://www.gamespot.com/video/939617/61 ... age-demo-1

Maybe EA will suprised us :]

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Andrew said:

"NBA LIVE 08 FOR PC is NOT Next gen!"

Ea sucks.. why not Next Gen

because most people dont have the right specs to run next gen on their pc.

Ea sucks.. why not Next Gen

Because as we've discussed at length earlier in this thread, the PC version sadly is not a priority. It is the smallest corner of the market in terms of NBA Live sales and as such does not demand the most attention. Perhaps that will change when the PS2 is phased out, though considering the Wii version isn't the same as the Xbox 360/PS3 version perhaps that engine will still be used for the PC (albeit without the Wii-mote stuff).

Andrew, if the PC is the less profitable corner of the market, why do they keep making Live available for PC? Tradition or do they still have some profits that makes it worth it?

The fanbase is there, there's no competition and there's still revenue to be made, so I would suggest there's sufficient demand to continue making the PC version. The console market is simply bigger so it is the focus these days.

The fanbase is there, there's no competition and there's still revenue to be made, so I would suggest there's sufficient demand to continue making the PC version. The console market is simply bigger so it is the focus these days.

These are the reasons 2K Sports should publish the NBA 2K series for PC. There is no competition, they could easily surpass Live in sales. But until then.. I guess we will settle with the old-gen live 08.

I agree. EA monopoly is not good for the PC-Version of NBA Live.

Look for example FIFA. When Pro Evolution (a.k.a. Winning Eleven) come into games market, FIFA made a lot of progress.

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Personally, i don't care about NextGen graphics. I want NBA live 08 for PC to be a real basketball simulation with a better gameplay and without the problems of the past.

If i was EA developer i would work to the same nba live 07 game solving previous years issues and bugs.

For example NA Live 08 based on 07 without guard domination, rebounds problems, players and ball gravity problems, 3point shots counting 2p and vice versa, substitutions problems, freestyle superstar moves problems and the bad keyboard control, 08 could be a great game.

Andrew, if the PC is the less profitable corner of the market, why do they keep making Live available for PC? Tradition or do they still have some profits that makes it worth it?

It's a port, and ports are where serious money is made. They're making the game for PS2 right? Then they pay two or three guys a years salary to port it to PC. And they sell half a million copies on the PC for $40 a pop. So their expense to make the PC version is probably $150,000 or so, and they bring in say $20 million. (Remember on the PC, there is no license fee, EA gets almost all the money from a sale back.)

*All figures made up, but the point is there...

having a live is better then not

The PC version is not Next Gen, as confirmed by the guys at the NBA Live 08 community day.

Another disappointed and sad year for PC Gamers

Being that they start development live 09 soon if not immediately after live 08 I think we'd better start getting our point across that live 09 being current gen on pc will not be acceptable. I know 08 hasn't even come out yet but disappointment or not theres a limit on what they can do on current gen so maybe around the time 08 comes out we can get a petition or something? I know everyones been bugging you Andrew but I'd like you to let the developers know how strongly we feel about this as or shortly after 08 is released.

Ok, on a slightly less graphically-inclined note, Andrew; have you heard back on what features will survive the transition to the current-gen set? Are we to keep using the freestyle stick or is the new quick-hit stick going to make it to PC? How about hot spots; will those make it? I know that the Xbox 360 version of Madden has many more ratings for it's players then the current-gen version, so is that the case with Live? Will we not get the new play features either? I'll be dissapointed if we don't get any of the gameplay improvements. Here's what it'd take to make me a happy camper (and get it a good rating on e-AAGH.net);

1. Tighter control
2. Better balance
3. The hot-spot and quick-hit stick features
4. Better controller recognition (I dislike my Xbox 360 controller having issues with Live, forcing me back to my Rumblepad 2)
5. The return of the 'real' EA Store ('07's version was just about useless, with almost nothing worth spending points on).
6. Finally, some support for once. Patches, post-release updates, that sort of thing.

Like everyone, I'd love next-gen graphics, but I'm resigned to the fact that last-gen (it's no longer current-gen, is it?) is going to be our fate. In that light, I'd like to add a personal amendment to the list above: EA effectively removed the facial animations after Live '05 on PC, so please bring them back! It makes for disturbing replays and pics when the players are all expressionless. F'r crying out loud, it was possible from Live '99 to '05, so what's the deal? '05 is just about the same, graphics-wise as '07, so why the lack of emotion?

That's all for now. I'll shut up for a while.

"Like everyone, I'd love next-gen graphics, but I'm resigned to the fact that last-gen (it's no longer current-gen, is it?) is going to be our fate."

So now the latest computer hardware isn't even current-gen. It's "last gen," while year old hardware and technology is next-gen. All the billions being spent by Intel and AMD and nVidia etc. to develop new hardware over the course of a year is for nothing, they've devolved from current-gen to last-gen. Hardware developed a year ago is better.

Wow.

Nooo.... what I was referring to was the port of a PS2-quality game, which would be last-gen, console-wise. The PS2 is last-gen. PC's are ever evolving, so I find it hard to qualify them in generations. I meant no dig into PC hardware, especially since I'd love to have a top-of-the-line gaming PC more then any of the consoles. Please don't misconstrue my words.

Ok, on a slightly less graphically-inclined note, Andrew; have you heard back on what features will survive the transition to the current-gen set? Are we to keep using the freestyle stick or is the new quick-hit stick going to make it to PC? How about hot spots; will those make it? I know that the Xbox 360 version of Madden has many more ratings for it's players then the current-gen version, so is that the case with Live? Will we not get the new play features either? I'll be dissapointed if we don't get any of the gameplay improvements. Here's what it'd take to make me a happy camper (and get it a good rating on e-AAGH.net);

No info on the PC version as yet. As soon as I have something I'll be sure to post it.

The fanbase is there, there's no competition and there's still revenue to be made, so I would suggest there's sufficient demand to continue making the PC version. The console market is simply bigger so it is the focus these days.

So they want our money and because there's no competition they know we'll buy it. (This is the NBA Live forums after all.) But they don't actually care enough about us to give us something of value. Even a typical port of the X360 version would be an upgrade. TBH, I didn't expect any more of EA Sports division. Screw 'em.

Well, as I said the console market is the focus because the sales figures simply don't favour the PC market. It's not really a case of "Screw the PC players"; it wouldn't be good business sense to focus on a small corner of the market and at some point that factors into the whole development process. It's unfortunate for us, though.

But they'll still charge full price.

Well, yes. Just because the PC market isn't the focus doesn't mean the PC version will be available at a discounted price. It doesn't change the production costs for the Current Gen version or the recommended retail price.

Just and FYI; EA recently released a blog with information on Madden '08 for the PC (http://www.easports.com/maddennfl/blogs.jsp). It's about a month from Madden's release, so we could be looking at the same time frame for PC info on Live. That would mean that we'd get the info we want around, what, late August or early September? Patience will be required, I suppose. Not that there's likely to be any surprises, but it'd still be nice to have an official word on what made it and what didn't.

BTW, I love the line "... still closer to the Current Gen version..." in the Madden blog I linked. Somehow that seems somewhat, I dunno, indirect. Just say you ported the 6th gen version and get on with it. lol It's ok, I think allot of people (myself included) have gotten past our Next Gen Obsession phase.

Live, of course, has the advantage over Madden with this bustling modding community. I think - and this is me talking out of lack of sleep, I guess - that the community has eked out more from the current gen version that EA would have expected. I gave Live '07 a paltry 6.5 rating on e-AAGH.net when it came out, but I'd rate it differently if I were to factor in the great work the modders have done with it. I've gone from loathing '07 to enjoying it. I hope the modding community takes advantage of another year of similar tech to really shine in '08.

I have nothing but respect for the modders of this community. There work has retained my loyalty to the EA mess theyve been cleaning up for the last 3 years IMO. The graphics to me are service-able, and to be honest its better this way if it can keep the lag down on online play.

Andrew I applaud your diplomatic stance through this whole thing, you have to play to the ears of two audiences, and being a mediator has and never will be an easy thing.

Those of you complaining about next gen, STFU, buy a system, or make/port the game yourself. Most of you are modding anyway so you are playing a game that is of even better polish (visually, at least) than the XBOX version. We even got to fix our substitution problem... Sorry PS2.

My only concern, and to me is an absolute deal breaker, is whether any of the new gameplay features make it into the game. Visually I can live with what we have now, I have trust that my sgsm folder will be chock full of nifty updates again . But if they dont see fit to add any of the new gameplay features into the game, then to me 08 is not 08, it is 07 released in the state that it should have been a year ago. I will not, EVER again, pay for an unfinished product from this studio. Andrew like I said before i respect your position on this, i understand the dilemma, but there are things that cant be avoided, and then there are things that are flat out unacceptable.

The UI was horrible when first implemented, now its 5 years later with no change? Unacceptable. Lack of foresight to include the 360 controller, after its been supported on basically every other game released by your publisher over the last 12 months? Unacceptable.A patch needed so players would be shown properly and substitute correctly? A bug that allows point guards (Gods, if you will) immunity to the precepts of team basketball in a basketball simulation? The rebounding bug? The balls general ignorance to the laws of physics and/or gravity? All you guessed it, unacceptable.

If they are fixing last years problems, COMPLETELY, with the addition on the new stick controls, then fine, they will get my business. The additional ratings need to be added, but I can live without them as we still make do as it is. I dont even care about the hotspots, any serious player has an idea of that already. But the new stick and post controls add a totally new feel to the game and as such, should be included with every version of the game, no matter its graphical fidelity.

I will not be fed a sh*t sandwich and have someone convince me that its sloppy joe. They have one more chance with me. I swear if they drop the ball with this one I'm done with the franchise. This is someone who owns an SNES, PC, and XBOX and a 360 and has bought each game for each system each year as long as they have been available. (Yes, I'm old.) But as someone who has seen this series' glory days, I just take take it anymore.

edit - wow that was long. Sorry guys I was venting...