Substitution Fix 1.4 RIP papa jack 1983-2008

by **fliplaurel** on Fri Jun 13, 2008 10:37 am

wohoo! Prayers answered! :mrgreen:

Thanks pre! Will try this asap.

by **Maek** on Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:43 pm

fliplaurel wrote:wohoo! Prayers answered!

Thanks pre! Will try this asap.

Give me a feedback my bro. Hope it suits ur needs. Sry for this i'm using my hsdpa cp with my reply. Haha. Txt n to!

by **GuCcI08** on Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:02 am

wat setting should i put if i play game speed at 33, 12 or 9 min.

by **Maek** on Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:09 pm

GuCcI08 wrote:wat setting should i put if i play game speed at 33, 12 or 9 min.

Menu option :
Fatigue effect = LOW

In-gameplay option :
Substitution frequency = 30 - 40

That would be less substitution, because you're players will not easily get tired and at the same time, it would take them much fatigue in order to be subbed-out.

Hope this helps! Thanks though!

I almost forgot I had a thread like this. Hehe. . .

by **GuCcI08** on Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:48 pm

Maek wrote:
GuCcI08 wrote:wat setting should i put if i play game speed at 33, 12 or 9 min.

Menu option :
Fatigue effect = LOW

In-gameplay option :
Substitution frequency = 30 - 40

That would be less substitution, because you're players will not easily get tired and at the same time, it would take them much fatigue in order to be subbed-out.

Hope this helps! Thanks though!

I almost forgot I had a thread like this. Hehe. . .

is this setting for 9 and 12 min? cuz i thought that 9 min u would use fatigue effect - normal. so 12 min u use 40 for sub and 9 u would use 30 for sub? anyways im juz gonna try 50 for sub and low fatigue effect on 12 min. im playin 12 min juz for realism.

by **Skills** on Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:05 pm

Thanks for this Maek. Although, will it help my following problem?
CPU vs. CPU games = Starters playing 40+ minutes, only using 3 different subs.

by **Maek** on Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:53 pm

@ GuCcI08

For 9 mins :
Fatigue effect = normal
Substitution frequency = 50

Fo 12 mins :
Fatigue effect = low
Substitution frequency = 30-40

@ Skillmatic
How many minutes per quarter?
Just follow the above mentioned guide if same mins.
It's more realistic for CPU vs CPU because the USER-timeout-autosubstition bug will be neglected. Instead if the CPU1 calls timeout then he will get some players be subbed and if CPU2 calls another timeout after sometime then another set of substitution.

Thanks! 8-)

by **Skills** on Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:05 am

Well, now it's better than before. The CPU uses almost all of it's bench players, but most of them play only between 1-10 minutes, while starters still play 30-40 minutes. Before starters wouldn't even play 30+ minutes. Even when I have the CPU sub frequency sliders at 100.

by **Maek** on Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:54 am

Skillmatic wrote:Well, now it's better than before. The CPU uses almost all of it's bench players, but most of them play only between 1-10 minutes, while starters still play 30-40 minutes. Before starters wouldn't even play 30+ minutes. Even when I have the CPU sub frequency sliders at 100.

What info from my advice did the trick?
Fatigue settings I guess.

by **ibelieve** on Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:53 am

is there a fix for the headshape bug too??

by **Maek** on Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:13 pm

[P3teR L]uStiG wrote:is there a fix for the headshape bug too??

I don't get it mate. This thread is for substitution fix.
Try searching your answer on the patching help section.

by **T-Time3** on Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:45 pm

wow, v 1.4 is Fantastic..

by **Maek** on Fri Jul 25, 2008 4:03 pm

T-Time3 wrote:wow, v 1.4 is Fantastic..

Thanks mate!

Here's my final bug issues in the substitution fix [non-fixable]:
1. USER time-out call doesn't trigger auto-substitution. [You have to wait for the CPU to call time-out and trigger the auto-substitution for both teams.]

2. At the start of the 4th, Starters are the in the starting line-up instead of the previous end of 3rd quarter line-up. Which leads to substitution failure, because my fix is based on the starters starts in the 1st quarter until late 1st quarter [sometimes Superstars are dont get subbed until early 2nd quarter] then they are back in the final minutes of 2nd quarter.

[suggest that you call time-out to refresh the fatigue of each player if you don't want them get subbed just like in the 4th quarter.]

Which makes the Fatigue fix 1.4 98% perfect.

Thanks!

by **deihatein** on Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:28 am

Ugh, where is the auto-substition?

by **Angelo** on Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:57 pm

Thanks for the substitution fix bro Maek (Y)

by **Maek** on Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:43 pm

dei. wrote:Ugh, where is the auto-substition?

Turn it on in your game.

Check out the 1st page for the substitution fix [batch files].

by **Maek** on Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:26 am

RIP papa jack!

A great loss from NLSC.

Thanks for all the patches/insight you've given us.

Damn! :cry:

by **shamanis** on Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:17 am

yea thats sad... :cry:

by **andrepatorres** on Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:28 pm

what can i do for my 3 minutes dynasty game Maek??

the cpu vs. cpu games have just 1 or 2 substitution and i put the fatigue effect HIGH and substitution frequency 100 both for cpu and player.

What can i do? i play 3 minutes game..

by **andrepatorres** on Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:31 pm

and my game is dynasty mode

by **andrepatorres** on Sat Aug 09, 2008 2:37 pm

all games are like this.. the mine and cpu vc cpu simulated games..

by **Angelo** on Sat Aug 09, 2008 3:05 pm

Just play a minimum of 5 minutes per quarter cuz you cannot get the full potential of the patch of Maek when you are just playing 3 minutes per quarter

by **deihatein** on Sat Aug 09, 2008 4:25 pm

Maek if I turn-on my auto-sub will my team auto sub?

by **andrepatorres** on Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:02 am

Kris wrote:Just play a minimum of 5 minutes per quarter cuz you cannot get the full potential of the patch of Maek when you are just playing 3 minutes per quarter

I will try it my friend...

But tell me how i need to put the settings??

substitution frequency 100, fatigue HIGH???

how?

by **Maek** on Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:18 am

andrepatorres wrote:
Kris wrote:Just play a minimum of 5 minutes per quarter cuz you cannot get the full potential of the patch of Maek when you are just playing 3 minutes per quarter

I will try it my friend...

But tell me how i need to put the settings??

substitution frequency 100, fatigue HIGH???

how?

I think 3min/qtr is too low. The fatigue will not take effect in that scenario.
Try using this :

http://www.speedyshare.com/126181203.html

Special scenario fatigue fix.

Goodluck!

Substitution Fix 1.4 RIP papa jack 1983-2008

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