NBA live 2008

[mrtistrm]

Hello there, fellow NBA live-rs,

Like most of us, I am one of the folks who is just not very happy with NBA live 2008. It seems to me that, EA has lost their "vision" on dictating where the direction of the game should be going. I remember, when NBA live first first came out, it was the first where we NBA gamers had the first game that emulates the experience on being a "NBA player". We are able to decide, on the destiny on leading ur favourite team to championship. We decide which player we want to suceed, we will our favourite players to accumulate stats that is impossible to attain in the reality. Yeah, I remember in NBA live 98 we often had the game score ends at 198- 202 but it the game is fun. Hell, the game score sure is arcade-alike, but its a game we enjoy, for its fun. Whether the game play fits the reality on the real game or not, it does not matter. Because the first NBA live selling point is just fun, run and gun offence.

After the first NBA live, the series are slowly going to the direction on being "realistic". It is what the consumer wanted, and I say its heading to the right direction. We become more critical on NBA as we begin to scrutinize on the game itself, to see which part of the game is still "arcadish". I must say, NBA live has been heading towards the right direction until NBA 2005, which after that the game apparently begin to go downhill and, lost its direction where it is suppose to be heading.



NBA 2006, lasted on my PC for just; two hours. The game is totally unplayable, as I can just bull my way around with just using a scrub and doing all those acrobatic "superstar" moves. EA apparently thinking that we, the consumer would enjoy a more "street fighter combo" moves rather on playing a "realistic" basketball. EA is thinking, with us going back to our first bread and butter, like how NBA live first came out; the consumer is going to enjoy all these acrobatic arcadish. Well, they thought wrong. I don't know how many of you folks enjoy NBA 2006 which it completely turn a lot of us off. The game is a arcadish, no sense of realism. And better yet, bugs are appearing in the game (like the buttons assignment issue). It is a product that was badly made, no quality control and not tested. A lot of us is shocked, dissapointed. And a lot of us, me included; felt being taken for granted as EA seems to think that they have build up a NBA live hard-core fan base, and think that these hard core fan base will support them no matter how crappy their product is. They think whatever they come out we, the nba gamers will definitely buy it without complain. Well, they thought wrong.

I will not go into NBA live 2007. Everybody here already know this is the worst ever NBA live ever made. It is the last straw, and many of us cannot believe EA could made two consecutive bad games in a roll. It is not just a bad game they have made, there is a also false advertising (ESPN thingy), taking us NBA live gamers a joyride, lure us believing in the next-gen graphics, the point guard bug and lots more.

A lot of us really look forward to NBA 2008 because we don't possibly think that 2008 can sink any lower. We thought they will really, this time come out with a quality game. I believe a lot of us were pretty exited because with all those promises, the producer blogs, the pre-view of the game and the invitation to fellow gamers to test out the game. Its all positives, positives and positives. But hell, how naive we were. What we didnt realise is that the producers only showed us the positives on the game and hide away the ugly sides of the game. I remember watching Youtube on EA inviting gamers to try out 2008, with the gamers expressing nothing but positives on the game. The gamers comment on the great game play, the graphics, the greatness on the game. With the producers and the game programmers standing behind them as the gamers played the game, my faith in EA was restore as I thought they finally show us the consumer respect on making this game right. I looked forward so much to 2008 I visit my local PC shop everyday. Pestering the clerks like kids bugging their parents "are we there yet? are we there yet?
when I know fully well NBA release date is late October. I guess pester them makes me feel EA will perhaps change their mind on the release date and maybe, maybe will release the game earlier. Such a naive thought.

But I did not realise I was being more naive when I expected that EA will come out with a quality product this time. I was wrong.

EA NBA live 2008, is no different with EA NBA live 2007.

EA, have amazingly three-peat itself in making three years of crap.

I really don't want to stay on in NBA live 2005 forever. There are many features that I want to try out in 2006 and 2007, and also 2008. But the game is so horrible I am compel to stay in 2005.

Sigh.

Andrew and a few fellow folks and all, are being optimistic... showing us the good points and all. But being a customer, I refuse to be optimistic. When I pay you, EA, my hard-earn money, I demand that I buy a quality product. I need not feel sorry for you because of your incapability. Know this, I do not have a choice in choosing NBA 2K because I am a PC gamer. So dont be telling me to switch to NBA 2K because I dont have a choice. Now I pretty much think I have a right to complain, because if its crap ur selling me, I earn the right to complain. With ur misleadng advertisements, ur misleading promotions, ur misleading next-gen graphics i thought u are going to implement in PC, I was again, taken for granted and fooled. My very dear EA, let me tell you this,

I am not stupid, you know. don't be selling me crap and tell me its a quality product you made.

[Hoozah]

You certainly have a right to complain, but you also had the right to NOT buy the game just as well. There are many sites that had many early reviews of LIVE 08 PC and many of those legitimate reviews were pretty discouraging.

You should have waited / read / researched many of those complaints of LIVE 08 PC and then formed your own valid opinion if it was worth the purchase or not.

Your post sounds like you were forced to buy LIVE PC, and then, when it doesn't live up to your expectation(s), you feel like you've been robbed. You weren't robbed - you're expectations of the game were just higher than EA standards.

Another critical element that needs to be observed is that when you AGREE to the EULA right before installing, you are literally acknowledging that certain features of the game or gameplay can or /will be changed at EA's discretion. In short - you're obiding by the terms EA.

The last time I clicked DISAGREE with the EULA was with another PC game that required a copy-protection program be installed in my windows registry. I refused. I called up Sierra and they emailed me a form to fill out. I took that form back to BestBuy and they refunded me my money.

If you're unhappy with the game - call or write EA and have them honor their 30 day return policy. You have options, so utilize them.

The old adage of Caveat Preemtor or 'Buyer Beware' has been around since the breaking of dawn. History has shown and proven that the LIVE series for the PC market is on the low priority. So why would anyone think 08 would be any different?

You can't blame other people for your indulgence in guying a product. It's the same way two people will never have the same experience watching the same movie. Use your skills as a consumer and fight back as only a consumer can: with your hard earned dollars.

As far as being misguided by the next-gen screenshots, remember: If it's too good to be true...it probably isn't.

[fjccommish]

The producers of Live 08 don't understand that when people play video games, people want to be in control.

In Live 08 there are times when animations take over control. You want to get your PG back on defense, but he's pulled back into the opposing PG running the floor, only to be beaten to the basket. But you wanted to get back on defense and stop his drive.

You're playing the C, and want to get down into the paint. But an animation stops you and throws you back towards the 3 PT line.

NBA Live 08 too often takes control out of the player's hands.

[jimpworld]

Hoozah, I think mrtistrm and any person who have purchased NBA live 2008 has a right to voice out his/her opinion, this is a free country after all. And the creators of NBA live if wise enough should take note of such reactions of not being satisfied with their game.

It is true that nobody was forced into buying their game, and everybody has a choice of choosing the game they want to play. But I think that one of the objectives of this forums is to create a venue for people to voice out their opinions about the game. This forum is also a venue for people who plans on buying an nba game to reak comments from people who have already purchased the game, and its only fair that they read all the reactions of NBA live users, may it be possitive or negative. If you feel that this game was unjustly criticized by others, then post any possitive aspects you liked about this game, but I feel it would be unfair to mrtistrm or anyone who posted negative feedbacks to get criticized here.

I have been playing NBA live since 2004, and I have been very satisfied with the game untill now. The gameplay is ok, controls easy to learn, but the rosters are pretty messed up, with rookies missing from their respective teams and ratings going haywire.

EA sports has been around for a very long time and it would be wise to heed peoples call for improvements else they loose more of the market share that they have.

[Hoozah]

Jimp -

I whole heartly agree that any / every individual here can voice their opinion(s) on the game. I don't think I ever posted anything against it.

My initial post was to create another viable option that mrtistrm could have used, like returning the game to EA for a refund, or quite simply - not buying another version of LIVE for the PC.

This years versions is far from perfect, but we all bought the game despites our gut feelings to wait it out. Somehow, somewhere deep inside, we all probably thought this version would somehow be 'different'.

My post was not meant to criticize or to offend anyone, it was meant to give cause to the consumer to research their purchases before they actually go out and buy it.

Mrtistrm bought the game for $40.00 and now he's disappointed with it. Let that be one of life's $40.00 experiences. Perhaps next time, he'll lean a little bit more to the side of caution.

[Andrew]

Andrew and a few fellow folks and all, are being optimistic...

Just to clarify my position, my impressions of the game are certainly not completely positive, I am however remaining optimistic about our chances of getting a fix at which point I'd re-evaluate the game. I feel there are some positives in NBA Live 08 - both versions - but then there's a lot of new issues that have popped up, mostly in the PC version in my opinion, that are drawing my ire (and pretty much everyone else in the community as well).

It is true that nobody was forced into buying their game, and everybody has a choice of choosing the game they want to play. But I think that one of the objectives of this forums is to create a venue for people to voice out their opinions about the game. This forum is also a venue for people who plans on buying an nba game to reak comments from people who have already purchased the game, and its only fair that they read all the reactions of NBA live users, may it be possitive or negative. If you feel that this game was unjustly criticized by others, then post any possitive aspects you liked about this game, but I feel it would be unfair to mrtistrm or anyone who posted negative feedbacks to get criticized here.

Absolutely, which is why I'm doing the bug list and sending feedback directly to EA Sports; after all, we have nothing to lose by providing them with that information and asking that they develop a fix for those issues. It's important we weed out minor issues that aren't really bugs per se (incorrect jersey numbers, for example) and focus on areas where the game isn't working as it should. At the same time, I think it's important we say what we do like when we're reviewing the game or doing the Wishlists given the amount of things that have disappeared the last few years. It's probably in our best interests to say we want Player Lock and the traditional Reorder Rosters function in Dynasty Mode.

[jimpworld]

Hoozah, thank you for clarifying things, and my appologies if I have reacted..rather...defensively.

Andrew, its for admins like you that what makes every comment/complaint here worthwhile, knowing that all posts are noted and communicated to the EAsports.