REAL NBA HOTSPOTS

[jonthefon]

Didn't they say players will now have about fourteen different FG ratings based on every spot on the floor?

So Bruce Bowen would have an increased 3-point FG rating at one spot and lower FG rating at a cold spot?

[Andrew]

I believe that's how it works, yes.

[shobe81]

So Bruce Bowen has a face in his hand while he is at his favorite corner and still makes the 3?

No shit. I doubt anyone could make a shot with a face in their hand. The nose at least would totally mess up your release.

I know that smartass! But I was just merely asking a QUESTION? A rhetorical type of question that is!

And if you doubt "anyone could make a shot with a face in their hand," then I suppose you don't watch much basketball. Players such as Kobe, T-mac are known for making shots in with a hand in their face so you cannot use that "anyone" term! Just letting you know

[shobe81]

I believe that's how it works, yes.

Yep thats how it should work and it's good EA is doing that, Bowen is a good shooter from corner 3's but his shooting abilities from mid range and other spots are seldom seen.

[Devin112]

Yea but guys, I just don't like the idea of hotspots, I mean EA please make a SIM type basketball game, why should we be allowed to see the hotspots during the game? I mean colors appearing on courts just looks like a arcade Jam type of game. Fine if you want to include it so we can see who shoots well before the game but not when we're on the court.

Isn't the idea "figuring out" where your hotspot is rather than giving the user complete ideas where exactly the hotspots are! This just seems like a stupid idea to me, and I'm surprised a lot of you aren't agreeing.

It's not on their automatically bro, u need to push the button. If you don't want to know, but press it.

Hotspots IS SIM. It's true in reality so I'm looking forward to seeing it in the game. Lots of LIVE players will play much more like their real life counterparts.

[shobe81]

Yea but guys, I just don't like the idea of hotspots, I mean EA please make a SIM type basketball game, why should we be allowed to see the hotspots during the game? I mean colors appearing on courts just looks like a arcade Jam type of game. Fine if you want to include it so we can see who shoots well before the game but not when we're on the court.

Isn't the idea "figuring out" where your hotspot is rather than giving the user complete ideas where exactly the hotspots are! This just seems like a stupid idea to me, and I'm surprised a lot of you aren't agreeing.

It's not on their automatically bro, u need to push the button. If you don't want to know, but press it.

Hotspots IS SIM. It's true in reality so I'm looking forward to seeing it in the game. Lots of LIVE players will play much more like their real life counterparts.

No I like the idea "now" for sure, I just don't like it if it will be implemented online because everyone will be using it to see where the players such as Kobe or T-mac are hot shooting wise from and that just gets the game turning into stupid shoot-outs where people cannot miss. I just don't think they should allow this feature online.

[will658761]

No I like the idea "now" for sure, I just don't like it if it will be implemented online because everyone will be using it to see where the players such as Kobe or T-mac are hot shooting wise from and that just gets the game turning into stupid shoot-outs where people cannot miss. I just don't think they should allow this feature online.

It is a percentage not an automatic score

[TheMC5]

So Bruce Bowen has a face in his hand while he is at his favorite corner and still makes the 3?

Nobody else noticed that, eh?

I just thought the idea of having a face in one's hand was funny. Like, Bruce Bowen's hands have faces in them.

[will658761]

So Bruce Bowen has a face in his hand while he is at his favorite corner and still makes the 3?

Nobody else noticed that, eh?

I just thought the idea of having a face in one's hand was funny. Like, Bruce Bowen's hands have faces in them.

lol just noticed that

[nba_baller]

me too

[shobe81]

So Bruce Bowen has a face in his hand while he is at his favorite corner and still makes the 3?

Nobody else noticed that, eh?

I just thought the idea of having a face in one's hand was funny. Like, Bruce Bowen's hands have faces in them.

lol just noticed that

haha opps I just noticed that as well, I give props to TheMC for catching that one.

Well at least we know what context I was "trying" to put it in even though I used it backwards.

Let me rephrase that please: "A hand in his face" hows that?

[Andrew]

No I like the idea "now" for sure, I just don't like it if it will be implemented online because everyone will be using it to see where the players such as Kobe or T-mac are hot shooting wise from and that just gets the game turning into stupid shoot-outs where people cannot miss. I just don't think they should allow this feature online.

It shouldn't do that though since shooting from a player's hot spot isn't a guaranteed score. If you don't give the shooters any room and challenge the shots you shouldn't get burned time after time even if your opponent is shooting from a hot spot. They still need to time the release properly and effectively elude you or create space to put up the best possible attempt.

Something that was discussed at the Community Day (I think Pasta might have brought it up) is that the hot spots overlay can in a way disadvantage the offensive player in two player matchups (online or otherwise), since it will be obvious as soon as the overlay comes up that your opponent is looking to run to his hot spot, basically letting you know that it's a good time to get in the player's face or double team him because a jumper is coming soon. Anyone who wants to properly utilise the hot spots in multiplayer is really going to have to know their players if they want to stay a step ahead of their opponent.

[Burner]

come on Guys... this hotspots are bullshit...

I am a fan of nbalive since 95 and i had never the chance to look where my current players hotspots are.. and still had very much fun without it..

In my opinion its the challenge to find the right hotspot at the right time.. not to get always the right info.. by color.

iam not looking forward to that time when i compete against my little brother who is not a big nba fan.. and he always has a chance against me.. because he has the info by the hotspots..

For what reason EA implements this feature to the game.. ??for the inexperienced user..??? I don`t know..

If this feature would have been added to a mini game.. or practice mode it would be really nice.. but in game.. its just bad.. and very arcade-ish

[Sauru]

i kinda wish they would not allow the hot spots to be displayed during the game but they could be viewable anytime during practice. would make it more realistic to me to have to remember where your players are hot or not from.

also, the nba live game has never given enough enough while making trades. i know andrew cant talk about dynasty yet but when he can i hope he tells us that we can see all the info there is to know before making a trade. i dont just want to see salary and overall rating. i want to see how many years he has left, i wanna see if he already has a connection with anyone on my team, does he hate someone on my team? i also want to see his hotspots before picking him up.

[Andrew]

come on Guys... this hotspots are bullshit...

I am a fan of nbalive since 95 and i had never the chance to look where my current players hotspots are.. and still had very much fun without it..

In my opinion its the challenge to find the right hotspot at the right time.. not to get always the right info.. by color.

iam not looking forward to that time when i compete against my little brother who is not a big nba fan.. and he always has a chance against me.. because he has the info by the hotspots..

For what reason EA implements this feature to the game.. ??for the inexperienced user..??? I don`t know..

If this feature would have been added to a mini game.. or practice mode it would be really nice.. but in game.. its just bad.. and very arcade-ish

The reason they've implemented it is that the concept of players being better from certain areas of the floor has been expanded upon in the ratings and game engine based on real NBA data. For those who wish to bring up the overlay to learn about their players, they can. Those who wish to find out on their owns are free to not utilise the overlay.

It's been emphasised a few times that the Hot Spots are not some arcade-like feature that allows a player to hit anything from a designated hot zone. Having played the game, I can tell you that it's certainly not an automatic basket once you position your player in a hot zone. That certainly would be arcadeish if you could do that but fortunately that's not the case.

If you don't want to utilise the Hot Spots you'll probably get by fine without it. As I said, you don't even need to ever bring up the overlay if you don't want to, it's simply there to provide data for those who want it. I was skeptical of it too but it doesn't look like it's going to dominate the game and for those players such as yourself who wish to find out a player's hot spots by themselves can still do so.

[Devin112]

I think they way they're going to implement it is as follows-

if a guys's 3 point rating is 70, then he'll utilize that(70) full potential there and shot a lot colder in his cold spots.

[Andrew]

As far as I'm aware it will be based on the expanded ratings that the Next Gen version utilises.

[kingtrobe807]

heres my idea on hotspots.....i think its a great idea by EA....but i would have 2x the amount of shooting ratings for each player since adding these new feature....Ratings such as FGL FGM FGR....with the (L) (M) (R) being left-middle-right for the different areas be "hotter" then others...same goes with 3PTL-3PTM-3PTR..... even INL-INM-INR....for inside scoring....

[OldFoolStyle]

heres my idea on hotspots.....i think its a great idea by EA....but i would have 2x the amount of shooting ratings for each player since adding these new feature....Ratings such as FGL FGM FGR....with the (L) (M) (R) being left-middle-right for the different areas be "hotter" then others...same goes with 3PTL-3PTM-3PTR..... even INL-INM-INR....for inside scoring....

My understanding from reading the previews, developer blogs, etc, is thats pretty close to what their doing.
The 360 and PS3 versions already seperate scoring into seperate ratings for attempts and accuracy. This year the accuracy is expanded to include seperate ratings for each of the 15 hotspots.

[Metsis]

When talking about hot spots and places where you score more from... One factor is of course the percentage you shoot at. But that is almost less of a factor than the actual quantity thing that makes it a hot spot.

Duncan shot 1 of 1 from down town, that hardly makes it a hot spot. Rather a lucky spot...

This whole hot spot thing is or rather should be based on quantity. The areas a person shoots most of are the areas they are most comfortable with. Duncan doing the bank shots from close range. T-Mac doing the fadeaway jumper from long range or Bowen shooting from the corner. These spots are hot since the players shoot more from them than from other areas...

And again, EA can screw this up, but I'm afraid it will be the other way around... Shooting from the hot spots is going to be ok, but what I am afraid of is the fact that shooting from the cold spots could be next to impossible! So you need to seek out those hot spots to score at all, that would be worst case scenario in my mind.

Now as there is a clear difference on shooting from one area to another, you need to have the tools for the defense too to attempt to guide the offensive player away from the hot spots... Block the path or something...

Like at lower skill level, you know one guy dribbles to his right and almost never to his left, so you position yourself that way on defense.

But hot spots ring in my head as the "comfort zone"... The place that you are most comfortable shooting from and you naturally head to those places on the court... I notice my self doing so and I definitely have some spots on the court where I really shouldn't shoot at all. So if someone can "guide" me to a spot where I don't like shooting from, the defenders job is 60% done already. But a high quantity & high percentage areas should qualify as hot spots...

This effect should be pretty minimal in the game. Actually so minimal that from a single game you cannot tell if it had any effect at all. For example, if you shoot 45% from hot spot, you should shoot 43% from a cold spot. I'm afraid that the "point" is driven home from EA side and this difference will be a lot bigger, which is pretty much wrong. And this difference is from similar range from the basket and not the difference between inside scoring and 3pt shooting for Duncan.

[Andrew]

Duncan shot 1 of 1 from down town, that hardly makes it a hot spot. Rather a lucky spot...

Adjustments have been made in situations like that, so Duncan won't have a red zone out at the three point line. 1/1 or 2/3 isn't going to be enough to give a player a hot spot.

And again, EA can screw this up, but I'm afraid it will be the other way around... Shooting from the hot spots is going to be ok, but what I am afraid of is the fact that shooting from the cold spots could be next to impossible! So you need to seek out those hot spots to score at all, that would be worst case scenario in my mind.

That didn't seem to be the case, even on Superstar difficulty. Shawn even hit a game winning shot from one of Iverson's blue zones as he'd worked himself open and taken a good shot. That's not to say you can't notice a difference but it's not a matter of making a shot in a red zone, missing it in a blue zone and having a random result in a yellow zone.

This effect should be pretty minimal in the game. Actually so minimal that from a single game you cannot tell if it had any effect at all. For example, if you shoot 45% from hot spot, you should shoot 43% from a cold spot. I'm afraid that the "point" is driven home from EA side and this difference will be a lot bigger, which is pretty much wrong. And this difference is from similar range from the basket and not the difference between inside scoring and 3pt shooting for Duncan.

I think this is going to be the case. People who have no interest in hot spots and don't want to ever bring up the overlay are still likely going to get along fine and they'll eventually get a feel of where to shoot from using their players anyway. Players who do use the hot spots will need to do effectively since it's not just a matter of getting your player in place and firing it up. It still comes down to working yourself open and your timing on the shoot button. A bad shot from a hot spot is not going to have as good a chance of going on.

[kingtrobe807]

sorry if it been asked before....but will the hot-spots change during a dynasty mode...where its a clean start..and through the season..the hot zones develop?

[Andrew]

They'll change, but not game-to-game. They develop over time with the player's ratings.

[kingtrobe807]

so the actual stats dont change the hot-spots....only ratings?

[Andrew]

The development of ratings, yes.