REAL NBA HOTSPOTS

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REAL NBA HOTSPOTS

Postby 617KiD on Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:15 am

Take a look, the nba really uses hotspots to see where a player shoots a high percentage, just put in the player, team, and season..and take a look at the hotspots


http://www.nba.com/hotzones/


just thought i'd show you guys this
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Postby cheater1034 on Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:24 am

Cool, thanks for the link :D I knew they really measured hot zones (that's why nba live is implementing it into their game to make it more realistic)

I didn't know it was online though, thanks ;)
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Postby buzzy on Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:34 am

Nice find.

Haha, Timmy Duncan got a red zone in the left corner three, because he tried one and made it (i rememberthat game) so he's 1 for 1 with 1.000 % ... his hotspot :lol:

I was looking for Curry's game-tieing three also, but I didn't found it.
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Postby [S]Reaver on Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:40 am

Hmmm...I didn't know T-Mac had cold spots...interesting...very interesting...

Let's see who can find the player with the most number of cold spots.

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Postby Jing on Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:15 am

Didn't know NBA.com had this feature, pretty nifty.
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Postby Sac-1 on Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:45 pm

buzzy wrote:Nice find.

Haha, Timmy Duncan got a red zone in the left corner three, because he tried one and made it (i rememberthat game) so he's 1 for 1 with 1.000 % ... his hotspot :lol:

I was looking for Curry's game-tieing three also, but I didn't found it.

I found Curry. Appearantly, his hot spot is the same as Bruce Bowen.
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Postby shobe81 on Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:52 am

LOL this is just pathetic, now EA is putting hotspots IN the game? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!! I thought we were concentrating on 5 on 5 basketball? So Bruce Bowen has a face in his hand while he is at his favorite corner and still makes the 3? WTF is EA thinking? This feature is going to be ABUSED till death just like the past SPIN move, the Superstar features, the now "Go-to-moves", and the "hotspots"

I understand if they include a chart for you to look at after the game or before the game to see which player shoots better from a specific spot, but to have it in the game, COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!! "Push the shoulder button and see where your players hotspot is and make as many impossible shots as you can!"

Who is managing the Live franchise? EA in Live is a shame to basketball because these producers need to watch some basketball to find out how to make a basketball game.
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Postby [S]Reaver on Sun Jul 08, 2007 9:01 am

shobe81 wrote:LOL this is just pathetic, now EA is putting hotspots IN the game? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!! I thought we were concentrating on 5 on 5 basketball? So Bruce Bowen has a face in his hand while he is at his favorite corner and still makes the 3? WTF is EA thinking? This feature is going to be ABUSED till death just like the past SPIN move, the Superstar features, the now "Go-to-moves", and the "hotspots"


Andrew wrote:Hot Spots represent the area on the floor a player is most effective from shooting the basketball. Real NBA data has been used to represent a player's hot and not-so-hot spots on the floor so you won't find Shaquille O'Neal deadly from 20 feet along the baseline. Even players who can stroke a 20 foot baseline jumper won't be successful every time. Hot Spots act as a guide of where players are most effective from and where they should be to maximise their offensive skills. It still comes down to the player's execution and pressure from the defense. A player will simply be more effective from his Hot Spots.

Red areas indicate a player's most effective areas to shoot from, yellow indicates an area he's still fairly consistent from and blue represents an area where his field goal percentages tend to be a bit lower. Players will miss shots from their Hot Spots and can hit from their colder spots as well. It's not an NBA Jam-like "shoot from here and make it 99% of the time (and get nine points for it)" kind of deal.


Need I say more? :wink:

EDIT: Wow, I never realized the spin move was so powerful..until now...thanks shobe! :wink:
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Postby 617KiD on Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:02 pm

^^^o0o0o..shut DOWN!! shobe81..lol
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Postby Andrew on Sun Jul 08, 2007 6:27 pm

As you can see from that link, Hot Spots in NBA Live 08 are broken down in the same way (though agree that a more transparent display would be more aesthetically pleasing). The producers did mention that they had adjusted some hot spots to account for big men hitting rare three pointers on minimal attempts from certain areas on the floor, as far as I can remember Tim Duncan's hot spots did not include three pointers from the right corner.
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Postby shobe81 on Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:02 am

Yea but guys, I just don't like the idea of hotspots, I mean EA please make a SIM type basketball game, why should we be allowed to see the hotspots during the game? I mean colors appearing on courts just looks like a arcade Jam type of game. Fine if you want to include it so we can see who shoots well before the game but not when we're on the court.

Isn't the idea "figuring out" where your hotspot is rather than giving the user complete ideas where exactly the hotspots are! This just seems like a stupid idea to me, and I'm surprised a lot of you aren't agreeing.
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Postby Sauru on Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:08 am

if i read the report correctly from andrew you dont have to have the hot spot display on at all.
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Postby Andreas Dahl on Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:20 am

The hot spots overlay is only brought up when you want it to.

And I don't see this as arcadish at all (other than the actual overlay). I mean if Bruce Bowen hits a much higher percentage from the corner in real life, why is it a bad thing that he does so in the game? As long as it's done right and tweaked to actually give similar stats as in real life, it adds another level of authenticity to the game.

Then again, EA has always given their new features too much emphasis, so it may very well be too powerful. But I guess we'll have to wait and see. But I do love the idea though.
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Postby sarkis on Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:30 am

Andrew wrote:As you can see from that link, Hot Spots in NBA Live 08 are broken down in the same way (though agree that a more transparent display would be more aesthetically pleasing). The producers did mention that they had adjusted some hot spots to account for big men hitting rare three pointers on minimal attempts from certain areas on the floor, as far as I can remember Tim Duncan's hot spots did not include three pointers from the right corner.

try to look more attentively Andrew duncan made only one shot this season, it was even in the daily top 10,so that's why it is marked as hot zone.
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Postby Sac-1 on Mon Jul 09, 2007 7:54 am

^He is saying that they fixed it in the game because it would be wrong if Tim Duncan would be able to shoot from 3-point range in the game just because they saw he is 1 for 1 in real life.
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Postby bigh0rt on Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:52 am

Some of you are fucking retards, I swear... :shake:
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Postby Sauru on Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:25 am

i second that
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Postby [S]Reaver on Mon Jul 09, 2007 9:42 am

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Postby Andrew on Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:43 pm

sarkis wrote:
Andrew wrote:As you can see from that link, Hot Spots in NBA Live 08 are broken down in the same way (though agree that a more transparent display would be more aesthetically pleasing). The producers did mention that they had adjusted some hot spots to account for big men hitting rare three pointers on minimal attempts from certain areas on the floor, as far as I can remember Tim Duncan's hot spots did not include three pointers from the right corner.

try to look more attentively Andrew duncan made only one shot this season, it was even in the daily top 10,so that's why it is marked as hot zone.


Yes, I realise that. I was saying that EA Sports accounted for data such as this since going 1/1 from a spot on the floor doesn't really qualify an area as being a player's Hot Spot. I'm well aware that NBA.com marks it as a Hot Zone but in the game it is not marked as such since while it's statistically one of Duncan's best areas on the floor this past season - at least in terms of shooting percentage - it wouldn't be accurate to say it's a spot he consistently scores from at a high percentage.

shobe81 wrote:Yea but guys, I just don't like the idea of hotspots, I mean EA please make a SIM type basketball game, why should we be allowed to see the hotspots during the game? I mean colors appearing on courts just looks like a arcade Jam type of game. Fine if you want to include it so we can see who shoots well before the game but not when we're on the court.

Isn't the idea "figuring out" where your hotspot is rather than giving the user complete ideas where exactly the hotspots are! This just seems like a stupid idea to me, and I'm surprised a lot of you aren't agreeing.


You only bring it up if you want to. It's something I would assume you will do when you first the game and are learning about the players on your team. Once you get a feel for those players, you won't need to bring up that overlay. I understand where you're coming from but at the same time if hot spots were implemented and there was no guide/overlay for people to bring up, there'd be complaints about that too.
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Postby 06woz on Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:00 am

i still think the player indicator should change colors when your in a hot spot or at least at some transparency to the overlay.
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Postby Andrew on Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:25 pm

That's not a bad idea, the player indictator changing colours. I'd say that it's just a matter of becoming familiar with the hot spots for the players we're using so in time there'll be no need to bring up the overlay and we'll just know where to position our players for the best results.
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Postby TheMC5 on Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:31 pm

shobe81 wrote:So Bruce Bowen has a face in his hand while he is at his favorite corner and still makes the 3?


No shit. I doubt anyone could make a shot with a face in their hand. The nose at least would totally mess up your release.
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Postby nba_baller on Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:21 pm

The one online isn't the same as the one in the game. Compare Ray Allens hotspots online and Ray Allens hotspots in the "Hotspots" video.
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Postby 617KiD on Fri Jul 13, 2007 12:30 am

shobe81 wrote:So Bruce Bowen has a face in his hand while he is at his favorite corner and still makes the 3?


Its a trailer, do you think there gonna make him miss the shot, c'mon now...obviously he's not gonna make every shot with a hand in his face, and plus..don't they lower the difficulty when there making trailers
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Postby Andrew on Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:48 am

basketaballfreak wrote:The one online isn't the same as the one in the game. Compare Ray Allens hotspots online and Ray Allens hotspots in the "Hotspots" video.


Some adjustments have been made, particularly since NBA.com only represents data on two levels (red and blue) whereas NBA Live 08 will have three tiers of hot spots.
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