FIBA World Championship - Thread Retired

Western Stars

C: Andrew Bogut
F: Chris Bosh
F: Sean Marks
G: Kirk Penney
G: Chris Paul

Eastern Stars

C: Yao Ming
F: Dirk Nowitzki
F: Boris Diaw
G: Jose Calderon
G: Tony Parker

Wildcard Entry

West: Mark Dickel
East: Pau Gasol

FIBA VOTING UPDATE

Yao Ming leads all players in votes with 8 votes while Chris Bosh and Chris Paul lead all players for the Western Stars team with 6 votes apiece. The Chinese Centre is a lock to make the Eastern Stars team as a starter.

Dirk Nowtizki and Jose Calderon also look strong to start the FIBA All-Tournament Game at the forward and guard spots for the Eastern Team. A handful of other players are contesting the final two spots on the final starting lineup for that side.

For the Western Team, Andrew Bogut and Nene are tied with 4 votes each for the starting centre spot. Chris Paul and Manu Ginobili look comfortable to get starting berths while the fight for a position as a forward is looking tough too with only 3 votes seperating Chris Bosh, Luis Scola and Sean Marks.

Voting ends after the FIBA Grand Final has been played.

The Players' votes are shown below:

Western Stars

Centre

Bogut, Nene 4
Miller 1

Forward

Bosh 6
Scola 5
Marks 4
Howard, Newley, Neilson, Varejao 1

Guard

Paul 6
Ginobili 4
James, Wade, Penney, Dickel 2
Anthony 1

Eastern Stars

Centre

Yao 8
Wang 2
Gasol 1

Forward

Nowtizki 5
Diaw 3
Galanda, Songalia 2
Javtokas, Ito, Calabria 1

Guard

Calderon 5
Basile 3
Wei, Bulleri, Chatzivarettas, Parker 2
Ginevicius, Jaric, Nan 1

Western Stars

C: Andrew Bogut
F: Chris Bosh
F: Sharif Fajardo
G: Leandrinho =) Barbosa
G: Chris Paul

Eastern Stars

C: Yao Ming
F: Dirk Nowitzki
F: Boris Diaw
G: Juan Carlos Navarro
G: Pascal Roller

Wildcard Entry

West: Nene
East: Patrick Femerling

Western Stars

C: Nene
F: Chris Bosh
F: Scola
G: Lebron
G: Chris Paul

Eastern Stars

C: Yao Ming
F: Dirk Nowitzki
F: Boris Diaw
G: Tony Parker
G: Jose Calderon

Wildcard Entry

West: Wade
East: Songaila

Last edited by Buckley on Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:50 am, edited 2 times in total.

Lithuania losing to China
Anyway, good job leading China to the final.

Western Stars

C: Nenè
F: Chris Bosh
F: Carmelo Anthony
G: Dwyane Wade
G: LeBron James

Eastern Stars

C: Yao Ming
F: Dirk Nowitzki
F: Boris Diaw
G: Tony Parker
G: Jose Calderon

Wildcard Entry

West: Andrew Bogut
East: Darius Songaila

Sorry to Thierry and Cwebb... Wades not on the ballot... so u can only vote him as wildcard entry...

also, make sure you vote for them in the right position or ur vote wont be counted... u have till tommorrow to fix this!

West:

C: Nene
F: Bosh
F: Nocioni
G: Melo
G: Paul

East:

C: Yao
F: Nowitszki
F: Diaw
G: Parker
G: Calderon

Wildcard:
East - Bogut
West - Liu Wei

Western Stars

C: Nene
F: Luis Scola
F: Sharif Fajardo
G: Manu Ginobili
G: Chris Paul

Eastern Stars

C: Yao Ming
F: Shunsuke Ito
F: Boris Diaw
G: Vidas Ginevicius
G: Gianluca Basile

Wildcard Entry

West: Lebron James
East: Wang ZhiZhi

Hmm, I can't believe I missed. A bit unrealistic, but never mind.

CHINA WON! 63-61 !!! Bogut missed game-winning FTs and Wang made a shot to put China to victory!!

Actually, it was Yao. I watched the whole game live, Yao was so dominant in that game.

H Rock... how is this unrealistic??? Its great and yeh, dont underestimate China or Nigeria IRL!

And one day till FIBA starts.. wait it does start today lol... Aussies take on Brazil... we will beat them... andf China takes on Italy I believe... we can beat them too!!!

Western:
Centre
Andrew Bogut

Forward
Matt Neilson
Andrea Nocioni

Guard
Carmelo Anthony
Leandro Barbosa


Eastern:

Centre
Pau Gasol

Forward
Boris Diaw
Predrag Drobnjak


Guard
Marko Jaric
Tony Parker

West:

C: Nene
F: Chris Bosh
F: Andrea Nocioni
G: Manu Ginobili
G: Chris Paul

East:

C: Ming Yao
F: Dirk Nowitzki
F: Darius Songaila
G: Gianluca Basile
G: Tony Parker

Wildcard:

Andrew Bogut
Robertas Javtokas

H Rock... how is this unrealistic??? Its great and yeh, dont underestimate China or Nigeria IRL!

I doubt China will make the finals...unfortunately. Not to mention I don't think Yao will average 6 assists and 6 blocks a game.

By the way, are you interested in watching China in the WC? Have you herad of PPStream?

PPStream stinks... i will just read recaps.. how i usually follow the NBA.

Also... go Yao. Yeh, the assists and blocks are a bit high but man, they all come in the flow of the game. Plus, the way I win games in the game is how China will if they do win games lol...

Get a big lead at the start and battle lol

FIBA All-Tournament Teams Announced
Fan Voting Ends and Teams are Finalised for All-Tournament Game

By WILL SIT, AP Writer
September 3, 2006

JAPAN (AP) -- As fan voting closes, the FIBA All-Tournament Teams have been finalised. Yao Ming of China led all players in voting while Chris Paul led all guards and Chris Bosh led all forwards.

The Starting Line-ups for each team were determined by the five players with the most votes in their position. Brazil’s Nene; USA’s Chris Bosh and Chris Paul; Argentina’s Luis Scola and Manu Ginobili, will start for the Western Team. The Eastern team will be led by China’s Yao Ming; France’s Boris Diaw and Tony Parker; Germany’s Dirk Nowitzki; and Spain’s Jose Calderon.

The team’s benches were selected by each team’s respective coaches.

The Western Stars will have Nigerians Julius Nwosu and Kingsley Ogwudire; Argentines Andrea Nocioni and Ruben Wokowisky; New Zealanders Kirk Penney and Sean Marks; and Team USA/NBA superstar LeBron James. The Eastern Team will have China’s Wei Liu; Japan’s Shunsuke Ito; Spain’s Pau Gasol; Greeks Nikos Chatzivarettas and Antonis Fotsis; Italians Giacomo Galanda and Gianluca Basile.

My analysis of each team member is as follows:

Western Stars



Centre: Nene -- The Brazillian knows he has a lot of fans but he was lucky to edge Australian Andrew Bogut by one vote. This in turn means that Bogut most likely has lost a spot in this game thanks to Nene. Nene did play a great game but his team was knocked out by Italy.
Tournament Grade: C+

Power Forward: Luis Scola -- Scola was outstanding all tournament. During the early stages, Scola played as Argentina’s number one scoring threat and option however he later graciously took a back seat for his team mate Manu Ginobili. Scola still managed to rack up points and rebounds with ease as he finished the tourney averaging 20 ppg and 12 rpg.
Tournament Grade: A-

Small Forward: Chris Bosh -- The skinny American forward played a lot of time at the Centre position and excelled on all parts of the floor. He led the Americans in scoring but also showed his versatility by playing great defence, running the floor well and being a team player. A fan favourite after his time in Japan.
Tournament Grade: B+

Shooting Guard: Manu Ginobili -- Just edged out LeBron James for the starting spot but rightly so as Manu shone on the World Stage. In the last game against Spain, he proved his ability to bring a team back on his own back and excelled all over the floor. Argentina finishing sixth was really a knock against his name.
Tournament Grade: A

Point Guard: Chris Paul -- At such a young age, the NBA’s rookie of the year seems like a lock to make the USA roster for Beijing. And he might do it and start in front of USA’s other Point Guard Chauncey Billups. Paul played great in his pass first role and was great in the open court as well in the half court sets. He led USA in scoring and assists while playing good defence; he was definitely a pleasant surprise.
Tournament Grade: A+

Bench:

Centre: Julius Nwosu -- Nigeria got far thanks to Nwosu’s hustle and inside presence. The unselfish big man helped Nigeria surprise and stun many of basketball fans around the World and had a great tournament nearly averaging a double double.
Tournament Grade: B

Forward: Sean Marks -- A popular New Zealand player but was unlucky to be narrowly beaten by Luis Scola for a starting spot. Marks was averaging 26 ppg before he received only limited minutes in each of New Zealand’s last two games of the tournament. He was reportedly suffering from a minor leg injury.
Tournament Grade: B-

Forward: Andrea Nocioni -- A reason why Argentina worked so well was due to Nocioni’s hustle, defence and sportsmanship. The Chicago Bulls’ SF had well-rounded numbers and was an inspiration to his team mates when times looked grim. Always on the court alongside Scola and Ginobili.
Tournament Grade: B+

Guard: Kirk Penney -- Penney played very well in the last two games of the tournament. His forte is scoring and he did a great job at it. After New Zealand were eliminated in the quarter finals, Penney’s scoring average rose from 8 to 16. He struggled in the clutch though.
Tournament Grade: B

Guard: Kingsley Ogwudire -- A former star Junior at Montana State University where he scored 22 ppg, the tiny veteran PG helped lead Nigeria through the group stage and knockout games that eventually led to bronze medals. His most impressive performance was leading his team with 18 points in the third place playoff against Italy.
Tournament Grade: A-

Wildcard: Centre Ruben Wokowisky -- The Argentine centre played brilliantly and was what his team needed in tough situations when they were getting beaten inside. Wokowisky has been a solid option down low while providing defence on every play. A smart player not many believed in to make a difference before the tournament,
Tournament Grade: B+

Wildcard: Guard LeBron James -- LeBron is used to being the number 1 option in Cleveland so when he was with Team USA, people weren’t sure what role he would play. Surprisingly, Bron took a backseat for big men Chris Bosh and Dwight Howard and played more of a team player’s role. Always putting up points when needed and making the smart passes and never putting the team in jeopardy; his efforts are rewarded with a place on the Western Team bench.
Tournament Grade: A-

Eastern Stars



Centre: Yao Ming -- The Chinese big man had a brilliant tournament and won Tournament MVP after leading the Chinese; and in the process surprising many critics. His numbers have been amazing and this may have been Yao’s coming out party and a sign of things to come from the Asian big man.
Tournament Grade: A+

Power Forward: Dirk Nowitzki -- The German sharpshooter was lucky to secure a spot thanks to fans as his team crashed out of the round of 16. Maybe it wasn’t his fault entirely but more of him was expected. Did look out-of-sorts all tournament.
Tournament Grade: C-

Small Forward: Boris Diaw -- Another player who was lucky to be chosen as France were knocked out in the first round. He did play well in the group stage though and did go out of the World Championship with a team-leading 20 points in their last game.
Tournament Grade: C

Shooting Guard: Jose Calderon -- The Spaniard played outstanding defence holding many of his PG opponents below double digits and was a dangerous shooter while leading Spain to strong wins. It was unfortunate that they met the USA and reached only fifth place.
Tournament Grade: B+

Point Guard: Tony Parker -- The other French NBA star didn’t get to flaunt his stuff after being injured during the group stage. He made a surprise return for the first game of the knockout stage and made an impact with 14, 7 and 8 but was unlucky that France were knocked out. He makes the starters list thanks to his popularity and girlfriend.
Tournament Grade: C+

Bench:

Centre: Pau Gasol -- Pau Gasol had an easy-going tournament and payed for it as the USA beat his team. However, he turned it up a notch in the final 2 games of the knockout stage to lead his team past New Zealand and Argentina. He may have only scored 11 ppg but that didn’t reflect his actual offensive potent as he showed in the fifth place game. He finished with 20 and 19 against Argentina.
Tournament Grade: B-

Forward: Giacomo Galanda -- The Italian was a great team player as coaches from other teams admired his teamwork and all-around game. Unfortunately, he underperformed against Nigeria in the third place playoff and that have hurt him along with his team mates.
Tournament Grade: B

Forward: Antonis Fotsis -- Fotsis was a surprise decision but he was probably chosen because he displayed great hustle. A few games where he fouled out early due to questionable calls ruined his statistics. He made the most of his inside scoring opportunities and defended hard. His downfall was poor decision making on defence that cost him playing time.
Tournament Grade: C+

Guard: Gianluca Basile -- The leader of Italy was magnificent all over the floor as he was averaging 26 ppg at one stage. An able scorer and an unselfish one too, Basile led his team to the semi finals where they lost to USA by a bare margin of 3 points. He surprised many people at this tournament and deserves a spot on this roster.
Tournament Grade: A

Guard: Nikos Chatzivarettas -- The Greek SG was the Greek version of Italy’s Basile as he led the European Champions. Greece, considered lucky for winning last year, tried to prove their doubters wrong. Unfortunately, they finished a disappointing eighth place after a fourth quarter collapse to New Zealand. Chatzivaettas’ performance can’t be overlooked though.
Tournament Grade: A

Wildcard: Guard Liu Wei -- The Chinese PG certainly surprised many as he hit open shots, made good decisions with the ball and lowered those turnovers. Yao Ming seems to have benefited most from a rejuvenated Liu Wei who must be wishing he figured this out a few years ago when he was trying to make the Sacramento Kings’ roster.
Tournament Grade: A-

Wildcard: Forward Shunsuke Ito -- Since the tournament is being held in Japan, Coach K and staff had to pick a Japanese player. They chose Japan’s best player at this tournament over a handful of possibly more deserving players such as China’s Wang Zhizhi, Italy’s Dante Calabria, Spain’s Jorge Garbajosa and Italy’s Massimo Bullerri. But who doesn’t want to have a home crowd favourite? Ito scored 27 points in a knock out stage loss but he did have a fairly average tournament to say goodbye to international duty and this invite seems like the icing to the cake.
Tournament Grade: C

wheres bogut and wade lol. anyways the east is looking great

Bogut didnt get enough votes then he wasnt good enough to make the reserves, blame urselves for voting for Nene lol

And Wade averaged 6 ppg for the tourney

PPStream stinks... i will just read recaps.. how i usually follow the NBA.

Hmm...I've just switched to TVKoo. A lot better quality, very easy to use, and an English site, too. And right now I'm watching USA-Puerto Rico on it.

Nah man... if i want a game I will download it i guess... it should be cool

plus i shall watch recpas on nba.com

FIBA Real Life Tournament Watch... Day 1

Just a bit of random ranting from me!

Some upsets today definitely.. Aussies beat Brazil! Go Aussies lol... Andrew Bogut had 10 points I think... Mark Worthington led the Boomers with 23... We all know about USA winning. But what I like is Carmelo leading the team in scoring and being a good leader. Scoring 9 points in the second quarter to get USA going again after a slow start.

Serbia got beaten by Nigeria. haha, go the nigerians! lol Serbia aint ready for this comp IMO... Darko only got like 5 points... hopefully, they do better in their next game.

New Zealand is pretty close to Spain now and China - Italy is on! Im following via liveupdates

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EDIT1: Spain ltrail 28-29 to New Zealand. Looks like Kirk Penney is in foul trouble with 3 fouls with only 8 mins left in the 2nd quarter. Edit within Edit-- Kirk Penney has 3 fouls in 2 mins.. wonder if thats cause he got tech foulled...

EDIT2: Its bout 8:35 PM, the Cina Italy game kicks off... but did i read right? Yi Jianlan wins the jumpball.. why didnt Yao jump? Ah well... he got fouled... seems like it anyways. Well, Italy scores the first points, i cant see who it was... updates are oober slow. Alright, Basile has already scored twice, the score is 4-0.

EDIT3: I think its low scoring... 4-5 with 6 mins to go in the first quarter. China trails by one. New Zealand losing 43-35... gotta get back at it... Argentina leads France 40-33 or something like that; 1 min left in second quarter. Meawhile, our Lithuanian firends are winning by three against Turkey.

EDIT4: China's taken a 9-5 lead. I like it

EDIT5: Halftime in the Argentina-France game.. Argentina is winning 44-33... while they have their break, I must say I'm proud that Ronny Turiaf; the French Mark Madsen is on the national side and I'm proud of him! He's even scored 1 point which is better than 9 of the 24 players from both sides. He has 1 foul and that's better than 12 of the 24 guys there... wait, thats not good is it?

EDIT6: Spain's opened up a 48-36 lead off what I assume has been a scoring run. Hopefully the hot streak ends soon cause the Tall Blacks and the Kiwis can get back at them. I hope Penney sinks 5 threes in Pau's face and then let's Pero tackle him rugby style. The Pau can get sent off Well, i dont really wanna see that happen... but I wish my fellow Kiwis well.

EDIT7: FIBA's Live Updates are too goddamn slow... damn...

EDIT8: Preparing for Flo to come in... gotta say congrats to Germany for beating host nation Japan... however I have read that Japan has a very young team and the scoreline wasnt TOO lopsided.

EDIT9: I'd like to reccomend this as a good read!

EDIT10: Just felt like complaining about how crap this site and liveupdates run... god damn its slow and i can barely find bosxcores of games such as Aus-Brazil... always a 'Cant display' page... Come on FIBA... do something bout it! Altho i doubt they can... maybe heaps of ppl on the same page i guess lol

EDIT11: Wow, I'm rooting for Turkey now!!! Go Turkey lol... beating Lithuania!!! And New Zealand still trailing.. Kirk Penney has his fourth foul.. wats going on with him??? And X's buddy Bradshaw has 9 and 7... only thing i dont like is his 1-7 from 3pt range...

EDIT12: Ok,. Wang Zhizhi has 8 points.. good right? ok... he's shooting 1-6 from the field... so-so.. then i look at the play by play.. he missed a shot from inside... if thats the case for all his missed shots.. i just gotta say... 'ur the second best player on the team?? God damn it, ur one of the hugest guys on the court, how can u miss from inside???? u retared inbred, overgorwn asian!!!! rarrr...' EDIT THANK YOU COACH FOR PUTTING YAO BACK ON!!! YAY... 17 and 7 so far for my man Yao lol Sorry Kobe, but yeh, since Yao is in town, i have to root for him... and no, i wont root u...

EDIT13: FIBA's not loading again...

EDIT14: 35-39 at HT for China and Italy.. China losing. Not much I can say but I guess stats dont tell the whole story but is it just me or the lack off assists the PGs get really scare me??? Can anyone tell me if they are actually creating shots for their big men??? And Yao - Wang - Yi lineup looks awesome on paper...

EDIT15: While I wait for halftime to finish.. i just wanna run through a few things China's got to do tommorrow. I didn't see the game against the USA but I assume the United States must have sent a full court press at the Chinese. Firstly, China's guards just aren't allowed to get intimidated and try and get through it. Try and slow down the tempo and not run at USA's pace. We can't outrun them. Yao needs to get a lot of touches. Wang better be having a hot shooting night and Yi Jianlan has got to be storng under the hoop (if thats possible and if Dwight doesnt take out his arm)

EDIT16: Im heartbroken... we're trailing with one quarter left. Down 56-67... only 11 points... lets go Yao and China! Yao's on 28 and 9 but i much rather be winning... still, i have faith!!! And Turkey and Lithuania are close again. Argentina ended up beating France and Spain beat New Zealand by 16... their biggest lead was 25 at one stage tho... And X... ur prediction was sorta close lol..

EDIT17: Ok.. gotta take my anger out now... im trying to stay calm but with som many bloody short ppl in china... why cant we have one decent PG??? Why??? And with the amount of wannabe Asian And1 ballers... why arent there any quick players on the Chinese team who gets mintues??? hey China??? This stinks... i wish China had a dependable ball handler... Wei Liu and co dont seem to be doing the job right. I cant see the game but i feel like this is what's going on. For all i know, they probably are pretty damn good passes... if a good passer needs to pass the ball to Yao's crouch area...

EDIT18: Damn... tough loss man... well... next game we will beat the US of A...

EDIT19 1 minute to go for lithuania v turkey.. turkey leads by one... sounds eciting lol wow... 18 seconds left, lithuania's time out... oh yeh... looks real exctiing!

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Ok, here's my wrap up for Day 1 of the FIBA World Championship... Aussies need to get the ball into Bogut more often... it still seems like a very guard orienteated offence. Seriously Australia... we gotta play to our stregnths and i wanna see Bogut scoring 20 and 10 but a win is a win and one against Brazil is just class.

China really broke my heart. A second half collapse and loss to Italy but I hope we do make the enxt round and I have faith in that I guess.

News just came in from Flo that Turks beat lithuania! That's awesome news haha... FROM FIBA: Gustas, Giedrius missed the shot in the paint... gutted I say lol... bad luck for them!

Back to China... hope our guards play stronger next game. Yao must be playing well and i got to say to them damn Italians... every second foul they commited was on Yao.. not fair, trying to hurt our superstar... (again, i wouldnt have a clue if thats true lol)

Anyways... this is Sit, signing out!

Nice writings Sit
Too bad ltu lost

man... China's coaches dont know how to defend the three pointer... they allowed friggin 13/25! that is just not right.

However Yao scored 30 points on 12/17 shooting (70%), and 9 rebounds.

You think Italy's easy to defend near the three-point line???

You should see what did they do to Lithuania at the semi's in Athens...
It's they're only good weapon and they use it well.

You need to put fast defenders on 'em!(And I do believe China doesn't have 'em...)

yeah, the Kiwis could've really used Dickel....he's the quickest player we've got & used to throw alleyoops to Shawn Marion regularly at UNLV....scoreline was as I expected....I believe that we have Germany next....Germany, IMHO, aren't on the same level as Spain, & if Dirk has an off night, we can take that one....although I don't think we're gonna win....as for Bradshaw, going 1/8 from 3Pt is unforgiveable....that's the thing that will keep him out of NBA & off to Europe or wherever, he is trigger happy from 3....he needs to develop other areas of his game & look to get closer to the basket more often....Penney was solid, we need to run more plays for him

EDIT: Bloody diving Spaniards....I will not be supporting them anymore

http://sport.guardian.co.uk/breakingnews/feedstory/0,,-6025571,00.html

You can dive in basketball?

Yeah, I forgot to mention Dickel was suspended... he's a player who's been with the national team for as long as I can rememeber and he's pretty decent. Looks to me like NZ has 11 players now and is awaiting his return (am i right/wrong?)... anyways, I hope he returns! lol

And Jing, I expect Yao to do that. What would surprise me is his team mates stepping up!

And yeah, you must be underrating Italy a bit... they did come 2nd in Athens...