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Postby Jackal on Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:55 pm

"John Wayne is a faggot."

That movie is a cult classic, I love it. One of my top movies.
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Postby magius on Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:32 pm

Just watched the movie "The Devil and Daniel Johnston." This movie pisses me off on so many different levels. Not because the movie was bad, in fact it was pretty good, after all it is provoking this response and thought. But jesus fucking christ, it just represents everything wrong with art imo. I listen to Johston, and the guy can hardly sing or play an instrument, or even write and people calling him better than robert johnson and dylan? Its fucking ridiculous; people are so fucked up they worship fucked up into a never ending circle of pure fuck. I hate all this outsider art shit and dada crap, fuck that man. And I hate that this is exactly the response they want from it - a response. They create things so full of shit, that it provokes - and because of that some dipshit critic and some loser fans follow them around like they're jesus. Goddamn grow a mind, people are so desperate trying to be 'unique' or 'on the edge' or 'different' or 'new' - i think its fucking pathetic. I mean I go around and see all these fucking shits just drawing stick men with text bubbles, and people have the audacity to call that shit genius?!

I really have no words to describe how shit this is. I'm at that point where thought is beyond translation. What pisses me off more is I completely understand the philosophy, the thought, the reasoning behind it... and, to be honest, I can completely sympathize - I understand, and in a way I almost agree at this faux rebellion against ideology and society and preconceived right and wrong, beautiful and ugly, good and bad, etc.. Yet I despise it horrendously simultaneously. Its such a back and fourth fuck up.

Which is why I would recommend this movie :D Not the greatest, but maybe it will make you think. And if you're, from my perspective, stupid enough to feed into it, its not like it could've made you any stupider.

Anyhow also recently watched Amelie. I love the atmosphere it created, and Yann Tiersen!
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Postby [Q] on Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:23 am

finished "unleashed" with Jet Li, Morgan Freeman. Not too bad of a movie. I thought the collar gimmick was a little hokey, but it was a good movie. fight scenes were awesome as usual.
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Postby mvpshaq32 on Wed Jun 20, 2007 5:13 pm

Saw Bedazzled on tv and it was pretty good. Probably because of Elizabeth Hurley........He had Hurley in front of him for the whole damn movie and chooses to hit that flat girl with the big forehead.
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Postby Drex on Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:01 pm

I'm not sure how many people would like to hit on the Devil.
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Postby Indy on Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:17 pm

maguis, Daniel Johnston is a seriously mentally ill person, its not because his music is poor that he's popular, its because it is different and interesting. The whole crazy person behind it all makes it very attractive to listen to because it is music from a completely different perspective. Sure his music sucks, his drawings are terrible and he is a creepy guy, but that is what America is all about. Breaking down the barriers of movies and music in the past.

My friends dad actually helped work on that movie, and so my friend had some drinks with Johnston at sundance, said he's just as crazy as in the movie.

EVERYONE GO SEE KNOCKED UP RIGHT NOW!! Funniest movie in a long time.
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Postby Patr1ck on Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:18 pm

Serious? How many people get a chance to fuck the devil?
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Postby magius on Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:15 pm

Indy wrote:maguis, Daniel Johnston is a seriously mentally ill person, its not because his music is poor that he's popular, its because it is different and interesting. The whole crazy person behind it all makes it very attractive to listen to because it is music from a completely different perspective. Sure his music sucks, his drawings are terrible and he is a creepy guy, but that is what America is all about. Breaking down the barriers of movies and music in the past.

My friends dad actually helped work on that movie, and so my friend had some drinks with Johnston at sundance, said he's just as crazy as in the movie.

EVERYONE GO SEE KNOCKED UP RIGHT NOW!! Funniest movie in a long time.

thats what i don't agree with though - making or liking something different for the sake of it being different first and foremost. Of course, like you say, that is what America (in general) is all about, but it just goes against what i think "art," hell, life should be about. The problem is, I understand that perhaps his music instigated or helped instigate the slightest of change, so in that sense I just don't know how to respond. Perhaps I'm just being close minded, akin to how some people would react to abstract expressionism, etc.. But then again change isn't always necessarily for the better.... questioning what is common is a great thing, but sometimes it is even more valuable to question the question.

i don't know though, there are just some things i can't bring myself to agree with. Things like people masturbating pumpkins and calling that art, things like filming a person sitting in a chair for 24 hours. Even art movements like dadaism, and outsider art. I understand the concept, I understand the philosophy and the inherent questioning in these pieces, that basic question of 'what is art' followed inevitably by 'what is,' but sometimes I just think there is something seriously wrong when an artist statement is more important than the art itself (If I wanted to read, I'd fucking read Foucalt or Lacan or Freud, etc. instead). Though again, that is obviously how American culture, in general, presently works, I personally prefer art that speaks for itself; I don't need to know the history of the artist, or the art, I only want to know it and see it and translate it at face value. I don't want to go to a gallery and see something that was absolutely made to be incoherent, and stare at it for an hour pretending to look somehow smart. As if somehow through staring at a used condom on a pedestal for an hour I am now somehow more knowledgeable. Please. Its like some artists say, nowadays, sometimes it is the gallery that makes the art - hold a show with nothing but bare walls, and you will be a guaranteed blast. imho a lot of the people who feed into that kind of modern art are pseudo intellectual, delatante, talentless shits looking for some kind of elitist self redemption.

also, the creators of the movie itself, did anything but agree that the music was poor. In fact, they themselves, in interviews, put him on par with some of the greatest musicians and songwriters EVER. and in that respect I just don't believe that everyones "entitled to their own opinion"... of course they can have one, but it doesn't mean the reasoning behind it is valid.

anyhow, yeah gonna see knocked up soon. Theres a lot of fun movies coming out.
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Postby Indy on Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:29 am

But see, that's the incredible thing about art. There is no black and white, it is all gray. Personally, I'd rather listen to Daniel Johnston then Jim Jones and Young Jeezy.
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Postby shadowgrin on Sun Jun 24, 2007 5:33 am

You be hatin Indy. No love for the Jeezy. :shake:

Drex wrote:I'm not sure how many people would like to hit on the Devil.

Pdub wrote:How many people get a chance to fuck the devil?

Nice. :lol:
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Postby Jackal on Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:39 am

Watched Zodiac. Hmm, it was...long.

It started off really cool with the first few murders, but then it became so much talking, talking & talking. The "action" element I expect from a David Fincher movie just wasn't there in the latter part.

A great movie, just not what you'd expect from a guy that brought you Fight Club, Se7en and even Panic Room to an extent.

Fine performances all around, Downey Jr. kind of reminded me of Jack Sparrow in the latter parts but overall, a good watch. They could've trimmed it a bit though.
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Postby Lamrock on Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:45 am

Just saw Knocked Up. Hilarious film, a lot better than I expected. I definitely recommend.
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Postby Jackal on Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:47 am

Fuck the lot of you for getting movies before we do. :x
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Postby magius on Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:56 am

spiderman 6 was great.
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Postby Pera on Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:59 am

Then whats the plot of it ? :P
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Postby magius on Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:01 am

it's secret.
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Postby Patr1ck on Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:01 am

Anyways, I saw "Next" last night, and I can't say it was a bad movie, just boring. Nicholas Cage plays a guy who can look 2 minutes into the future, but he is searching for a girl who he has had preminitions about for a long time, because she is the only part of the future that he has seen beyond 2 minutes. The Feds want to use his power to stop a nuclear bomb. The stupid thing is that the villans were chasing after Cage, too. If you have a nuclear bomb and you want to detonate it, you fucking detonate it. You don't waste time trying to find a psychic before the Feds do. It's not like he was a known psychic, either, so I don't know how the villans figured out who he was. There was absolutely no build up of any characters. I was waiting the whole movie for it to get interesting, and right when it starts to get interesting, it's over and the credits roll. Cage sucked, Julianne Moore sucked, Columbo sucked, the script sucked, and I would like Jessica Biel to suck. The only good things about this movie were the premise and the camera work, and the scene where Cage is anticipating this guys moves as he is being attacked, while talking to Biel at the same time.
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Postby Pera on Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:28 am

I wouldn't call it a bad movie, though Cage is on my top 10 list of favourite actors.

I found that interesting where he could see into the future. The best part where he would say that the future is for over changed when you look at it .

I do agree though,they could make the movie longer. Where he says " Shit , I made a mistake.

Oh well its Hollywood for you .
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Postby Patr1ck on Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:41 am

I was a little harsh. It was inching at getting better while I was watching it, but I think my opinion not favorable because I had high expectations for it. It's worth a rental.
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Postby magius on Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:24 am

bridge to terabithia was pretty sad, and i rarely cry, but overall it just really reminded me of how it feels to be a kid watching a kid movie. the actress also really reminds me of my best friend, i liked her in winn dixie too.

watched akira again today
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Postby Gundy on Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:22 pm

I saw 1408. It's the first horror/thriller movie I've seen in the theater and I was very impressed overall. The acting is top notch and it is quite suspenseful and scary. It really keeps you on the edge of your seat. I recommend it. (Y) (Y)
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Postby Patr1ck on Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:48 pm

Hell yes. They are making a Hitman movie. Here is the teaser trailer.
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Postby [Q] on Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:56 pm

sick. disappointed it's made by a bunch of Frenchies nad no huge stars here. vin Diesel was supposed to produce and star according to imdb, but I think the guy from The Transporter would've been decent too.
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Postby Pera on Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:50 am

Watched 7 Seconds today.

Can't say I didn't like it, but from a actor like Snipes I expected a little more. Wesley talking Romanian did make my day though.

The movie was confusing at parts. You think you got it all figured out and then they throw you a curve ball. Which changes the plot .

I'll give it a 6/10.
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Postby Jackal on Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:54 am

The guy playing Hitman (Olyphant) doesn't even remotely resemble the Hitman character. They just shaved his head and bam, he's the Hitman? Shame shame.

I think the guy that gives Hitman his voice in the games, would've been a suitable choice.

David Bateson.

Others that come to mind are indeed Jason Statham (despite his accent/voice), Wentworth Miller (despite being gay) and to a certain extent Vin Diesel.

My first choice would remain Bateson because he's already the Hitman's voice. After that my choice would be Statham.

I'm disappointed with the casting choice. :(
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