V2.0 Rosters Out! Comments Suggestions Here *7-29-03*

[Stonecold]

only 3 players still showing up in wizards and it crashed my game. holla if ya hear me.

[joemimic]

Hollaring

Fixed. New Download is up, you know where.

Shoooooooot Fellas! We might get another update here soon, I've found some players that needed editing. Thanks for people who've brought stuff to my attention, I almost said the S word back there lmfao

[Bill Russell]

Good work man

[Vins15]

great job on the roster... did u add Canadian Carl English in the roster? and i heard that Samaki Walker is gonna sign with Heat...

[joemimic]

I'll be adding new players as I get to them And yes Samaki is with his new team...sucks for them

[RandomSurge]

joe: I took the rookies from your dbf and appended them to my own personal roster patch (I'm not planning on releasing it or anything)

So I want to thank you for saving me some time

There's stuff missing from their bios, and I'm going through all their looks to make them look more like the real people (you have much more to do so I understand why you might not have devoted that much time to this aspect of your patch)....I obviously had to edit the ratings and things like dunkpacks to make them match my own settings

I have a question, though. It seems that anybody that can shoot the 3 better than average and up to really well has a rating of 75. Deadly shooters have 76. So a guy like Allan Houston has a 75 3 rating, but so does Ira Newble

oh and you should switch wally and spree...spree will finally get to play 2 guard as wally plays the 3 so he doesn't get killed by every good swingman in the league

There are other things in the lineups, but I'm sure you'll fix them.

I simulated a whole bunch of seasons and I was very surprised by player development...it's not perfect, but it's better than I've seen. Carmelo tends to suck (I simulated more than one franchise) and lebron has gone as high as 90 for me.

The new rookie settings are still set outside of your rating parameters, though...so all the new rookies have ratings like they would for the default game...I was told this was impossible to fix, but you seem to be working on it so that it works correctly? is this true?

also, somebody else reported this already, but I've seen it happen even with no roster patches. Players simply don't sign with anybody during the offseason and then they're available for the minimum.

I was able to pick up tim duncan and steve francis for minimum salaries. They kept doing this until they retired. Overall, though...I really like what you have done with the salaries

The pacers wouldn't trade ron artest no matter what...I thought that was cool

the salary cap is set to what it was last year...and is the max salary really 40 mill a year? ha

Thanks a lot for putting all the work into this

[benji]

The Pistons lineup is still wrong...

It is Okur/Wallace/Prince/Hamilton/Billups.

Larry Brown has said so. Joe Dumars has said so.

Perhaps Campbell will start later in the year, he certainly wants to. But right now it's:

Okur/Wallace/Prince/Hamilton/Billups

Also...for the Cavaliers...Wagner has been marked as fourth guard off the bench...he's not going to start...

Marko Jaric and Al Harrington are also slated to start...

I also second Spree at SG, Wally at SF...especially since Wally played there last year and McHale said he wanted a SG so he got Spree...

[joemimic]

I have a question, though. It seems that anybody that can shoot the 3 better than average and up to really well has a rating of 75. Deadly shooters have 76. So a guy like Allan Houston has a 75 3 rating, but so does Ira Newble

I'll take a look at it, the ratings are more or less so you can still make 3's and not miss a ridiculous amount. Ira shot 38% from downtown last year, he's not bad from downtown at all he just doesn't shoot them a whole lot only 80 something attempts.

Ive made your lineup suggestions and changed some things.[/quote]

[RandomSurge]

well ira was just an example...I've seen much lesser players with 75 ratings

I've seen some players that aren't known for their shooting with 73...that's 2 away from allan houston

regardless of percentages ira newble just isn't as good a 3 point shooter as allan houston

so having them with the same rating just ain't right...

79 always seemed a good rating for guys to miss and make...once you hit 80 you'll make more than miss. At 79 you're guaranteed to miss wide open 3's from time to time

76 as the highest might be too low for most people...though I could be wrong

[joemimic]

I'll look at boosting peoples 3PT for the really good shooters, Expect a new version today or tomorrow.

[Vins15]

great looking foward to it ...

[joemimic]

I'm also going through DStats as well this time,

OP Devin Brown and Theron Smith have been added. Memphis fans can find Theron on the FA list because of the massive amount of players the grizzlies have.

[RandomSurge]

that's one thing I've yet to do for my rosters...once I do that and the career packages for the rookies I think I'll be set

oh yeah and the new salaries...gah...that's gonna take forever

the ratings themselves have just a little bit of tweaking to go...would be much quicker if I could use a tool to increase ratings by a certain interval on the fly

the one I have tried doesn't work for windows me, and I don't have access so I can't use the tool kit

doing every player one by one sucks ass...instead of just doing +1 to all experiences then going back and changing the players that didn't play last season I had to go and do them all individually, grrr

I might think about releasing it if I get good results in franchise mode. I might pack it with a whole bunch of cyberfaces and make a huge uber-patch.

still got a long way to go, though....

Oh joe, about the new coaches, do you have cyberfaces for guys like tim floyd, jeff vangundy and terry porter?

[joemimic]

Yeah they come in the update, well all but Terry Porter because he's a new coach and nobody has made him.

[Bill Russell]

Man, today I had some mins and I played two quarters with your rosters.

Minnesota vs. Denver, I was Denver.

Two things I feel you need to improve: low-post scoring and blocks... decrease them, do something like DK did...

[RandomSurge]

my rosters are basically done ratings wise

I've got everyone from 78 up done...just gotta take care of the scrubs now

I don't know how much I'm gonna mess with salaries and shit...cause playing franchise with these rosters is pointless

it resets the player ratings after one season is completed and the rookies don't follow your ratings

is there no way of overcoming this??? joe?

But I'm really thinking about releasing it, even if people can only play one season and exhibitions (oh yeah, 1 on 1)...I'm really happy with how it has turned out.

[showstopper496]

i played 6 minute quarter all star diffuculty

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Entire Game         LA Clippers      Sacramento       

Points              68               77               
Bench Scoring       13               18               
Field Goals         30/76            36/84           
Field Goal %        .395             .429             
3 Point FG          5/21             1/22             
3 Point %           .238             .045             
Free Throws         3/5              4/8             
Free Throw %        .600             .500             
Rebounds            33               37               
Off. Rebounds       5                10               
Def. Rebounds       28               27               
Blocks              10               18               
Steals              5                14               
Assists             15               19               
Turnovers           23               17               
Fouls               6                4               


[Repole]

great job on the rosters and coaches joe, appreciate it, andrews save drove me away with walker and pierces terrible ratings lol, although a 78 for my man kedrick brown was awfly kind

also just wanna say amazing work with the franchise and shit, specially the salary.... absolutly amazing...

[Repole]

damn man, with all these patches i might as well be playing live 2004, only reason i'll buy it is so i can get 2005 patches just got the melo bron darko patch, your rosters, even got them international teams, its crazy, i didnt know there was this much out there

[payaso]

joe can't download the file...

[Andrew]

great job on the rosters and coaches joe, appreciate it, andrews save drove me away with walker and pierces terrible ratings lol

I do not wish to impose on this thread or take credit away from Joe (as he's certainly done some excellent work), but I do invite suggestions for changing ratings. Also, I feel it's somewhat of an overly harsh criticism to suggest that two player's overall ratings make for a terrible roster patch.

Again, I'm sorry for imposing upon this thread, but I feel I must point out that I do invite suggestions and corrections of ratings (though sometimes I must exercise my editorial right to retain some ratings or make compromises to suit the majority's tastes).

[joemimic]

Andrew quit imposing, LoL jk

[Repole]

great job on the rosters and coaches joe, appreciate it, andrews save drove me away with walker and pierces terrible ratings lol

I do not wish to impose on this thread or take credit away from Joe (as he's certainly done some excellent work), but I do invite suggestions for changing ratings. Also, I feel it's somewhat of an overly harsh criticism to suggest that two player's overall ratings make for a terrible roster patch.

Again, I'm sorry for imposing upon this thread, but I feel I must point out that I do invite suggestions and corrections of ratings (though sometimes I must exercise my editorial right to retain some ratings or make compromises to suit the majority's tastes).

Andrew i love your patch lol, i was jk, i'd actualy prefer your ratings, i only prefer joes because of the new salary and player experiance updates...when i'm playing exibition how ever i use ur patch andrew because i like most of the ratings better.....i'm justa huge celts fan


BTW joe, i've added the bobcats to your roster, still fixing some small bugs, but when im done i was wondering if i got the permision of the court, jersey, logo makers (which is currently me cuz the ones i got sucked lol), and yourself if i could release the updated bobcats version (same as yours cept bobcats are in there with scrubs, court, jerseys, logos ect) I'de give you all of the credit, or if u wanted i could send u the bobcat update and you could release it yourself, i just think people would like having the bobcats available..

[Andrew]

great job on the rosters and coaches joe, appreciate it, andrews save drove me away with walker and pierces terrible ratings lol

I do not wish to impose on this thread or take credit away from Joe (as he's certainly done some excellent work), but I do invite suggestions for changing ratings. Also, I feel it's somewhat of an overly harsh criticism to suggest that two player's overall ratings make for a terrible roster patch.

Again, I'm sorry for imposing upon this thread, but I feel I must point out that I do invite suggestions and corrections of ratings (though sometimes I must exercise my editorial right to retain some ratings or make compromises to suit the majority's tastes).

Andrew i love your patch lol, i was jk, i'd actualy prefer your ratings, i only prefer joes because of the new salary and player experiance updates...when i'm playing exibition how ever i use ur patch andrew because i like most of the ratings better.....i'm justa huge celts fan

It's cool, no harm done. But I know some people aren't aware that I'm open to suggestions about player ratings, so I thought I'd mention it.

[Repole]

BTW joe, i've added the bobcats to your roster, still fixing some small bugs, but when im done i was wondering if i got the permision of the court, jersey, logo makers (which is currently me cuz the ones i got sucked lol), and yourself if i could release the updated bobcats version (same as yours cept bobcats are in there with scrubs, court, jerseys, logos ect) I'de give you all of the credit, or if u wanted i could send u the bobcat update and you could release it yourself, i just think people would like having the bobcats available..

So joe would that be ok, only thing i got left to finish is fixing a bug with the bobcats jerseys (for some reason it says all of em are away...), getting logos for them, cleveland, and face patches for terry porter and hubie brown [/quote]