NBA2KStuff's Historic Collection

[Culture Games]

im trying to install this mod and all its patches, but on the website theres 2 download links missing.

Historic_jerseys.exe
Main Installation file containing retro jersey graphics, & program for 70-80-90-00s decades!



Historic_courts.exe
Installation file containing graphics, & program for 70-80-90s decades classic arenas and courts (including many user contributed artworks!)



is there any way to still get these files??

[Culture Games]

im also having problems with the installation. after i install everything and try to open the history2k5 program, i get an error message that says

V1.20pp Module: Netfile
Satus: Failure Code:2
Message: Cannot open "tmp123.tmp"
No such file or directory

[abdelkader]

Sorry for undusting an old topic but I also can't find the historic jerseys and courts. Is there any way I can get it?


By the way. Can anyone post a tutorial on how to install this patch for NBA Live 2005. I've got an impression that the one I found was made for NBA 2003. Of course, the patch works fine for me but I simply want to make sure I didn't omit any of the steps and I enjoy the patch to the full extent.

[Andrew]

You can get them here:
http://download.nba-live.com/index.php?act=view&id=1827

Or direct link to the NBA2KStuff website:
http://www.nba2kstuff.org/nba/download/home2k56.html

[abdelkader]

That's the problem - those two files are missing on the website which you provided.

[Andrew]

Just checked my archive, unfortunately I don't have them. If we can track them down I'll certainly grab a copy.

[Patr1ck]

They were never available. The mod works fine without them. I downloaded it a couple years ago and wondered the same thing. I don't think the 2004 versions were converted to 2005 like the rest of the graphics.

This link was posted in another thread last year but they are from 2004.

http://membres.multimania.fr/nba2kstuff1/nba/files/

[abdelkader]

That's right. The mod works fine without them. Quite strange that they have never been available, anyway.

By the way, can you tell me how to run the rosters from the mod in season mode?
When I start a season in which there are fewer teams than the game's default number (so all seasons from the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s) I notice that there are no games in the schedule. After I simulate the regular season, the game crashes to desktop. In exhibition mode everything works perfect. The problem rises only in season mode.

[Andrew]

I think the custom/random schedule will work in Season Mode, but not Dynasty Mode.

[abdelkader]

I finally got time to test it...Well, unfortunately choosing random schedule didn't solve the problem.

I chose 2001-02 roster (so the number of the teams is equal to the modern number) and the story is still the same - the schedule is empty, there's not a single game scheduled to be played and when I simulate the regular season from A to Z, the game crashes. Apparently, the problem isn't connected with the number of the teams as I initially thought.
What can the problem be? Or, as I said a couple of posts above, I've skipped some of the patch installation steps which was crucial for that particular thing.

[Patr1ck]

Just loaded this up since I found that I still had 2005 and the mod installed. The reason I believe it crashes is due to a problem with the conference divisions. The Central and East divisions have no teams assigned, and there are only like 6 or 7 teams assigned to the eastern conference itself. You would have to go into the roster and fix the divisional and conference assignments to fit the more recent format.

[abdelkader]

It sounds reasonably.

Which dbf file and which strings are responsible for that?
I checked teams.dbf file from one of those classic rosters and CONFERENCE string in it. I compared it with teams.dbf from NLSC 0910 patch and they look the same. There are many unassigned teams as well, in spite of which NLSC 0910 patch works fine.

[Patr1ck]

I think it's the originaldb that needs to be changed since I tried doing a roster reset in the game and it displayed the same problem.

[abdelkader]

I don't think this will do any good. I checked out originaldb folder and its teams.dbf and everything looks correct. I think we'll have to contact the patch makers themselves to solve that issue.

[Patr1ck]

Good luck with that. I don't think they are around anymore.

[Andrew]

I compared it with teams.dbf from NLSC 0910 patch and they look the same. There are many unassigned teams as well, in spite of which NLSC 0910 patch works fine.

None of the teams in the NLSC rosters are unassigned to a conference and division. 0 represents the Western Conference in the CONFERENCE field and the Pacific Division in the DIVISION field.

[abdelkader]

I see it now. So it looks that the conference assignment is correct while the rosters are unplayable in season/dynasty mode.
I have just made a way DEEPER comparison of teams.dbf from NLSC 0910 and one of 2K's rosters: 1995-96. I, as the last resort effort, even filled in the blank fields with the values copied from NLSC 0910 roster but the roster still doesn't work in the way it should.

Andrew (or anyone who feels capable), I'm begging you: Could you take a look at those rosters?
You surely know about this thing a lot more than I do.

I noticed that in 2K's rosters there are only 8 dbf files in a roster folder: teams, teamgear, sockacc, shoesacc, faces, players, coaches, appearance; while in NLSC 0910 there are way many more files. Maybe it's where the problem lies?

[Andrew]

I noticed that in 2K's rosters there are only 8 dbf files in a roster folder: teams, teamgear, sockacc, shoesacc, faces, players, coaches, appearance; while in NLSC 0910 there are way many more files. Maybe it's where the problem lies?

Quite probably. I've always distributed the entire saves folder as I'm fairly certainly all the files are actually required for the save to work properly (and that the game doesn't automatically fill in the missing ones).

[abdelkader]

On the other hand, when you look at the names of those files, they are the most crucial ones while the missing rest is rather responsible only for the gimmicks: tattoos, accessories, nose shapes, etc.

It should work!!!

Is there any way we can "reconstruct" the missing files? (providing that they are crucial for proper working of the roster)

[Andrew]

Not really. Those eight files might be the ones most commonly edited when putting together a custom roster but all of the files are required as far as I'm aware. The other files are hardly gimmicks, they're important data that the game needs; that's why they're there.

Restoring those missing files is easily done. Just save a roster so you've got a complete set of saved roster files, then copy the files over from the historic roster's folder. That way, you'll be sure to leave none out.

[abdelkader]

i'll tell you what I did. I hope this is what you told me to do.

I entered the game, loaded the historic 1995-96 roster and then I saved it under a different name. Indeed, I received a roster folder with a complete set of files (I named it "test"). However, when I quit the game and entered it one more time and loaded "test" rosters the problem was still there - regular season had no matches to be played.

Another thing I did was copying the missing files from NLSC0910 roster folder to the historic roster 1995-96 - it didn't work either.


I've got an idea.
I downloaded a couple of vintage rosters from our downloads section (the ones made by PatTheHead) and I noticed that, for example, the teams which didn't exist in 1951-52 roster were named "dummy". His rosters work fine and I can play full seasons with them without any glitches...Maybe the problem revolves around team naming pattern? Just making guesses...

<<EDIT>> One more thing. When I, for example, open NLSC0910 teams.dbf file and I look at the TEAMNUM column I see that they are from 1-30 without interruption while in 2K's rosters I see for example: 28 San Antonio Spurs
30 Washington Bullets

"29" is missing. May this be a problem?

[Patr1ck]

Why don't you rename the NBA Live 2005 folder in your My Documents directory, then let the game recreate the folder and it's files to see if you can run a a season in"default" Live 2005 mode. If you can't, then the problem lies in the main NBA LIVE 2005\database\Origdb files.

If my suggestion works, then you should try to change the division assignments to match the original as close as possible, including the team assignments.

[Andrew]

i'll tell you what I did. I hope this is what you told me to do.

I entered the game, loaded the historic 1995-96 roster and then I saved it under a different name. Indeed, I received a roster folder with a complete set of files (I named it "test"). However, when I quit the game and entered it one more time and loaded "test" rosters the problem was still there - regular season had no matches to be played.

Another thing I did was copying the missing files from NLSC0910 roster folder to the historic roster 1995-96 - it didn't work either.

That's what I was suggesting, yes. Sounds like the problem lies elsewhere, perhaps with the schedule.dbf file itself.

I've got an idea.
I downloaded a couple of vintage rosters from our downloads section (the ones made by PatTheHead) and I noticed that, for example, the teams which didn't exist in 1951-52 roster were named "dummy". His rosters work fine and I can play full seasons with them without any glitches...Maybe the problem revolves around team naming pattern? Just making guesses...

Unlikely. The art abbreviation or ID could cause some issues there, otherwise perhaps it's a problem with schedule.dbf.

<<EDIT>> One more thing. When I, for example, open NLSC0910 teams.dbf file and I look at the TEAMNUM column I see that they are from 1-30 without interruption while in 2K's rosters I see for example: 28 San Antonio Spurs
30 Washington Bullets

"29" is missing. May this be a problem?

Maybe, by default the Wizards are TEAMID 29. You can check out a reference of default TEAMIDs here.

[abdelkader]

Why don't you rename the NBA Live 2005 folder in your My Documents directory, then let the game recreate the folder and it's files to see if you can run a a season in"default" Live 2005 mode. If you can't, then the problem lies in the main NBA LIVE 2005\database\Origdb files.

If my suggestion works, then you should try to change the division assignments to match the original as close as possible, including the team assignments.

I did what you said and the game worked fine with the default stuff. The regular season was full of games to play.



@Andrew
I checked the team numbers with the team ID list which you provided. I changed all the numbers so they matched the default ID but now the game crashes when I try to load a match.

[Patr1ck]

The game crashes now because all the players are assigned to a team by their team ID, so you have to change all the players, too.

Don't forget to change the conference and divisional assignments if you haven't done that.