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Postby ilpez on Fri Aug 19, 2005 11:25 pm

can't understand why players loose aspects, I also recreated with the editor (i used to create players manually editing the players/appeearance/faces dbf files) some of them... and again all players loose aspects, after editing again them :shock:

help pls.
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Postby Bassman58 on Sat Aug 20, 2005 10:30 am

Unfortunately this happens to many other people also. It makes editing very frustrating. I make frequent backups. When the database gets screwed up I go back to the last know good database and start over. Copying records seems to cause problems. I created a bunch of dummy players in-game then I edited the dummy players to create new players using CDBF. Many people have problems with MS Excel.
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Postby ilpez on Sat Aug 20, 2005 10:43 am

Hmm.. you say it's better create players with the in-game editor anche duplicate it for the rest of players? btw, I renamed original players with the players of the italian championship changing iscreated and isplayable attributes, birthdates, height and weight.. then I edit them in the game, after I finished I noticed that a lot of aspects get lost.. I'll retry with your method :roll:
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Postby Bassman58 on Sat Aug 20, 2005 11:24 am

Here's what I did to create an all-time team roster. I created 15 dummy players for all of the NBA teams. Yes that was 450 players. I did not delete any other players. Using a DBF editor I modified the players.dbf file. I started with Atlanta. I changed the existing players so they were on the Free Agents (team ID 50). I then changed 15 dummy players so they were on Atlanta (team ID 0). Then I saved a backup copy of the roster folder. I then started the game and edited the "new" Atlanta players using the in-game editor. I did not use any cyberfaces. I did not want to make 400+ cyberfaces. I made each player look as close as I could. I would then start a game with Atlanta and make sure everything looked good. Then I'd save a copy of the roster. If something went wrong I'd load the last good roster and start over. Yes, it is a long process. Just take small steps and be patient. I printed the records of any player that I included on my rosters that were already on another team, either current or a decade team, such as Dominique Wilkins and Larry Bird. I found that copying records was unreliable. I think the database gets screwed up because two files are used this year for appearance and the players. The relationships get messed up, if you are familar with databases. Hope this helps.
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Postby ilpez on Sat Aug 20, 2005 8:29 pm

Yes, it helps me!! thank you so much, I'll try that thing. I also think that with players and appearance, faces.dbf counts on creating players. Btw this year simple patching is a bit more difficult :? I started patching italian teams in july :mrgreen: and still have problems. I'll try your method, thanks again, but hope someone have other solutions..... =)
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Postby ilpez on Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:00 am

I'm back... quite finished rostering with your method, Bassman58, now a new question :D : I put nba players in the free agents slot, how can I delete them? can I do that with Access or CDBF? I have to delete from players.dbf and from appearance.dbf too I suppose.
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Postby ilpez on Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:58 am

and also... why dynasty mode crashes in the days of training camp?
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Postby Cable on Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:16 am

To delete players (in a sense), change their team in players.dbf to 38, it's the referees. They're not actually deleted from the .dbf, but they are not available in the game. :wink:
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Postby Bassman58 on Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:31 am

I tried deleting some free agents and it caused the roster to crash.

I never use dynasty mode so I can't help you. Try going to the dynasty section and post over there. I was able to start a season though.
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Postby ilpez on Wed Sep 07, 2005 4:52 pm

Cable Guy: so we could have referees like shaq or kobe and so on? hehe wow! is it the only way?

Bassman: same here, I tried to delete free angents from cdbf, after that all players created in the game lost again all aspects. I'll try the Cable Guy tip for now.
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Postby Cable on Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:51 am

No, as far as I know the players you put on team 38 don't show up as referees, but that would be really cool. :D This is just the way Andrew does it, and it doesn't mess up anything as far as I know, no corruption. It's probably the easiest way. :wink:
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Postby ilpez on Thu Sep 08, 2005 9:57 am

well.. all nba players now in the 38 slot, patch works good in season mode but crashes in dynasty mode... what can I do? All done with cdbf. I'll ask in the dynasty section as suggested by Bassman, I hope someone read and help me.
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Postby Cable on Thu Sep 08, 2005 10:06 am

Roster patches seem to crash in dynasty mode for some reason. This has also been a problem for Andrew with his rosters, maybe ask him what he did to fix it.
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Postby mchakko on Sun Sep 11, 2005 6:04 am

I think I know some of the problems, both related to using excel for editing, but both easily remedied.

1. Cyberfaces get messed up when editing roster because the relationship between appearance.dbf and players.dbf is based solely on the order of the fields in the spreadsheet, not by players having the same appearanceid and playerid. The trick is to sort by playerid and appearance id each time you save, that way everything is in the same order.

2. Excel for some reason changes some numerical fields to text, I believe the culprit is ISTRADEABLE or something. And this crashes a franchise. The way to fix is to open with a dbf editor, I used CDBF DBF Viewer editor, go to file, modify structure, and change the fields back to the correct "type". Use a working roster file as a base to see what type the fields are supposed to be.
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Postby ilpez on Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:10 pm

I'm using CDBF, never used Excell, first times I used to use Access.

mchakko, so I have to edit players.dbf and change things in TRADABLE and things like that? I saw that created players with the game editor doesn't have T or F in FACEPATCH, ISHISTORIC and TREADABLE, while original player have T or F in every records.

Btw, I'll try to change what you said.
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Postby ilpez on Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:34 am

Nothing to do... :(
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Postby ilpez on Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:37 am

Recheck lot of things but still crashes in dynasty mode... any other helps pls? :|
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