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Postby JasonLin on Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:02 am

:D Thanks Shane!~!~
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Postby Sauru on Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:10 am

i know you asked us to hold off on gameplay questions but i have to ask this one.

in your experience does nba live still use the speed cheat during fast breaks or have they solved this major problem?

btw thanks for answering my questions earlier.
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Postby Silky Smooth Vlade on Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:42 am

Sauru wrote:in your experience does nba live still use the speed cheat during fast breaks or have they solved this major problem?


He already answered this. And no, he said that it's "Gone, gone, gone."
Which I was very happy to hear. :D
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Postby Sauru on Mon Aug 09, 2004 8:48 am

oh thanks, i could not read the entire thread as my gf was hounding me to get off my ass and go out with her lol. she dont understand i have to make my posts before i go? lol anyways thanks for answering
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Postby antwainbarbour on Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:04 am

How are the blocks? In 2004, it seemed like the CPU had miraculous recovery speed on jumpshots even in the halfcourt setting. Scrubs like Mike Wilks could reject Stephon Marbury even if beaten to spot.
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Postby Riot on Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:07 am

In dynasty mode, for the scouting players. Is it realistic? I mean, are players coming in as all-stars? Do you have to devolp some more than others, like high school players and international players vs. 4 year college players.

I hope the players aren't good like last year that were all fat, non-athletic and always one of the best players on the team.



One more thing to add:
Is the computer draft logic better? Seems to me they always draft the best player rather then drafting one of the positions they need.
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Postby sixerfan03 on Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:23 am

antwainbarbour wrote:How are the blocks? In 2004, it seemed like the CPU had miraculous recovery speed on jumpshots even in the halfcourt setting. Scrubs like Mike Wilks could reject Stephon Marbury even if beaten to spot.


I saw this on Operation Sports, so you can correct me if I'm wrong. According to what I saw, EA ended the CPU Catchup speed bug. Apparantly, EA put the code in during the 90s, to make up for the AI's terrible defense. They found the code and deleted it.
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Postby Ruff Ryder on Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:43 am

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antwainbarbour wrote:How are the blocks? In 2004, it seemed like the CPU had miraculous recovery speed on jumpshots even in the halfcourt setting. Scrubs like Mike Wilks could reject Stephon Marbury even if beaten to spot.


I saw this on Operation Sports, so you can correct me if I'm wrong. According to what I saw, EA ended the CPU Catchup speed bug. Apparantly, EA put the code in during the 90s, to make up for the AI's terrible defense. They found the code and deleted it.

He answered the recovery speed question. It is gone!!!! :D


1.) Gameplay issue, minor thing-Do guys like Kobe, T-Mac, VC have shooting styles alike? Like the fall aways and fadeaways like that, and guys like Allan Houston or Ray Allen have perfect shot forms?

2.)Cutscenes-What are the cutscenes like? How do players react to fouls or different calls?

3.) Can you create a prospect?

4.) Are there more shoes in 2005 than 2004?

5.) Is the free agent bug still present? If you make an offer to a free agent, do you have to wait to get the response back on your pda? Can he be signed by another team after your offer or is he automatically on your team? Is there a meter or something that tells the interest in your offer?

6.) Is the USA team in the game? You didn't quite state if it was directly.

It's hard trying to stay off of the gameplay questions. :oops:
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Postby Silky Smooth Vlade on Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:49 am

ruffryder8 wrote:
It's hard trying to stay off of the gameplay questions. :oops:


Sure is. I think we're all waiting anxiously for Shanes next review.
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Postby Andrew on Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:59 am

Thanks for the update Shane. (Y)
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Postby GordonBulls on Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:08 pm

Is the bug still there, when the 1st year of the dynasty, the league leaders in points will be acurrate, like the leader avg. 30 or so, but after year 1 in the dynasty, the league leader in points average is 19. Is that bug fixed?
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Postby thaKEAF on Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:22 pm

I was thinking about not buying NBA Live 2005, but this topic got me hyped for it. Dynasty (My favorite part of sports games) sounds really good and I can't wait to get my hands on it, but there's a few questions I have, you don't have to answer them all because I know you might be pressed for time or have alot of more questions to answer.

1.) Do the graphics look ALOT better or just a little better? The graphics in Live 04 were horrid so I wanted to know did these graphics resemble them.

2.) Will the rating system be like it was in Live 04? (Extremely low ratings)

3.) Was there any music? And if so can you tell us who the artists were?

4.) Does it still make that "BOOM!" sound when you dunk?

5.) In dynasty do all the rookies look alike (ex: In Live 04 all of them had fros)?

6.) Do they still have the Inside Stuff magazines?

7.) On the menu when you said it shows slideshows of players, were they in-game or pictures of the real players?
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Postby Riot on Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:25 pm

he said he didnt play all-star mode, he skipped over it.
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Postby thaKEAF on Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:28 pm

Oh, I'll edit that one out then.

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Postby e.z.o on Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:45 pm

thnx for the post mr.shane

id like to know if we can trade draft picks all year around.
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Postby DANet on Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:19 pm

Sauru wrote:3. Does the dunk contest/3 point shoot out go like the real nba in which they only have 6 dunkers and 8 shooters?


Mr. Shane wrote:Again, I didn't try it during the actual all-star weekend in the dynasty, but in the mode, it's 4 dunkers and 8 three point shooters. The dunkers is cut down, probably because it doesn't move as fast or something. I really couldn't tell you why they only have 4 dunkers.


Actually the dunk competition only had 4 competitors last year...Jason Richardson (G.State), Fred Jones (Indiana), Ricky Davis (Boston), Chris Anderson (Denver) (Y).
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Postby JasonLin on Mon Aug 09, 2004 1:48 pm

How is the post game? I know it's an early build, there aren't many new animations in the game you played but did they say there willl be totally reworked post game and animations?

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Postby bkprince23 on Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:05 pm

once again thanx for the great update
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Postby ratman on Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:05 pm

seems like you have a ton of questions to answer shane!!

since i was at the summit also, let me see if i can help you out with the questions....by the way, this is eric.

JasonLin wrote:How is the post game? I know it's an early build, there aren't many new animations in the game you played but did they say there willl be totally reworked post game and animations?

Thanks


the post play from my experience was a little better than last year, but the producers said that they were still working on it, so we didnt really get a great idea of the post play yet.

as you guys have read elsewhere the cpu catch up speed has been killed!! i was sooo excited to see this. that elimination also helps ball movment and the midrange game.

ruffryder8 wrote:
sixerfan03 wrote:
antwainbarbour wrote:How are the blocks? In 2004, it seemed like the CPU had miraculous recovery speed on jumpshots even in the halfcourt setting. Scrubs like Mike Wilks could reject Stephon Marbury even if beaten to spot.



1.) Gameplay issue, minor thing-Do guys like Kobe, T-Mac, VC have shooting styles alike? Like the fall aways and fadeaways like that, and guys like Allan Houston or Ray Allen have perfect shot forms?


4.) Are there more shoes in 2005 than 2004?

5.) Is the free agent bug still present? If you make an offer to a free agent, do you have to wait to get the response back on your pda? Can he be signed by another team after your offer or is he automatically on your team? Is there a meter or something that tells the interest in your offer?

6.) Is the USA team in the game? You didn't quite state if it was directly.

It's hard trying to stay off of the gameplay questions. :oops:


There are i think 4 different styles of shooting in the game itself...of course the guys at EA would love to incorporate more, but that is a hardware issue, and they just dont have the space to add anymore right now.

i dunno if there are more shoes or not....for you foot fetish guys, there are about 150 shoes...dunno which ones exactly so dont ask!

as for the FA, they said that there will no longer be stars signing for the minimum on cpu teams, i dunno if that is the bug you are talking about. As far as the PDA goes, yes you have to wait for a reply, and the same is true for trades during the season, you must wait for a reply. this is done so you must manage your time and so you cant just trade away your whole roster in the first few days of the season, cuz thats just unrealistic. time was added as a factor for FA and trades, because that is the way it works in the nba...you must wait for replies.

Lastly, as far as i could see i dont think the usa team is on there, but perhaps they could add that in the late stages of the game. they did have european allstars team and a international all star team.

sorry if the post is sooo damn long!

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Postby JasonLin on Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:13 pm

Sorry I really want to know one more answer~~

What about the player sliding issue? Someone said they had fixed it, the players won't slide on the court anymore, how did you feel about that in the build? Did EA say anything about that?

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Postby StevenK on Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:25 pm

Thanks for the Dynasty write up. I'm disappointed the Owner stuff in Madden wasn't included and a mag like SI in NCAA wasn't in there, but the PDA sounds interesting. I do have one DYNASTY related question:

You said you could view the status of your coaching and medical staff. Does this mean you can hire assistant coaches and medical staffs who specialize in certain areas like in Madden?
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Postby Ruff Ryder on Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:26 pm

ratman wrote:seems like you have a ton of questions to answer shane!!

since i was at the summit also, let me see if i can help you out with the questions....by the way, this is eric.

JasonLin wrote:How is the post game? I know it's an early build, there aren't many new animations in the game you played but did they say there willl be totally reworked post game and animations?

Thanks


the post play from my experience was a little better than last year, but the producers said that they were still working on it, so we didnt really get a great idea of the post play yet.

as you guys have read elsewhere the cpu catch up speed has been killed!! i was sooo excited to see this. that elimination also helps ball movment and the midrange game.

ruffryder8 wrote:
sixerfan03 wrote:
antwainbarbour wrote:How are the blocks? In 2004, it seemed like the CPU had miraculous recovery speed on jumpshots even in the halfcourt setting. Scrubs like Mike Wilks could reject Stephon Marbury even if beaten to spot.



1.) Gameplay issue, minor thing-Do guys like Kobe, T-Mac, VC have shooting styles alike? Like the fall aways and fadeaways like that, and guys like Allan Houston or Ray Allen have perfect shot forms?


4.) Are there more shoes in 2005 than 2004?

5.) Is the free agent bug still present? If you make an offer to a free agent, do you have to wait to get the response back on your pda? Can he be signed by another team after your offer or is he automatically on your team? Is there a meter or something that tells the interest in your offer?

6.) Is the USA team in the game? You didn't quite state if it was directly.

It's hard trying to stay off of the gameplay questions. :oops:


There are i think 4 different styles of shooting in the game itself...of course the guys at EA would love to incorporate more, but that is a hardware issue, and they just dont have the space to add anymore right now.

i dunno if there are more shoes or not....for you foot fetish guys, there are about 150 shoes...dunno which ones exactly so dont ask!

as for the FA, they said that there will no longer be stars signing for the minimum on cpu teams, i dunno if that is the bug you are talking about. As far as the PDA goes, yes you have to wait for a reply, and the same is true for trades during the season, you must wait for a reply. this is done so you must manage your time and so you cant just trade away your whole roster in the first few days of the season, cuz thats just unrealistic. time was added as a factor for FA and trades, because that is the way it works in the nba...you must wait for replies.

Lastly, as far as i could see i dont think the usa team is on there, but perhaps they could add that in the late stages of the game. they did have european allstars team and a international all star team.

sorry if the post is sooo damn long!

peace
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Thanks for the info...don't spoil the gameplay secrets before shane does. :D
Also, if you think your post is sooo damn long, look at Shanes first post. :D
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Postby Andrew on Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:38 pm

Given the subject, long posts are certainly welcome. :)
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Postby Wall St. Peon on Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:32 pm

Hey Devin and Eric, thank god you showed up. :D

On the SLam Dunk contestants, I've missed like the last four or five contests, so I have no idea about 'em aside from the winners. ;)

I'll fill in the questions that weren't answered by Eric (thank you a lot man, hope your flight went well and you had fun with Denise and the bunch ;)).

How are the blocks? In 2004, it seemed like the CPU had miraculous recovery speed on jumpshots even in the halfcourt setting. Scrubs like Mike Wilks could reject Stephon Marbury even if beaten to spot.


Blocks are reduced significantly because the speed bug is gone. Oh, and the operation sports stuff mentioned? Go read that, the guy took notes and is hardcore into this, so his preview is probably better than mine.

In dynasty mode, for the scouting players. Is it realistic? I mean, are players coming in as all-stars? Do you have to devolp some more than others, like high school players and international players vs. 4 year college players.


It seems realistic, in the little bit I played. With the 10th pick, I picked a guy who was 65 overall, a point guard, and he's better than Alvin Williams (or as good as), so that's a great start for a first year player. They aren't fat, their bodies seem much more proportioned, and because of the varied ability of the create a player, they look vastly different.
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Postby Wall St. Peon on Mon Aug 09, 2004 3:45 pm

Hey Devin and Eric, thank god you showed up. :D

On the SLam Dunk contestants, I've missed like the last four or five contests, so I have no idea about 'em aside from the winners. ;)

I'll fill in the questions that weren't answered by Eric (thank you a lot man, hope your flight went well and you had fun with Denise and the bunch ;)).

How are the blocks? In 2004, it seemed like the CPU had miraculous recovery speed on jumpshots even in the halfcourt setting. Scrubs like Mike Wilks could reject Stephon Marbury even if beaten to spot.


Blocks are reduced significantly because the speed bug is gone. Oh, and the operation sports stuff mentioned? Go read that, the guy took notes and is hardcore into this, so his preview is probably better than mine.

In dynasty mode, for the scouting players. Is it realistic? I mean, are players coming in as all-stars? Do you have to devolp some more than others, like high school players and international players vs. 4 year college players.


It seems realistic, in the little bit I played. With the 10th pick, I picked a guy who was 65 overall, a point guard, and he's better than Alvin Williams (or as good as), so that's a great start for a first year player. They aren't fat, their bodies seem much more proportioned, and because of the varied ability of the create a player, they look vastly different.

Is the computer draft logic better? Seems to me they always draft the best player rather then drafting one of the positions they need.


I honestly don't know.

1.) Gameplay issue, minor thing-Do guys like Kobe, T-Mac, VC have shooting styles alike? Like the fall aways and fadeaways like that, and guys like Allan Houston or Ray Allen have perfect shot forms?


Four shooting styles, like I think Eric said, so there are different ones. In three point contest, there are something like 10 or 15 different, but that is only in the three point contest.

2.)Cutscenes-What are the cutscenes like? How do players react to fouls or different calls?


You know, I really don't remember many in-game. Eric, Devin? The ones for All-Star were cool, and the pregame were the same shoot-around stuff.

3.) Can you create a prospect?


Maybe, but I don't think so. They might have the option to put a created player in the draft pool, but I didn't get all the way through the create a player to find out.

Is the bug still there, when the 1st year of the dynasty, the league leaders in points will be acurrate, like the leader avg. 30 or so, but after year 1 in the dynasty, the league leader in points average is 19. Is that bug fixed?


Yes, but that's only because the ratings haven't been reworked. The first seasons stats were screwy too, and I said something about that, of course, and they said that ratings were the last thing they'd do.

1.) Do the graphics look ALOT better or just a little better? The graphics in Live 04 were horrid so I wanted to know did these graphics resemble them.


Tons better! The faces look great, best faces they've ever done for the game. Not saying much, but at the same time, it is. ;) The lighting appears to be better. Shoes are still kind of low quality, but DaNet can take care of that. ;)

.) Was there any music? And if so can you tell us who the artists were?


Of course...but I can't remember who all was in it. I think mostly hip hop, and it was better than this years.

4.) Does it still make that "BOOM!" sound when you dunk?


The trashed all the sound and started from scratch, so no.

5.) In dynasty do all the rookies look alike (ex: In Live 04 all of them had fros)?

6.) Do they still have the Inside Stuff magazines?


No to both.

7.) On the menu when you said it shows slideshows of players, were they in-game or pictures of the real players?


Real.

What about the player sliding issue? Someone said they had fixed it, the players won't slide on the court anymore, how did you feel about that in the build? Did EA say anything about that?


I noticed it a bit, but it wasn't too bad, imo.

You said you could view the status of your coaching and medical staff. Does this mean you can hire assistant coaches and medical staffs who specialize in certain areas like in Madden?


No, but they'd like to add that stuff sometime. It's a GM mode, not an owner mode, and the owner would take care of the stuff like that. The assistant coaches can't be hired, but they're just 'there.' The coaching stuff is basically telling you where you rank in the power rankings and other things like that. The medical staff tells about injuries and recoveries, and they suggest things like a training facility or something like that.

I'll be starting in on the gameplay right now...
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