Things About the Ratings I Can and Can't Understand........

by **SonnyDano** on Sat Sep 25, 2004 11:22 pm

^^^if you make a significant change in one slider the overalls will rise. so say for example, tj ford is a 60, and his speed is only 70, if you move his speed to 84, his overall will then be around 62.

by **Yaso_Kuul** on Sun Sep 26, 2004 7:20 pm

Thats what I know, but I want to change for example Nowitzki from 85 to 90 and do it just with one slider and don't have to increase speed, strength and all other ratings ~5 points individually.

by **SoLow** on Mon Sep 27, 2004 11:51 am

i cannot believe that jameer nelson( the best PG in college basketball last year) is rated at a 52 :roll:

not even bron and carmello were rated this bad last year when they were rookies(even thou they were the 2 best ones.....but so is jameer....i have no idea y he went # 20 in the draft...prolly his height :lol:

)so this is one thing that has to be changed

by **Nick** on Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:01 pm

Sauru wrote:oddly enough i never change the ratings in live at all. i personally always just play the game the way they shipped it even if i see something i dont like(for instance al jefferson only being a 55 overall with under 40 fg). i guess one of the main advantages to being a pc player is i could just download a edited roster and use that but i never seem to do this, always play the game the way EA intended. am i crazy?

Yes, EA have no idea what they're doing.

Got a bit of work to do Andrew.

by **sixerfan03** on Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:25 am

zaniac07 wrote:i cannot believe that jameer nelson( the best PG in college basketball last year) is rated at a 52 not even bron and carmello were rated this bad last year when they were rookies(even thou they were the 2 best ones.....but so is jameer....i have no idea y he went # 20 in the draft...prolly his height )so this is one thing that has to be changed

For comparison, his overall is the same as Willie Green.

His 65 speed is slower than Aaron McKie, Corliss Williamson, Kenny Thomas, and Willie Green.

Bluesky · by **Andrew** on Tue Sep 28, 2004 11:10 am

Nick wrote:Yes, EA have no idea what they're doing.

Got a bit of work to do Andrew.

Possibly, but I'm still not convinced those ratings are from the finished product.

by **Sauru** on Tue Sep 28, 2004 11:55 am

sometimes a player does not transition well from college to the nba. maybe thats why jameer's rateing is so low. just cause you were the best in college does not mean you will be god in the nba. there have been plenty of great college players who were complete busts in the nba. maybe they predict him to be one.

by **fgrep15** on Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:07 pm

Sauru wrote:sometimes a player does not transition well from college to the nba. maybe thats why jameer's rateing is so low. just cause you were the best in college does not mean you will be god in the nba. there have been plenty of great college players who were complete busts in the nba. maybe they predict him to be one.

Jameer was the highest rated rookie seen so far in ESPN, he got a 75:

by **SonnyDano** on Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:10 pm

eapn's ratings are vastly different from live's though. a 75 in espn is like a 62-68 in live.

by **fgrep15** on Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:11 pm

SonnyDano wrote:eapn's ratings are vastly different from live's though. a 75 in espn is like a 62-68 in live.

Yes, but that's not the thing, it's that he got higher than Okafor, Deng, Childress, Josh Smith, and Luke Jackson

by **Sauru** on Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:41 pm

i dont think he will be the best rookie myself so that rating seems a bit off to me.

by **sixerfan03** on Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:45 am

Sauru wrote:sometimes a player does not transition well from college to the nba. maybe thats why jameer's rateing is so low. just cause you were the best in college does not mean you will be god in the nba. there have been plenty of great college players who were complete busts in the nba. maybe they predict him to be one.

I agree. But why would he become slow? The NBA has a combine for rookies, and he was one of the quickest players.

by **fgrep15** on Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:59 am

sixerfan03 wrote:
Sauru wrote:sometimes a player does not transition well from college to the nba. maybe thats why jameer's rateing is so low. just cause you were the best in college does not mean you will be god in the nba. there have been plenty of great college players who were complete busts in the nba. maybe they predict him to be one.

I agree. But why would he become slow? The NBA has a combine for rookies, and he was one of the quickest players.

That's what I'm saying, Josh Childressi s the fastest one of the ones I looked at :roll:

....Ben Gordon, Devin Harris, JR Smith etc all magically lost their quickness in the NBA transition

by **Sauru** on Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:53 pm

oh i fully agree that some stats would not change. like speed for instance and free throw shooting, however alot would. stuff like fg and 3pt would drop since the defense is better. rebounds would probably drop. stuff like that.

by **fgrep15** on Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:17 pm

Sauru wrote:oh i fully agree that some stats would not change. like speed for instance and free throw shooting, however alot would. stuff like fg and 3pt would drop since the defense is better. rebounds would probably drop. stuff like that.

Actually things that remain constant from the NBA to pro's are offensive rebounding, for the most part defensive rebounding, and shot blocking, that's for big men who rebound through skill not just because they're tall in college [so it excludes Christian Laettner etc].

Shooting doesn't get worse, the player just can't get their shot off as easily, but shooting ratings should drop about 10. In a College game, Ben Gordon or Devin Harris would have 80+ shooting ratings, so you'd expect something in the 70's, but nope, that's not how it is :cry:

by **Matt** on Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:21 pm

naturally the 3pnt rating would change

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