reason for no cut-scenes this year?

Let's be honest here, the reason why espn had so many cut scenes last year was to show off their graphics and how much detail they put into them. So do you think the reason Live didn't put cut scenes in it because they weren't very proud of their graphical improvement? Just something to think about, not trying to start anything.... I mean If i didn't think my game was up to par graphically, the last thing i would want is a scene that zoomed in and u could see all the detail or lack of detail in the player models, am i wrong? What do you guys think?

Let's be honest here, ESPN put all those cutscenes to cover the fact that there gameplay was inferior. Do you think that's why ESPN put so many cutscenes? I'm glad Live took those out--they got very boring fast. I would skip right through them anyways.

Let's be honest here, the reason why espn had so many cut scenes last year was to show off their graphics and how much detail they put into them. So do you think the reason Live didn't put cut scenes in it because they weren't very proud of their graphical improvement? Just something to think about, not trying to start anything.... I mean If i didn't think my game was up to par graphically, the last thing i would want is a scene that zoomed in and u could see all the detail or lack of detail in the player models, am i wrong? What do you guys think?

sho, it sure seems like you and BigBen 2K3 put a heck of alot of stock into cutscenes. My guess is that with all the new additions there wasn't any time nor the motivation to focus on such a trivial aspect....

Like I told Benjamin, who cares? How long does the average gamer go without completely skipping them? One, maybe two weeks? I don't find cutscenes to have the least bit of importance.....

- animations
- franchise mode
- gameplay
- graphics

That's all I'm looking for from any sports title, not cutscenes. But hey, we're all different, right?

[sarcasm] Dre, don't you know that how good the graphics, and cutscenes are the only thing that matters??? [end sarcasm/]

They have done a lot work. So i guess they just hadn't time for cut scenes. Well anyway he promised they will do them in later versions. What about me, I don't really care about those scenes. I need a real gameplay, real season and good graphics. Come on! This year we have already a great game! If you really need those cut scenes you should just wait a little bit. I mean just a few years:)

[sarcasm] Dre, don't you know that how good the graphics, and cutscenes are the only thing that matters??? [end sarcasm/]

Of course! Who the heck cares about franchise mode or wretched gameplay? Dammit all I want is the most realistic afro in the history of sports videogames and plenty of close-ups so I can bask in it's nappy glory! [equally sarcastic as well as patronizing]

Let's be honest here, ESPN put all those cutscenes to cover the fact that there gameplay was inferior. Do you think that's why ESPN put so many cutscenes? I'm glad Live took those out--they got very boring fast. I would skip right through them anyways.

The gameplay was great...until Shaq gets the ball and you try to post him up.

The Gameplay is on the fly....OR something....I like the dunking....*RUNS AWAY NOW*

(Talking about ESPN)

Yea i think the reason the cut scenes are gone is purely a time issue, they ran out of it... and at some stage they decided (and rightfully so) that their gamers would rather have more features than cut scenes that we do skip after a short time.

Good job EA, priorities look spot on.

so your telling me if you ever played nba2k4, and the quarter was over and they had a zoomed in cut scene of the players going to the bench with an espn stat overlay talking about the stand out players in that quarter and it looks just like a real tv parting shot before they go to commerical, that's not cool to you guys? I guess i'm totally opposite on a lot of things. When it comes to cut-scenes, graphics and realism, i just differ tremendously from a lot of you. I like that stuff in a game, call me crazy

so your telling me if you ever played nba2k4, and the quarter was over and they had a zoomed in cut scene of the players going to the bench with an espn stat overlay talking about the stand out players in that quarter and it looks just like a real tv parting shot before they go to commerical, that's not cool to you guys? I guess i'm totally opposite on a lot of things. When it comes to cut-scenes, graphics and realism, i just differ tremendously from a lot of you. I like that stuff in a game, call me crazy

Live's never had that, so I wouldn't miss it--the only cutscenes i'd miss are the Championship ones. Hopefully they kept those in and took out the ingame ones.

people like different eye candy, if that floats ur boat then that's you. My eye candy is the fact that i can patch any player to look like there real life counterpart.

so your telling me if you ever played nba2k4, and the quarter was over and they had a zoomed in cut scene of the players going to the bench with an espn stat overlay talking about the stand out players in that quarter and it looks just like a real tv parting shot before they go to commerical, that's not cool to you guys? I guess i'm totally opposite on a lot of things. When it comes to cut-scenes, graphics and realism, i just differ tremendously from a lot of you. I like that stuff in a game, call me crazy

Live's never had that, so I wouldn't miss it--the only cutscenes i'd miss are the Championship ones. Hopefully they kept those in and took out the ingame ones.

people like different eye candy, if that floats ur boat then that's you. My eye candy is the fact that i can patch any player to look like there real life counterpart.

ok get ready for everyone to pissed off at me again.....
patching is another word for fixing something. If you had to edit something to make it look better that means EA didn't do their job, so what your saying is that if any game sucked, but u could patch it, u would like it. I don't understand you PC people. PC are boring to play sports games on and yes i've tried it. they are no fun and they don't look better than any basketball game i have on my hdtv on xbox, i promise you on that, and i don't have to fix or patch anything to make it look better hahahhahaha

ok get ready for everyone to pissed off at me again.....
patching is another word for fixing something. If you had to edit something to make it look better that means EA didn't do their job, so what your saying is that if any game sucked, but u could patch it, u would like it. I don't understand you PC people. PC are boring to play sports games on and yes i've tried it. they are no fun and they don't look better than any basketball game i have on my hdtv on xbox, i promise you on that, and i don't have to fix or patch anything to make it look better hahahhahaha

Speaking for my PC brethren, the patches just aren't meant to "fix" things though they can serve that purpose. They also add a whole new level to the gaming experience.

You're a "Graphics Guru" right? Okay, let's say that somehow you and I had the ability to patch on our Xboxes as well and Andrew created a patch where we could have NBA players wearing Sean John, Du-Rags, "Iced-Out" Chains, and earrings, you wouldn't patch also?

I don't like gaming on my PC either, but who are we to tell folks that their preference is wack? I suggest you read this post I wrote just for you:

Hi NLSC, after reading quite a few posts as well as "talking" to alot of members here it seems as if there are 2 types of NBA Live fans. Console and PC.

For PC guys, there's no other choice imaginable. Who wouldn't want the option of having better graphics and patches galore made by our resident experts who devote their time and efforts to make the game better?

The question is seemingly a no-brainer to a PC guy who can't fathom why any self-respecting "Liver" would choose the console version over that of the PC.

For console guys, they'll admit that he graphics are better and concede that patches do in fact increase the replay value but just don't like gaming on their PC. They prefer the "feel" of a console and the accoutrements that go with it.

Who's right? Who's wrong? No one is wrong, we're just different people with different tastes where gaming is concerned. Let's please stop putting each others likes and dislikes down and acting like our way is the only way and everyone else is either dumb or inferior.

As a console gamer myself, I respect the fact that a cat chooses to game on his PC and don't see this as any detriment to meaningful, constructive conversation between us where NBA Live is concerned.

We all have basically the same complaints and wishes for our beloved game despite the differences is hardware. Let's not be close-minded like certain individuals on this board who can't fathom anyone not agreeing with him. Whether we choose a PC, XBox, PS2 or Gamecube should not be the issue, the issue is that we're all members of the NLSC because we love playing Live, no matter how we go about doing that.

Now, here's to hoping that we learn some tolerance and respect for each other's differences! Peace, Dre.

patching is another word for fixing something

Not in all cases, patching can also make things look better. My attention to detail might be more precise than your preception. If Ben Wallace is wearing his blue and white And 1's --I want my cyber Ben to reflect that change. I won't even get into the argument on graphics --console vs PC again--I think it's a given which has better graphics--u can tell or make urself believe that ur TV will have better graphics than my PC with an ATI X800 Pro video card.

Maybe adding these so called cutscenes is a way for ESPN to cover up there gameplay issues. But gameplay isn't that important to you. NBA Live will have a perfect mix of graphics and gameplay--while ESPN will be fun to look at. YAY! Ben Wallace's is sweating--HOLY SHIT Ben Wallace is SWEATING!! This is the best basketball game ever! BEN phuckinWALLACE is sweating!Rejoice!

did they take out ALL of the cutscenes? cuz there are several of them which are pretty interesting such as the game-winning buzzer beater ones and the ones when a championship is won. or are those not called cutscenes

ok get ready for everyone to pissed off at me again.....
patching is another word for fixing something. If you had to edit something to make it look better that means EA didn't do their job, so what your saying is that if any game sucked, but u could patch it, u would like it. I don't understand you PC people. PC are boring to play sports games on and yes i've tried it. they are no fun and they don't look better than any basketball game i have on my hdtv on xbox, i promise you on that, and i don't have to fix or patch anything to make it look better hahahhahaha

Speaking for my PC brethren, the patches just aren't meant to "fix" things though they can serve that purpose. They also add a whole new level to the gaming experience.

You're a "Graphics Guru" right? Okay, let's say that somehow you and I had the ability to patch on our Xboxes as well and Andrew created a patch where we could have NBA players wearing Sean John, Du-Rags, "Iced-Out" Chains, and earrings, you wouldn't patch also?

I don't like gaming on my PC either, but who are we to tell folks that their preference is wack? I suggest you read this post I wrote just for you:

Hi NLSC, after reading quite a few posts as well as "talking" to alot of members here it seems as if there are 2 types of NBA Live fans. Console and PC.

For PC guys, there's no other choice imaginable. Who wouldn't want the option of having better graphics and patches galore made by our resident experts who devote their time and efforts to make the game better?

The question is seemingly a no-brainer to a PC guy who can't fathom why any self-respecting "Liver" would choose the console version over that of the PC.

For console guys, they'll admit that he graphics are better and concede that patches do in fact increase the replay value but just don't like gaming on their PC. They prefer the "feel" of a console and the accoutrements that go with it.

Who's right? Who's wrong? No one is wrong, we're just different people with different tastes where gaming is concerned. Let's please stop putting each others likes and dislikes down and acting like our way is the only way and everyone else is either dumb or inferior.

As a console gamer myself, I respect the fact that a cat chooses to game on his PC and don't see this as any detriment to meaningful, constructive conversation between us where NBA Live is concerned.

We all have basically the same complaints and wishes for our beloved game despite the differences is hardware. Let's not be close-minded like certain individuals on this board who can't fathom anyone not agreeing with him. Whether we choose a PC, XBox, PS2 or Gamecube should not be the issue, the issue is that we're all members of the NLSC because we love playing Live, no matter how we go about doing that.

Now, here's to hoping that we learn some tolerance and respect for each other's differences! Peace, Dre.

k, i'll give you that, that could be fun to do weird stuff like that if i was into that stuff, it kinda just reminds me of those stupid cheat codes on nba jam where u can wear a mask and stuff like that, but too each their own i guess....

patching is another word for fixing something

Not in all cases, patching can also make things look better. My attention to detail might be more precise than your preception. If Ben Wallace is wearing his blue and white And 1's --I want my cyber Ben to reflect that change. I won't even get into the argument on graphics --console vs PC again--I think it's a given which has better graphics--u can tell or make urself believe that ur TV will have better graphics than my PC with an ATI X800 Pro video card.

Maybe adding these so called cutscenes is a way for ESPN to cover up there gameplay issues. But gameplay isn't that important to you. NBA Live will have a perfect mix of graphics and gameplay--while ESPN will be fun to look at. YAY! Ben Wallace's is sweating--HOLY SHIT Ben Wallace is SWEATING!! This is the best basketball game ever! BEN phuckinWALLACE is sweating!Rejoice!

yeah, u just keep talking that trash and see which game looks and plays better again for the umpteenth time in everyone's eyes but u guys.....we'll see. Hey if live looks awesome and plays awesome, i'll be the first one on here to say so, last year i told everyone that i was suprised on how much better the graphics were than the year before, but it still didn't look as real as espn, and that's why i like espn better last year, i just hope it looks better, i'm downloading the gameplay videos right now of live and i'll give you my honest opinion afterwards of them....

ESPN had better graphics than Live...yes. But you act like Live's graphics we're horrible, in game during the gameplay the grahpics looked similar to me and when I'm intune with the game I don't see that big of a difference graphics wise. NBA Live had the better gameplay though by far which is why I thought it was a better game last year. The only year I take ESPN (SEGA) over Live is 2003 but that was because 2003 blowed bad.

ESPN had better graphics than Live...yes. But you act like Live's graphics we're horrible, in game during the gameplay the grahpics looked similar to me and when I'm intune with the game I don't see that big of a difference graphics wise. NBA Live had the better gameplay though by far which is why I thought it was a better game last year. The only year I take ESPN (SEGA) over Live is 2003 but that was because 2003 blowed bad.

Riot, don't even talk to this cat about Live's graphics! This is the guy who drew an analogy with Live's graphics to Nintendo's "Double Dribble" circa 1988!

my understanding was that they only took out the dynasty cut scenes, and left the ingame ones there...

Patching isn't all about fixing - it can be about enhancing and updating. Roster updates save people the trouble of making trades and creating players themselves. Cyberface patches replace the created player appearance and enhance those roster patches.

Roster patches can add classic teams and special rosters that EA cannot legally include in the game. They can be throwback rosters (PLUG like my 95/96 roster featuring the work of many talented graphics patchers END PLUG). It's more than simply fixing graphical problems.

We've all seen the screenshots for NBA Live 2005, the graphics look much better than NBA Live 2004. I don't think the lack of cutscenes are because EA are not proud of the graphics in NBA Live 2005. If a bunch of three second cutscenes that most people skip after a while is the price we have to pay this year for a major overhaul to Dynasty Mode, then most of us are going to say so be it.

One final thing. I know I've said it before, but I'll say it again. This forum allows freedom of speech. You're free to have any opinions you like and you don't have to agree with everybody else. That would be boring. But it really seems you're only here to bash everything the NBA Live production team does, trash the NBA Live series and promote ESPN's title. If that is your agenda, I suggest you find another board because like or not, this is an NBA Live fansite and we are going to have positive opinions about the game. We are going to biased, and we're going to enjoy the game as we see fit.

So like I said in another thread: Please, give it a rest.

sho, how are you doing?

still finding how good your ESPN is?

you win, the ESPN is the best, OK?

stop posting this kind of topic please, damn boring.

ESPN had better graphics than Live...yes. But you act like Live's graphics we're horrible, in game during the gameplay the grahpics looked similar to me and when I'm intune with the game I don't see that big of a difference graphics wise. NBA Live had the better gameplay though by far which is why I thought it was a better game last year. The only year I take ESPN (SEGA) over Live is 2003 but that was because 2003 blowed bad.

it's no way to convince this guy that someone believe ESPN & Live graphics are similar.

It's deep in his heart that ESPN's graphics is 100 millions times better than Live's (Note: Xbox only, not included the ultimate graphic in PC)

personally i think the cut scenes are gone so they could use that space in better places, like all star weekend, deeper dynasty, better gameplay, and so on. maybe espn will have even more cut scenes this year, infact maybe they will have nothing but cutscenes. then it would totally rape live in terms of graphics which of course would make it 100 times better right?


loseing cutscenes is no big deal to me. infact if no one mentioned they were dropped i would not even have noticed. i skipped them always. i buy games to play them, not watch them.

I think it was just a time thing, because you can always make your graphics look better in cut-scenes, so I don't think it's a graphical thing, but who knows.....

cut scenes and graphics are used to sell games to newbs.