Live 2005 Players Edit's

[fgrep15]

I'm going to be doing edits for the players as we already know it's needed with Devin Harris' 48 FG rating, Dalmbert's 34 speed rating etc....

So for those who don't know about some players or just don't want to put the work into doing it themselves, I'll be doing them as soon as the game drops

[The Future]

kk thats cool man..im sure you'll be getting A LOT of requests.

I have a question though. Im new(wasn't here for the realse of 04)so, did you do this for 04. If so, how did people like the raiting adjustments? Did they make them more reaslitc players?

[UconnDynasty]

I'd leave EA's ratings the way they are. What stats do you have to show that harris is a better shooter than that? he hasn't played in the nba yet. How can you prove dalembert is faster than that, there is no stat for speed. They upgraded him from a 35 to a 53, that's plenty.

[HuskiesCeltics]

Is this for the PC or PS2?

[durvasa]

I'd leave EA's ratings the way they are. What stats do you have to show that harris is a better shooter than that? he hasn't played in the nba yet. How can you prove dalembert is faster than that, there is no stat for speed. They upgraded him from a 35 to a 53, that's plenty.

Also, how do we know how ratings translate? For instance, a 50 in '05 might not be the same as a 50 in '04. I think its a waste of time for people to work on edits before they've played the game for a while.

[Silky Smooth Vlade]

I'd like edits to some of the superstars, not just young unproven guys that you feel should be jacked up. I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I remember looking at the screens from OS of all the rosters and ratings, and I saw many, many injustices regarding some of the better players in the game.

[SonnyDano]

jason kidd always has an overrated jumpshot and primacy. his high rating should only be because of his passing, ball handling, speed, quickness, rebounding, off and def awareness, durability, stamina, and steal ratings. his fg, and 3pt should be low, like around 50. he's usualy one of the few players i edit (like 5 or 6).

[fgrep15]

I'd leave EA's ratings the way they are. What stats do you have to show that harris is a better shooter than that? he hasn't played in the nba yet. How can you prove dalembert is faster than that, there is no stat for speed. They upgraded him from a 35 to a 53, that's plenty.

Also, how do we know how ratings translate? For instance, a 50 in '05 might not be the same as a 50 in '04. I think its a waste of time for people to work on edits before they've played the game for a while.

Like I said, I'll start as soon as the game drops.

I'd leave EA's ratings the way they are. What stats do you have to show that harris is a better shooter than that? he hasn't played in the nba yet. How can you prove dalembert is faster than that, there is no stat for speed. They upgraded him from a 35 to a 53, that's plenty.

Let's see, I watched Devin Harris in college, also in college he shot like he knew how to shoot better than an NBA center. In draft camp they said he had NBA 3 range, a 38 rating means his range is like 20 feet. Harris also shot 37.3% from college three, 79% from the line, and his scouting report on ESPN [not even on of the better ones]:

Scouting Report: High-paced combo guard with an assertive mentality ... A difference-maker, he changes the flow of the game ... Plays the game at a lightening pace ... Highly mobile with the rock ... Keeps turnovers to a minimum ... Has great stop-start speed ... Beats defenders off the dribble consistently, especially on the wing ... Doesn't shy from contact in traffic despite lack of bulk ... Sometimes settles too much for the pull-up ... A silky-smooth shooter ... Owns a quick release ... Gathers himself into his shot well ... Adds good rotation ... Shoots with consistency from long-range ... Cuts well off the ball ... Gets out in transition by simply beating defenders down court ... Likes to go coast-to-coast ... A big-time finisher with tremendous leaping ability ... Terrific rebounder considering his size ... Solid awareness ... Willing as a passer, and has wonderful vision ... A sneaky defender ... Likes to pick off passes ... Tries to do too much at times, however ... Has poor size at the off guard position but lacks the frame of mind to be a true point ... Good shot-blocker despite his 6-3 frame because of his quick jumping ability and long arms ... Needs to add strength.

Since when do players become worse FT shooters when going to the NBA? His rating is 67 on Free Throws, FG: 49, 3PT: 37, offensive awareness: 45, speed and quickness, 70 and 75. [11.03 lane agility]
He has a 37 inch vertical, and got a 65 jumping rating.


Samuel Dalmbert, maybe because the coach and players said it, and if you watch him he has extremely long legs and takes like 3 strides to get down the court, he's real slow.

Ben Gordon's speed is 55 [68 quickness] , and Josh Childress' is 75 [80 quickness]. In the combine, Gordon had a 11.28 sec in the lane agility test, and Childress a 11.95 sec. Luol Deng's speed and quickness are 70 and 68, and in the combine, he had an 11.46 sec, and even common sense shows that Gordon is quicker and faster. I don't think teams love PG/SG's with the quickness and speed of a slow center. Josh Childress has an 86 jump rating, and his vertical is 36 inches. Ben Gordon has a 37.5 inch vertical, but his jump rating is 70


JR Smith was in the 10's in the combine, to be exact, he had a 10.93 in lane agility, and he has a 64 Quickness and speed rating. Also Josh Childress had already been said to be a little slow to be a SG, and then he get's the highest out of all these guys
Their's many more inaccuracies like that.

Anymore things you think I'm making up?

[50first]

What stats do you have to show that harris is a better shooter than that? he hasn't played in the nba yet

have to agree with uconn. its difficult to rate a guy who hasn't played through an entire regular season yet. only because no one knows how much of an impact he will make in the nba. there are alot of guys who play a mean college game that fail to produce in the nba (flops). so you can't rate a guy on potential.

[fgrep15]

What stats do you have to show that harris is a better shooter than that? he hasn't played in the nba yet

have to agree with uconn. its difficult to rate a guy who hasn't played through an entire regular season yet. only because no one knows how much of an impact he will make in the nba. there are alot of guys who play a mean college game that fail to produce in the nba (flops). so you can't rate a guy on potential.

Yes, but when we're talking about something like shooting, how does his free throw shooting in college go down from 79 to 67 just because he came to the NBA?

He might not suceed in the league, but he won't just become a bad shooter

[50first]

Yes, but when we're talking about something like shooting, how does his free throw shooting in college go down from 79 to 67 just because he came to the NBA?

true.. but you can't predict if his freethrow numbers are going to stay consitant with the ones he produced in college. just look at tim duncan's freethrow percentage from 01-02 season compared to his 03-04 season.

[fgrep15]

Yes, but when we're talking about something like shooting, how does his free throw shooting in college go down from 79 to 67 just because he came to the NBA?

true.. but you can't predict if his freethrow numbers are going to stay consitant with the ones he produced in college. just look at tim duncan's freethrow percentage from 01-02 season compared to his 03-04 season.

I haven't heard of Devin Harris having any mental blocks when he's at the line, that's the reason for Duncan's FT inconsistency, not his shooting ability

Also what about the speed ratings, what's up with that? Childress one of the slower guys is the fastest out of all those rookies?

...anyways I'm not starting till the season starts, but then we'll see how Devin Harris shoots 67% from the line, 20% from 3PT range, becomes slower, and is unable to hit jumpers

[50first]

Also what about the speed ratings, what's up with that?

yeah i don't agree with their speed ratings. lebron and heinrick ran like turtles in live 04'.

[SergioK4L]

I'm not sure yet about editing. There are sooo many players. But if I do it, this is how I'll rate them

Franchise Players 90+
All Stars 80+
Solid Starters 70+
Good bench players 60+
Scrubs 40-50

[jasoncarter]

Are you ever gonna do them?

If so could you post them for all the teams