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Creating Yourself: How do you do it?

Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:47 am

Every year I get Live and every year I get stuck as to how I can create myself fairly, while being an effective player, but not be too good where I make the game far too easy for myself.

In other words, I don't want to create myself into the game as an 80 overall, but I don't want to walk in as a 55 overall either.

I tried limiting the points I could give myself -- say, 68 -- or averaging the lottery picks of that season. But I just found myself compromising areas where I could get away with a low rating (off rebounds, off awareness) to keep my shooting up and I could shoot well enough that I made the game too easy for myself.

So, this year I decided to try something new: Earn my ratings -- as many of them as I can anyway.

Obviously, there is no way for me to walk on to a court and figure out my offensive awareness or my steal rating without it being a matter of opinion -- and a biased one at that because I want to make myself good :wink:

I am going to be the Heat and Sf is the obvious weakness. So instead of playing at my natural position, I figured I could make myself like a point forward.

So step one of me "earning" my ratings consisted of me choosing 3 point guards (my natural position) and 3 small forwards (the position I will play in the game) that have a similar game to what I play (I have a quick first step, but am slow over distance. I am an average athlete otherwise. I shoot a lot of 3's. I can get to the bucket, but I like shooting the 3. I am a pass first, score second guy in general, but I tend to get aggressive on offense at times). The trick is, I could use 1 very good player at either position, 1 starter, and 1 bench player.

So the guys I felt fit my game at point guard were Mike Bibby (very good player), Kirk Hinrich (starter), and Bob Sura (bench). At small forward I chose Antoine Walker (very good player), Rashard Lewis (starter), and Mike Miller (bench).

So for each rating (without seeing their stats first, otherwise I will know which 3 have the highest) I choose one from each level. So, for instance, with rebounding I would choose between Bibby and Walker, then Lewis and Hinrich, and then Miller and Sura. Whichever 3 I use, I average their rating and that becomes my rating for that particular thing (obviously, you have a general idea who will have a higher rating at certain things).

But shooting is where I "earn" my rating. I have headed out the basketball court and shot the ball myself. So what I do is shoot 3 sets of 50 shots from either the free throw line, a mid-range shot (17-18 feet), and 3-point shot (NBA range).

So say I make 35-50, 41-50, and 36-50 from the foul line. I have the option to use the middle number (in this case, 36) as the base for my rating or the average of the 3 sets (in this case, 37.3). So obviously, I would pick the 37, which would in turn double to make 74. So 74 would be my FT rating.

The same applies for mid-range and 3-point shots, except I triple those values to get my rating.

So how do you guys create your own selves?

Any suggestions of how to make it more "fair"?

Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:01 am

Well I'm only good at shooting open shots and I drive a lot but I rarely finish in traffic, I usually try to draw a foul. But I've been told I am the best defender and shot blocker on my team. I normally play SG/SF but I almost always get more playing time if I need to guard someone. So I'm not really an all around player like you, but I am good on defense and usually make open shots, and if someone is in front of me I will try to drive or pass instead of try to shoot over them.

So it is hard for me too, because I am good at shooting only when I'm open, but there really is no specific rating for that. The only things I make pretty high when I create my player is shot blocking, inside scoring, defensive awareness, speed and stealing. Everything else I just try my best to make it so I'm not too great but not too bad. I don't have a created player for myself right now, but when I did he was a 68. And I think his 3 pointers were like 60-62.

So I also get stuck a lot when trying to make ratings for my player but I usually get them to work out pretty well.

Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:18 am

-|NN|-[pF]- wrote:Well I'm only good at shooting open shots and I drive a lot but I rarely finish in traffic, I usually try to draw a foul. But I've been told I am the best defender and shot blocker on my team. I normally play SG/SF but I almost always get more playing time if I need to guard someone. So I'm not really an all around player like you, but I am good on defense and usually make open shots, and if someone is in front of me I will try to drive or pass instead of try to shoot over them.

So it is hard for me too, because I am good at shooting only when I'm open, but there really is no specific rating for that. The only things I make pretty high when I create my player is shot blocking, inside scoring, defensive awareness, speed and stealing. Everything else I just try my best to make it so I'm not too great but not too bad. I don't have a created player for myself right now, but when I did he was a 68. And I think his 3 pointers were like 60-62.

So I also get stuck a lot when trying to make ratings for my player but I usually get them to work out pretty well.


Well, why not choose players who fit that mold an combine their ratings to make yours similar to what I did.

From what I am hearing, these players would seem to fit your description (remember everything is relative, so I am choosing 'very good players' based on what your skills are):

Very good players: Tayshaun Prince and Andrei Kirilenko
Starters: Doug Christie and Bruce Bowen
Bench: Shane Battier and Boris Diaw
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