REASON WHY LIVE 05 STILL BETTER THAN 2K5

[Heavenly]

Currently I own both LIVE 05 and 2K5.

Althou Live doesn,t look as great as 2K5, I still prefer it over 2K5.
Before 05, I had 95-03 on the PC (PC since 2000). Now I have PS2 and Im kind of disapointed on the graphics. Maybe because on the PC I have a big lcd monitor and a monster graphics card and now on PS2 I play on a regular old 19" TV. But dam 2K5 looks like 10 steps ahead on the same old 19" TV.

Leaving the graphics out, I think 10 man freestyle is awsome. Take a moment and stop the player your controlling and just look at the rest of the players moving and fighting for position and looking for open shots. Live is in a whole different world. 2K5 doesn,t achive this, EA is 11 steps ahead in this area. 2K5,s players move and stop, move and stop. 2k5 has great animations on the ball players, but off the ball its a dead 4 on 4.
They don,t move reallistically.

When you play 05, freestyle controls for dribbling are very precise, depending on the direction of the right analog stick you get the move you want. I noticed on 2K5, you use the right analog stick for what they called ISOMOTION (same use as freestyle) but you can push it to the right and the player would do a move, and the next time you push it to the same side, would do another, I kept trying and practicing but just dont get the same results all the time resulting in a game were I can't have full control on my a player. Hit the iso and try to continue on what the baller decides to do.

2K5 is all about scoring, hardly imposible to block shots or stop players, you just have to learn to kill the pc on scoring to win. To easy to win also.

People who just like the games for the dunks, looks and just pass and shoot for for fun might like 2K5 over 05, like the guys making reviews on most poplar game magazines and web sites. But 05 has the inside stuff. The gameplay details on and off the ball. Now the AI would take advantage on mismatches, and in rotations and picks off the ball you would wind up with the SG guarding your Center and you can just pound the ball inside with him. All this stuff produces real life situations.

Oh, Forgot to mention the dunk contest. It,s sick, this is going to be the best selling basketball game ever. No wonder Sega lowered their price a lot to compete.

You want to have fun? Play the all star game or Rookie Challenge, Dunks and Alley Oops all over the place.

You want looks. 2K5

You want great control and realistic gameplay. NBA Live 05 Rules

[XxMrLuckxX]

I have both games as well.....we are going to do a big comparison on both games. I will post it here once we do it.

[deluxxe]

i agree pretty much with everything you say.
I would aslo add this... i think NBA Live caters to a far more mature/older audience. ESPN 2K5 is a younger crowd IMO.
This is all speculation of course, but if you polled all the people that play both of these games i bet you'd find that most people under 20 play ESPN and Over 20 play Live.

[Zam Zul]

i agree pretty much with everything you say.
I would aslo add this... i think NBA Live caters to a far more mature/older audience. ESPN 2K5 is a younger crowd IMO.
This is all speculation of course, but if you polled all the people that play both of these games i bet you'd find that most people under 20 play ESPN and Over 20 play Live.

I'm under 20 and i find that offensive; I play Live. lol, j/k.

[cklitsie]

This is all speculation of course, but if you polled all the people that play both of these games i bet you'd find that most people under 20 play ESPN and Over 20 play Live.

I don't really agree on that.

[Honorable Diggler]

Certainly, your entitled to your own opinion and i respect that but consider myself a huge live fan and i am dissapointed with these year's version. I just think ESPN has a better feel for a real basketball game. Simply, the gameplay is better. Aside from the graphics, which are ten times better than live, the game is designed and looks like a real basketball game. I really thought that live was doing something different this year and other than all-star weekend(which is great) there is nothing else there. I, like many of you here, have studied the game of basketball to a pure science and as far as overall gameplay live still has not reached a good simulation. If your NOT playing basketball games for overall realism than this is the game for you. All of those animations that they have added are fine and dandy but its not enough for me. No offense but I think that Live is actually for the younger crowd who simply wants the razzle dazzle b.s. that EA continues to put out. I'm really just sick of the gameplay. It's garbage. I'm really not a live basher and up here as a real fan who wants a real game out them. But oh well sent this stlye sells they'll just keep going with it.

[-BHZMAFIA-]

After playing ESPN, I think their game is more realistic as well. You can look at my view on the game in the "Other Games" section where Gloveguy posted his ESPN 2k5 Review. I like Live more than ESPN, but if I wasn't such a big fan of Live, I think I may switched to ESPN this year.

Anyways, I'm 15, and saying that people over 20 play Live more and people under 20 player ESPN is one bad comparison. If anything I would think that people 20 or less would play Live more because in some past versions the gameplay has been pretty unrealistic and this year they improved that which I like. I still don't like to use that comparison though.

[Silky Smooth Vlade]

NBA Live is better because in ESPN 2k5 you see the same exact layup animation everytime. And the same two dunks everytime. The animations are VERY limited in 2k5. That alone makes me hate it.

[GloveGuy]

NBA Live is better because in ESPN 2k5 you see the same exact layup animation everytime. And the same two dunks everytime. The animations are VERY limited in 2k5. That alone makes me hate it.

You're wrong.

i think NBA Live caters to a far more mature/older audience. ESPN 2K5 is a younger crowd IMO.
This is all speculation of course, but if you polled all the people that play both of these games i bet you'd find that most people under 20 play ESPN and Over 20 play Live.

You. Wrong. I know many people over 20 who play ESPN. There's a 30-something year old moderator on the ESPN boards who is one of the few people I can have an intellectual discussion with on that forum.(Yeah, I'll admit it. ESPN forum doesn't compare to this one.) There are some posters who type in much better grammar than you. Lets not put judgement on specific fan bases please.

[Jay-Peso]

NBA Live is better because in ESPN 2k5 you see the same exact layup animation everytime. And the same two dunks everytime. The animations are VERY limited in 2k5. That alone makes me hate it.

You're wrong.

Actually, he's right on man. I rented it and have been playing it and I basically do the same dunks or layups everytime. I thought it was just me so I go to gamespot and read the Review article and watch the video and they said the same thing. Don't get me wrong, 2k5 has improved a lot since last year but it needs some more animations for dunking and whatnot.

[GloveGuy]

I'm sorry if you want to believe that there are only one or two dunks and layups, but please don't lie. I've had this game over a week and I'll tell you that you're wrong when talking about the variety of dunk/layup animations.

[deluxxe]

i agree pretty much with everything you say.
I would aslo add this... i think NBA Live caters to a far more mature/older audience. ESPN 2K5 is a younger crowd IMO.
This is all speculation of course, but if you polled all the people that play both of these games i bet you'd find that most people under 20 play ESPN and Over 20 play Live.

lol. ok, maybe i'm wrong on that one. But as i said, i'm just speculating. I never said that it was a fact. It would be an interesting poll though. I still think i'm right but i don't really have a way of proving it.

[Old School Fool]

Dude...The Dunk Dr. J did on Michael Cooper is in NBA 2K5!

TALK ABOUT VARIETY!

and I abused some guy with Dwyane Wade on 2K5...I cam from in between the ft line and the dotted line, Went up put it down and wade landed exhausted and stopped near the Basketball Stand...

REALISM!

But again.......I'm not too much into ESPN.....Live is my choice because it's the fucking shiznit bitch!

[GloveGuy]

lol. ok, maybe i'm wrong on that one. But as i said, i'm just speculating. I never said that it was a fact. It would be an interesting poll though. I still think i'm right but i don't really have a way of proving it.

Well I have a way of proving you wrong...which I already did. It's unfair to pass judgement on an entire fan base.

[deluxxe]

lol. ok, maybe i'm wrong on that one. But as i said, i'm just speculating. I never said that it was a fact. It would be an interesting poll though. I still think i'm right but i don't really have a way of proving it.

Well I have a way of proving you wrong...which I already did. It's unfair to pass judgement on an entire fan base.

oh ya dude! if a 30 year old moderator on a message board plays ESPN than i MUST be wrong.
lol... whatever.
I'm not passing judgement... at least, that wasnt' my intention. I was just stating an opinion that's all. I don't know how i can possibly make that any clearer to you.

you need to just chill and stop telling people they are wrong because they have a different opinion than you.

I'm thinking maybe this post now probably belongs in the "other games" section.

[fgrep15]

I could give a comparison, I've been playing both games, I got some sliders for both, and my bro and my friend like Live better for 1 on 1 play, but both are good.

ESPN doesn't have the same dunks, I had Vince do a through the legs and a windmill in traffic in the same game, so I know their's more than 2 dunks.

[deluxxe]

ESPN doesn't have the same dunks, I had Vince do a through the legs and a windmill in traffic in the same game, so I know their's more than 2 dunks.

it definately depends on the players skill level

[Jay-Peso]

I'm sorry if you want to believe that there are only one or two dunks and layups, but please don't lie. I've had this game over a week and I'll tell you that you're wrong when talking about the variety of dunk/layup animations.

I said, basically the same thing. By that I mean, it's the same but from different angles. There are like 4 different dunks that I have done in ESPN 2k5.

One thing I do like about ESPN is that when you try dunking over someone you can lose the ball and grab rim which is pretty cool.

[fgrep15]

^^
Yea that is nice, but one thing is that all basketball games always have too many blocks, I remember even in College Hoops last year, I'd block so many perimeter shots. I dominated with Araujo last game I played though, it was sick, Araujo is a beast in the game lol [he's not really a beast but still].

I like when players drive and chuck up the one hander with contact in ESPN, except I was playing my bro and Carter did that 3 times in a row with his left hand and made them all

Also players get pushed back on dunks in both games, that annoys me, your guy just goes flying backwards.

I had suggestions about hand ratings for the game.

[jaywill]

the only thing that i dont like with this game is that you couldnt edit the player's jersey number.

[orb]

try playing 12 minute quarters (superstar) on both Live05 and 2k5 and you will figure out which is the better game. i feel that live is better cuz 2k5's scoring is just outrageously high. live05 still needs some tweaking to be more realistic, but it's not as horrendous as 2k5, which can reach 200 pts when playing 12 min quarters.

[Wormy10]

I havent played 2k5 but i have played previous games like 2k4 etc. and have found it is quite easy to score

[XianeX]

live05 still needs some tweaking to be more realistic, but it's not as horrendous as 2k5, which can reach 200 pts when playing 12 min quarters.

You could probably score 200 points on Live, too. It all depends on your style of play, if you Run-N-Gun, then obviously, you'll get high scores but if you play basketball how it should be played (calling plays, moving the ball around, etc.) then you will get very realistic NBA scores.