do you think live will have this feature?

i was reading on espn nba basketball forums that the people that got the demo for ps2 threw it off the backboard for a pass in the game and the other person dunked it. u think this will be in live?
scott

nah

aint a feature i would necessarily miss either

I really don't want it, it's not something you're gonna see happen every game in real life.

it's maybe a move you can do in a practice or in one-on-one mode?

They have that in the NBA Street Vol. 2 game. I don't really see why Live 2004 would have that. It doesn't happen that often in the NBA (maybe once every 2-3 months, with T-Mac?).

actually jkidd does it 2 kmart quite often, it would be a nice feature for breakways once in a while, as long as isnt overdone, and if its tried in traffic there should be plenty turnovers and injuries.

i see T-Mac do it for himself in ASG and in orlando at TD waterhouse center vs toronto

and, Tony parker in the Nike camp at paris this summer, yes, TP dunk!

i agree with you there rudogg33.
it would be cool to have it in there. but it wouldn't be very realistic at all...

in a video, i don't remember which
Carter shot the ball and missed it but then wen't for the put-back dunk... but that was in 2003 also, but this one look better though.very realistic
and if it is in the game. i'm pretty sure EA would have advertised it somehow. or at lease put it in a video or two...

it's maybe a move you can do in a practice or in one-on-one mode?

hehe. yea. throw it to your opponent show some generosity
they don't pass it to themself, but to a team-mate...

dont want it... im sure if they had it in life it would be overdone, and i know in espn its going to be overdone very much and it would get boring.

it would be cool to have it in there. but it wouldn't be very realistic at all...

How can it be unrealistic if it was actually done in reality. Additionally, it wasn't done in a break-away, but in traffic--through 4 people. On the other hand, it would be freaky to see Steve Nash do that. If it is implemented, I would want it done only by the top dunkers, such as Vince Carter and T-MAC.

Only time I have seen these dunks were the following events:

At the all-star game with T-Mac going through traffic, which I believe it was 3 or 4 defends. It was awesome how he left all the defends in awe.

At the rookie challenge when Vince Carter caught a ball that bounce off the backboard, and then windmilled it in. Vince had so much elevation on this dunk that at his climax of his dunk, his head was actually tip to tip with the rim.

i think it would be unrealistic even if it was just the top dunkers...
just cuz then it would have no limitation or boundery... as most of us know, you can do any dunk in the game whether you'r in trafic or not.
+ it would happen so often aswell. it would be wierd to have it happen every other game. as you inclined in the second post it doesn't hapen very often... and therefor it shouldn't be in the game as long as it can't control when it uses it... now the only 'limitation' is where the player is when you puch the button... you could stand still at the freethrow line or be in full speed and you can still make a dunk form there even in traffic...
now picture yourself doing off-the-backboard dunks whenever you 'feel like it' as long as your in the correct possition...

I think Sega is going kinda toward streetball(not saying its a bad thing). I noticed it use to be a fine simulation of the NBA. Now theres fancy passes, 360 alleyoops, crazy dribbling moves....and now maybe this? Oh well.

i think it would be unrealistic even if it was just the top dunkers...
just cuz then it would have no limitation or boundery... as most of us know, you can do any dunk in the game whether you'r in trafic or not.
+ it would happen so often aswell. it would be wierd to have it happen every other game. as you inclined in the second post it doesn't hapen very often... and therefor it shouldn't be in the game as long as it can't control when it uses it... now the only 'limitation' is where the player is when you puch the button... you could stand still at the freethrow line or be in full speed and you can still make a dunk form there even in traffic...
now picture yourself doing off-the-backboard dunks whenever you 'feel like it' as long as your in the correct possition...

If you read carefully, I think I said "not to often". I agree with you: there shouldn't be too much of it. It would be a letdown to see a backboard-ally and then a 360 windmill at the other end a minute later. But, it would be cool to see these once in awhile. A Basketball without something a little exciting would just BE DULL. By putting dunks like that would be a spice to the game.

I think it should be added.I think something out of the ordinary that has maybe a 1 out of 150 chance or something like that should be in every sports game.Maybe Vince jumping straight over Yao Ming and things like that.Or in Madden someone getting hit so hard they do a flip but land on their feet.I remember a while back I was playing a College ball game on the Playstation(don't remember which one) and when i dunked the backboard shattered and it was the most exciting moment I ever had playing a sports videogame.As long as its not overdone and rarely if at all happens again.This would give people a reason to save a replay to their memory cards.

Sega is toward streetball with 24'7 mode. I think an off the backboard pass would be completely unnessesary in this game. I mean damn sure Kidd does it to Martin and T-Mac to himself but come on. This is an NBA game people lets not forget. There are more fights than off-the backboard passes in the NBA...Do we want fights too?

Sega is toward streetball with 24'7 mode. I think an off the backboard pass would be completely unnessesary in this game. I mean damn sure Kidd does it to Martin and T-Mac to himself but come on. This is an NBA game people lets not forget. There are more fights than off-the backboard passes in the NBA...Do we want fights too?

You should consider that these dunks are becoming more frequent in games. For instance the 180 jam: you didn't see this at ALL in the 70's or even the early 80s. Now a days, you see these dunks more often. Dunks are becoming more and more ferocious. I wouldn't be surprised to see the 540 dunk in the future. By then, the 360, or even the backboard-ally would be as nothing at all. Makind will push further and further until we meet that line of limitation. As of now, we don't know what the limits are; thus, we're going further and further. Hence, the dunks should be implemented.

FVDMC, that was very well said. I agree with you.

Trust me guys, the game would get tedious after a week of gameplay if these dunks aren't put in.

If you go to NBA.com and see the weekly highlights, you see at least one or more outragous things, such as, backboard alley, half court shot and etc.

OK, before I start, I'd just like to say that this post isn't intended as an agressive reply to anyone's post. I'm simply writing, well typing, what I feel should be said about this topic and to add just a bit of humour as well.

Alright now, while I agree that something miraculous should be added into the game, I don't believe that it should happen everytime a highly rated player goes for a dunk or anything like it.

If you watch the NBA, yes, some players do come up with fancy shmancy dunks. But not all the time. Why? 'Coz the fancier the dunk, the more chances there are for injuries. Heck, when T-Mac is on a fast break, you're most likely to see a tomahawk or a double clutch. And you're probably not going to see Vince Carter do the same dunks as he would 2-3 years ago (although a lot of VC fans in here will make me eat my words).

Of course, fancy 360 degree dunks could always be implemented in the game. But they'd have to increase the injury factor to balance it all out.

A coach will go absolutely bonkers if one his players goes up for a off the backboard dunk and miss. Another reason why players are not getting all fancy with dunks.

Makind will push further and further until we meet that line of limitation. As of now, we don't know what the limits are; thus, we're going further and further. Hence, the dunks should be implemented.

Are you thinking of Spiderman the game here?

Anyway on a more serious note, yes, I agree with you. There are certain things that players now can do what no player back in the hay days could.

But I'm thinking more of a PG with power to drive to the hoop (ala B Diddy, Franchise), a big man that can handle the ball (ala Odom, Walker), ferocious dunkers with the ability rip down the rim (Stoudemire, McDyess). Wouldn't we want this as part of the game? Yes, yes, YESSS!!

But 360's, 540's, helicopter dunks (like in Live 95), off the backboard dunks? Well, no. The helicopter and 540 is definately a must not, while others can be put in, but only to keep us in awe of the game. And with the hope that it doesnt happen often.

Once in a blue moon, you get to see something miraculous in reality, likewise for the game. You see T-Mac with a off the backboard dunk once in an All Star game and now you want it in the game. What's next? A Courtside Countdown?

Ohh yes, I'm also aware that T-Mac also did this dunk during a game. Yes, it was awesome, but think about it this way, what if he missed? Doc Rivers would've dragged him to the sideline and just say to him "Hey we're to trying to win a game here, how about keeping your libido down until after the game?" He would've benched anyone else, but this is T-Mac we're talking about here.

Heck why don't we just have a button where you can shoot at your own ring and grab your own rebound for the sake of a triple double? Hey it happened once, why not put it in the game?

The End.....

OK, before I start, I'd just like to say that this post isn't intended as an agressive reply to anyone's post. I'm simply writing, well typing, what I feel should be said about this topic and to add just a bit of humour as well.

Alright now, while I agree that something miraculous should be added into the game, I don't believe that it should happen everytime a highly rated player goes for a dunk or anything like it.

If you watch the NBA, yes, some players do come up with fancy shmancy dunks. But not all the time. Why? 'Coz the fancier the dunk, the more chances there are for injuries. Heck, when T-Mac is on a fast break, you're most likely to see a tomahawk or a double clutch. And you're probably not going to see Vince Carter do the same dunks as he would 2-3 years ago (although a lot of VC fans in here will make me eat my words).

Of course, fancy 360 degree dunks could always be implemented in the game. But they'd have to increase the injury factor to balance it all out.

A coach will go absolutely bonkers if one his players goes up for a off the backboard dunk and miss. Another reason why players are not getting all fancy with dunks.

Makind will push further and further until we meet that line of limitation. As of now, we don't know what the limits are; thus, we're going further and further. Hence, the dunks should be implemented.

Are you thinking of Spiderman the game here?

Anyway on a more serious note, yes, I agree with you. There are certain things that players now can do what no player back in the hay days could.

But I'm thinking more of a PG with power to drive to the hoop (ala B Diddy, Franchise), a big man that can handle the ball (ala Odom, Walker), ferocious dunkers with the ability rip down the rim (Stoudemire, McDyess). Wouldn't we want this as part of the game? Yes, yes, YESSS!!

But 360's, 540's, helicopter dunks (like in Live 95), off the backboard dunks? Well, no. The helicopter and 540 is definately a must not, while others can be put in, but only to keep us in awe of the game. And with the hope that it doesnt happen often.

Once in a blue moon, you get to see something miraculous in reality, likewise for the game. You see T-Mac with a off the backboard dunk once in an All Star game and now you want it in the game. What's next? A Courtside Countdown?

Ohh yes, I'm also aware that T-Mac also did this dunk during a game. Yes, it was awesome, but think about it this way, what if he missed? Doc Rivers would've dragged him to the sideline and just say to him "Hey we're to trying to win a game here, how about keeping your libido down until after the game?" He would've benched anyone else, but this is T-Mac we're talking about here.

Heck why don't we just have a button where you can shoot at your own ring and grab your own rebound for the sake of a triple double? Hey it happened once, why not put it in the game?

The End.....

Whoa whoa hold up. Why in the world do you think NBA was formed in during the booming era? Not because for the money for the players. I hope you know that, earlier, NBa players had to get a second job to support their family. To tell you the truth, NBA was formed to really entertain people. If you exclude this "exciting things" NBA would go out of popularity.

Also, calm down. If T-Mac missed that shot, which is possible, the coach would not have dragged him to the sideline, and yes, I know this is an exaggation. Remember this, Jorda missed a simple dunk in the Allstar game. I don't know if you have whitness it... in a game, Kobe Bryant pulled up a windmill and missed it on a breakaway. Kobe missed it so badly that the ball ended up in the crowds. Of course he was embarrassed, but no one "freakin" blamed him for making such a mistake. Basketball is all about "game"/fun. Why in the world do you think people go see baseball, basketball, hockey games for??? To have FUN!!!

On the side note: why are we so stuck to this idea of perfection!?!? Why do we have to care about emulating video games to reality so much? These dicussion has gone to far that I have to admit that it's getting quite pathetic. EA is doing what they do best, so let the pros handle it. I'm pretty sure they have thoughts and brainZ too.

180's are cool so are a lot of dunks but in a damn video game the off the backboard antics would happen too often, much more often than in a real game.

MAYBE if someone has a 99 rating no less for dunking then MAYBE they should do off the backboard. If you got a 98 you aint doin the backboard dunk. Maybe

Also, calm down.

Why are you telling me to calm down? I am calm. I guess you missed this part:

OK, before I start, I'd just like to say that this post isn't intended as an agressive reply to anyone's post. I'm simply writing, well typing, what I feel should be said about this topic and to add just a bit of humour as well.

Remember this, Jorda missed a simple dunk in the Allstar game.

C'mon mate, it's an All Star game. Nobody will really care if you shot the ball between your legs.

Kobe Bryant pulled up a windmill and missed it on a breakaway. Kobe missed it so badly that the ball ended up in the crowds. Of course he was embarrassed, but no one "freakin" blamed him for making such a mistake.

Yeah I saw that, and I laughed my ass off. Point is, it was a windmill dunk, not a off the board or between the leg dunk and it was Kobe "freakin" Bryant we're talking about. He's going to get away with those kinds of things because a) he's a superstar player and b) he can really do it because of his athletic ability.

OK, so you're playing the game. You're down by 2 and clawing your way back into the game, when there's a loose ball and your player goes on a breakaway. Instead of the casual dunk, he throws it off the glass and hammers it down, and MISSES. I guarantee you, you'll be hammering your control pad on your table.

My point is, will the game be able to tell the difference between when a fancy dunk should be performed or not? If it can, then GREAT!

On the side note: why are we so stuck to this idea of perfection!?!? Why do we have to care about emulating video games to reality so much? These dicussion has gone to far that I have to admit that it's getting quite pathetic.

This is a discussion forum right? I think everyone's deserved the right to speak for themselves here and will give their opinion no matter what. Believe it or not, but a lot of people in these boards crave for realism and perfection in the game. If you think that's pathetic, then I don't think you're respecting what other people think and feel.

I'm pretty sure they have thoughts and brainZ too.

Believe it or not, so do I, which is why I posted what I posted.

Good day to you all....

OK, so you're playing the game. You're down by 2 and clawing your way back into the game, when there's a loose ball and your player goes on a breakaway. Instead of the casual dunk, he throws it off the glass and hammers it down, and MISSES. I guarantee you, you'll be hammering your control pad on your table.

I agree. NBA Live probably will do something like that if it was in the game. Its like 2002(if u have ever played it) where guys like rasheed wallace whip out the between the legs in traffic. I think thats why its out.

MAYBE if someone has a 99 rating no less for dunking then MAYBE they should do off the backboard. If you got a 98 you aint doin the backboard dunk. Maybe

But then that wouldnt be too realistic. Thats what we are looking for right? I mean guys like jamal crawford can probably pull off that kind of dunk. Its really no different then an alley-oop. I think making a button combination....maybe.

BAM! It hit me. What if the cpu drives threw the lane in traffic and does it! We'd be pissed bad. Like 'how come it can do it in traffic but i cant?' That would make you break your controller.