nba live 2004 on a laptop?????????

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nba live 2004 on a laptop?????????

Postby yendor28 on Sun Sep 14, 2003 11:28 am

Hey guys,

I know the system requirements are not available yet but I am considering purchasing a laptop and want to make certain I can play nba live 2004 (have to do something between studying :) )

I would think that the type of screen and graphic card would be very important as I know about ram and CPU to a limited extent.

Also, can anyone with a laptop tell me about the battery system and everything else about laptops you think is relevant please.

I am in Australia but have a friend going to singapore where they are apparently A LOT cheaper. Is this the best way to buy one cheaply. I am looking to spend 1000-1500 (I am a poor uni student :( )
thanks guys
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Postby Jing on Sun Sep 14, 2003 11:23 pm

lol. my friend plays all of his games on a laptop..
and yeah in singapore and the eastern asian countires. the prices are lower. cause just importeted.
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Postby bryant8 on Mon Sep 15, 2003 1:30 am

Well I am from Singapore, and they are not really that cheap. depends on what you want. A laptop with good specs would cost around $1900-2800 (SGD). Sony Vaios cost around $3500-5000 I believe? Aussie dollar is abit stronger than the Singapore dollar, so yeah that's what you can expect.

You could look around www.hardwarezone.com for SG prices (under the pricelist tab) , but it's mostly PC peripherals, and pc parts. Check out www.dell.com.sg which is one of the leading pc dealers in Singapore. Else check www.compaq.com.sg or www.hp.com.sg, www.nec.com.sg perhaps?

And the place where IT stuff/pc/peripherals are located is in a shopping mall/centre called Sim Lim Square.
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Postby yendor28 on Mon Sep 15, 2003 9:58 am

Thanks for the responses guys!!!!!!!!

I have been told Paris silk or parisilk is really cheap in singapore!!!

I can get them at cost price here in Australia, but was told it is even cheaper there!

What is the exchange rate there?

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Postby fvdmc on Mon Sep 15, 2003 11:19 am

Here is my advice:

NEVER, and I mean never bye company-built computers. The malicious BIOS they put in can bug the crap out of you. What I recommend -- even for beginners -- go to a computer warehouse and simple buy all the parts you need.

Here are the basics:
1. Tower "duh" (I really like the new CLEAR ones that have fans attached on the side.)
2. Motherboard (This depends on how much you are willing to spend.)
3. CPU (P4 or Ath. XP) Plus the right cooler.
4. Sound Card
5. Graphic Card "DUH"
6. Power cords (Usually, comes with the tower.)
7. Speakers
8. Monitor
9. Modem
10. Cd-Rom/DVD-rom
11. Floppy
12. Ram
I think that's it.

Trust me, when you add the prices of all this, it will be at least several hundred dollars less than a company-built. Additionally, I heard warehouse can make a labtop for you at a good price.
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Postby bryant8 on Mon Sep 15, 2003 2:17 pm

Yeah but it's laptops we're talking about here. I don't think there are DIY laptops around coz the components will have to fit in the laptop with other considerations.

Desktops done DIY are definitely cheaper than brand name ones.

I don't know about paris silk.

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Postby blade_marc on Tue Sep 16, 2003 12:36 am

Hey Yendor28!

I would suppose the Acer Travelmate 80x - Series. I myself have a TM 800 with Pentium M 1,3 Ghz processor and the GBU is Ati Radeon Mobility 9000. The Notebook equals a desktop systems with a Intel P4 CPU 2 Ghz.
So, it's reallly enough for today's games!!

With the TM 800 you can work on battery for about 5 hours...and it cost at the moment about 1600 Euro.
The Notebook is really worth it's money!!

Bye the way...it's only 2,8 cm thin and weights about 2,6 kg...tell this all the guys with their heavy desktops at the next LAN :twisted: !!
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Postby fvdmc on Tue Sep 16, 2003 8:08 am

bryant8 wrote:Yeah but it's laptops we're talking about here. I don't think there are DIY laptops around coz the components will have to fit in the laptop with other considerations.

Desktops done DIY are definitely cheaper than brand name ones.

I don't know about paris silk.

currency convertor -> http://www.xe.com/ucc/

It can be done, but as I have said before, this is for experts. The experts at the warehouse can make one for a cheaper price. :roll:
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Postby yendor28 on Wed Sep 17, 2003 5:34 pm

Hey guys.

I have narrowed it down to three choices. 2 ibm and one toshiba. Do you guys know what the graphics cards are like and what do you think is the best buy


thanks guys

ThinkPad G40

$2 499.00

Display / Graphics subsystem
Screen type description[?] TFT
Viewable image size (diagonal) 15 inches
Screen illumination Backlit
Max colors or grey shades 16777216
Max resolution on built-in screen 1024x768
External display supported Yes
Max resolution on external display 1600x1200
Simultaneous external display Yes


Graphics subsystem
Graphic chipset[?] Intel Extreme Graphics
Graphic type XGA
Video RAM type DVMT
Max resolution (with max video RAM) 1600x1200 16777216 colors
Max colors (with max video RAM) 16777216


Processor
Processor manufacturer Intel®
Processor (CPU)[?] Intel® Pentium® 4
Processor internal clock speed 1 2.40 GHz
Front side bus 400 MHz
BIOS type Flash ROM


Memory
Memory (RAM std./max.)22 256 MB / 1 GB
RAM speed supported 266MHz
RAM type PC2100 DDR SDRAM
RAM slots total 2 SODIMM
RAM slots available 1 SODIMM


Hard disk
Hard disk size (GB) 5 40 GB
Hard disk type ATA-100 (Enhanced IDE)


Optical Device
Optical device[?] CD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo IV
Optical device speed 6 24X/10X/24X/8X Max
Device interface EIDE


Audio
Audio chipset SoundMAX
Audio data width n/a
Integrated speakers 1
Speaker power rating 1 W
Volume control buttons Yes


Communications
Fax/modem 56K V.92 designed modem
Fax / modem speed 4 56Kbps data/14.4Kbps fax KBps
Infrared port No
Network card 10/100 Ethernet - Integrated
Network interface Ethernet-Integrated
Network speed 10Mbps, 100Mbps


Accessories
A/C adapter 120 watt
Worldwide A/C compatibility Yes


Standard features
Pointing device type TrackPoint with "Press-to-Select"
Floppy disk drive 3.5" 1.44 MB
Keyboard type[?] Full size
Keyboard light[?] No
Product approvals / certifications ACA, BSMI, CCC (China), CE MARK, CER, CISPR22B. UL-1950, CSA C22.2 No. 950, FCC Class B - Part 15, IEC-950, JATE, MPR-II, NOM (Mexico), SASO, UL-1950, VCCI Class B


Power management
Heat emissions 120 W
Sound emissions 40 dB
Battery life min./max.12,7 3.5 Hrs hrs (with 1 battery)
Power management features Screen blank, Power management mode, Hibernation mode, Battery Power Status Display, Switching between display devices, Standby Mode
Battery type(s) 12 Cell Lithium-Ion
Charge time (on/off)) 6 hrs/ 4.5 hrs


Expansion options
Plug and Play support Yes
Parallel port(s) 1 (EPP)
Additional Expansion ports AC adapter, External Display, Headphone/Line out, RJ-45, PS/2, RJ-11, Microphone, Parallel, Speaker, 4 USB 2.0
PC Card Support 1 Type II or 1 Type III


Weight & dimensions
Weight 2 3.88 Kgs
Height 50.9 mm
Depth 282.5 mm
Travel weight 3.88 Kgs


_______________________

ThinkPad R40e

$1 499.00

Display / Graphics subsystem
Screen type description[?] TFT
Viewable image size (diagonal) 14.1 inches
Screen illumination Backlit
Max colors or grey shades 16777216
Max resolution on built-in screen 1024x768
External display supported Yes
Max resolution on external display 2048x1536
Simultaneous external display Yes


Graphics subsystem
Graphic chipset[?] ATI RADEON IGP 330M
Graphic type XGA
Video RAM std./max. 16 / 16
Video RAM type DVMT
Max resolution (with max video RAM) 2048x1536 65536 colors
Max colors (with max video RAM) 16777216
Graphics bus interface Direct AGP


Processor
Processor manufacturer Intel®
Processor (CPU)[?] Mobile Intel® CeleronTM processor
Processor internal clock speed 1 1.80 GHz
Front side bus 400 MHz
BIOS type Flash ROM


Memory
Memory (RAM std./max.)22 128 MB / 1 GB
RAM speed supported 266MHz
RAM type PC2100 DDR SDRAM
RAM slots total 2 SODIMM
RAM slots available 1 SODIMM


Hard disk
Hard disk size (GB) 5 20 GB
Hard disk type ATA-100 (Enhanced IDE)


Optical Device
Optical device[?] CD-ROM (Fixed)
Optical device speed 6 24X Max
Device interface EIDE


Audio
Audio chipset SoundMAX
Audio data width n/a
Integrated speakers 1
Speaker power rating 0.5 W
Volume control buttons Yes


Communications
Fax/modem 56K V.92 designed modem
Fax / modem speed 4 56Kbps data/14.4Kbps fax KBps
Infrared port No
Network card 10/100 Ethernet - Integrated
Network interface Ethernet-Integrated
Network speed 10Mbps, 100Mbps


Accessories
A/C adapter 72 watt
Worldwide A/C compatibility Yes


Standard features
Pointing device type TrackPoint with "Press-to-Select"
Keyboard type[?] Full size
Keyboard light[?] No
Product approvals / certifications ACA, BSMI (Taiwan), CCIB/CCEE (China), CE MARK, CER, CISPR-22 Class B, CSA C22.2 No. 950, FCC Class B - Part 15, IEC-950, JATE, MPR-II, NOM (Mexico), SASO, UL-1950, VCCI Class B


Power management
Heat emissions 72 W
Sound emissions 40 dB
Battery life min./max.12,7 2.1 Hrs hrs (with 1 battery)
Power management features Switching between display devices, Battery Power Status Display, Hibernation mode, Power management mode, Standby mode, Suspend mode
Battery type(s) 6 Cell Lithium-Ion
Charge time (on/off)) 4 hrs/ 3 hrs


Expansion options
Plug and Play support Yes
Parallel port(s) 1 (EPP)
Additional Expansion ports RJ-11, Microphone in, External Display, AC adapter, 2 USB 1.1, Speaker/headphone (stereo), RJ-45
PC Card Support 1 Type II or 1 Type III


Weight & dimensions
Weight 2 2.7 Kgs
Height 38.9 mm
Depth 254 mm
Travel weight 2.70 Kgs

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toshiba

SATELITE A10

2700 for 15" monitor
2500 for 14.1"


2.2 ghz intel pentium4, 60 gig hard drive, 2.8 hr battery, 256 meg ram, dvd/cdrw




So what do you guys think

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TM 800 rulez!!

Postby blade_marc on Wed Sep 17, 2003 7:51 pm

Hey Yendor!

Your choices sucks...you can't play any game with these notebooks! The Thinkpad G40 doesn't even have a graphic card!! It's just a Memory shared!! You can play Minesweeper with this one :o ...
And by the way...do you really wanna spend 2200 Euro for playing Minesweeper??
The Thinkpad R40 has indeed a real GBU...but it suckz too. It's really out-of-date! The display of this NB is also REALLY shit...you can't compare a XGA TFT with a SXGA+ (e.g. from Acer TM 800). The price is really good...but the processor....hell man! Do you know anything about cmoputer?!? Intel Celeron has been an up-to-date processor about 4 years ago!! You won't even be able to play Minesweeper with this NB :twisted:
And the Toshiba one...I don't know what GBU it has...the processor may be okay...but it's not a notebook-processor...it's a processor for desktops-systems...so the fan will ALWAYS work! And the NB will gonna be really HOT! Also the battery....2.8 hr....haha!

So check this out! This Notebook is ten times better than every of your choices!!

:arrow: http://global.acer.com/products/notebook/tm800.htm


TravelMate 800


Technical specifications

Platform Mobile Intel® Centrino™ Technology
Intel® Pentium® M processor
with 1024KB L2 Cache and supporting Enhanced Intel® SpeedStep® Technology
Wireless: Integrated Intel® PRO/Wireless 2100 network connection
Intel® 855PM chipset; 400MHz processor system bus

System Memory Standard DDR-266 SDRAM, upgradeable to max. 2048MB* on dual soDIMM sockets (*depending on availability of 1024MB modules)

Storage Ultra ATA/100 HDD with Disc Anti-Shock Protection system

Storage Devices Acer MediaBay for modules:
hot swappable standard 8x DVD, or
hot swappable standard 24/10/8/24x DVD/CD-RW combo drive,
hot swappable standard DVD-RW*
(*depending on hardware availability)

Display & Graphics 14.1” XGA TFT colour LCD, 1024×768, 16.7M colours
15.0” SXGA+ TFT colour LCD, 1400×1050, 16.7M colours
ATI® Radeon® 9000, dedicated 64MB DDR video memory
4× AGP graphic accelerator
Simultaneous LCD and CRT display at 1600x1200 @ 75Hz
DualView™ support
POWERPLAY™ support
MPEG-2/DVD hardware assisted capability

Audio Audio system with two speakers
SoundBlaster-Pro and MS DirectSound compatible
Built-in microphone

Security TravelMate SmartCard solution including PlatinumSecret™ suite:
PlatinumPAS™
PlatinumSecure™
PlatinumKey™
2 SmartCards
BIOS user and supervisor passwords
Slot for Kensington lock

Dimensions & Weight 14.1" model:
330 (W) × 272 (D) × 25.4-28.5 (H) mm;
13” (W) × 10.7” (D) × 1.05” (H)
15.0" model:
330 (W) × 272 (D) × 27.9-29.5 (H) mm;
13” (W) × 10.7” (D) × 1.15” (H)
2.56kg* for 14.1” LCD model with DVD module; 5.6* lbs
2.69kg* for 15.0” LCD model with DVD module; 5.9* lbs
(*actual weight may differ, depending on configuration)

Networking & Communication 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet; Wake-on-LAN ready
56K ITU V.92 data/fax software modem (with international PTT approval); Wake-on-Ring ready
Wireless LAN: Integrated Intel® PRO/Wireless 2100 network connection
Wireless PAN: Integrated Bluetooth™ (available on selected models only)

I/O Ports 1 × CardBus type II slot
1 × RJ-11 jack for modem
1 × RJ-45 jack for Ethernet
1 × DC-in jack for AC adapter
1 × ECP/EPP-compliant parallel port
1 × external VGA port
1 × speaker/ headphone/ line-out jack
1 × microphone/ line-in jack
1 × FIR port
1 × IEEE 1394 port
4 × USB 2.0 ports
1 × S-video-out (NTSC/PAL) port
1 × 100-pin docking port
1 × SmartCard interface slot

Power Subsystem ACPI power management standard supports Standby and Hibernation power saving modes
3-pin 75W AC adapter
65Wh Li-Ion battery pack
5.5 hours battery life (actual battery life might vary, depending on usage and configuration);
1.5 hours in rapid-charge
3.5 hours charge-in-use

Keyboard & Pointing Device Acer FineTouch keyboard: with a 5° curve, 84/85/88-key, inverted "T" cursor layout, 18mm spacing, 2.5mm (min.) key travel
Built-in touchpad pointing device with ergonomic buttons and four-way integrated scroll key
12 function keys; 4 cursor keys; two Windows® keys; hotkey controls
4 launch keys, including Internet browser, email (with LED for received mail), and 2 user-programmable keys
Embedded numeric keypad
International language support

Quality & Reliability Tests Temperature & Humidity Test
Acoustics Test
Electrostatic Discharge Test
Hinge Life Test
Free Drop Test
Weight Pressure Tests
Spill Test
Shock and Vibration Test
MTBF (Mean Time Between Failure) Test

Microsoft® Windows® XP Professional Edition

Software BIOS Set-up, Power-on and HDD passwords
Acer Notebook Manager
Acer Launch Manager
Norton AntiVirus™
Adobe Acrobat Reader
CyberLink® PowerDVD®
NTI® CD Maker™ (for models featuring DVD/CD-RW combo drive module)
Acer On-line User’s Guide
Acer System Recovery CD

Options AcerMedia Bay DVD-RW* drive module
AcerMedia Bay DVD/CD-RW combo drive module
AcerMedia Bay 2nd HDD module
AcerMedia Bay 2nd battery
AcerMedia Bay weight saver module
Additional 3-pin 75 W AC adapter
Additional Li-ion battery pack
USB floppy disc drive
I/O replicator
External battery charger*
4-in-1 PCMCIA card reader supporting Secure Digital (SD) card, SmartMedia, MultiMediaCard and Memory Stick
Acer EasyPort replicator

*Subject to hardware availability

System Compliances Microsoft® Windows® XP
Microsoft® Windows® 2000 Professional
SMBIOS 2.3 support with asset tag capability
ACPI
Wake-on-Ring
Wake-on-LAN
Mobile PC2001

Warranty 2 years collect and return
1 year International Travellers Warranty[/b]
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Postby yendor28 on Thu Sep 18, 2003 5:19 pm

hey,


thanks and I agree with you. However, your recomended laptop is A LOT more expensive than mine as mine are in Australian currency. (and I cannot afford it)

thank you very much though I really appreciate it

ROd
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