Flagrants, Technicals...

by **Mikki** on Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:16 pm

I think there should be a SPORTSMANSHIP feature...

this feature should be included so that when a player who's got a very low sportsmanship gets technical fouls....

this could also trigger flagrants if the player's got so low sportsmanchip...

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:40 pm

A similar idea was discussed in the Technical Fouls topic, only it was a temper rating rather than sportsmanship. The only problem with having a temper or sportsmanship rating is the possibility it will be too random. Guys like Sheed and Artest are hot-headed, but they don't get ejected every game, nor has any player ever picked up 82+ technicals or flagrant fouls. I can see that happening if it's left up to a rating alone.

If flagrant fouls are more common in NBA Live 2004, I hope that they don't automatically result in injuries. I remember playing a game in NBA Live 95 where by the 4th quarter every one of my reserves had either fouled out or been injured due to the fairly frequent flagrant fouls. (An interesting sidenote: One of the five remaining players actually picked up his 6th foul, but as in real life he was allowed to continue playing as there were no available substitutes)

by **havasufalls** on Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:49 am

(An interesting sidenote: One of the five remaining players actually picked up his 6th foul, but as in real life he was allowed to continue playing as there were no available substitutes)

I thought in the NBA that after only five available players that the first player to foul out comes back

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Mon Jul 21, 2003 12:58 pm

No, if there's only five available players and one of them picks up his sixth foul, he's allowed to continue playing. However, he is assessed a personal foul and the team is assessed a team foul and a technical foul.

by **Metsis** on Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:07 pm

It would be quite unfair for the other team if the foul troubled team would get a pair of fresh legs off the bench.

I don't know how it works at Finlands national level, but at the lower level, well you play with four guys... And you pretty much automatically loose the game since your defense lacks that one player. You can still put up a good fight, but there isn't much you can do.

And this was discussed in depth in the technical fouls section... Mainly by me and Andrew... Go check it out, I think it was pretty good.

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:18 pm

I don't know how it works at Finlands national level, but at the lower level, well you play with four guys... And you pretty much automatically loose the game since your defense lacks that one player. You can still put up a good fight, but there isn't much you can do.

It's the same at the junior level over here. You're allowed to play just 4 players if there are no available substitutes.

by **havasufalls** on Tue Jul 22, 2003 5:44 am

U guys r probably rite i jus heard an announcer say that the first player to foul out comes bac so thats wat i thought

thankx for clearing that up

by **JAY__JAY_** on Tue Jul 22, 2003 5:22 pm

yeah maybe they could have like refs that dont get it right every time. like make a mistake and that could set a hot headed person off. or maybe there could be a bar, in game, like a temper bar. so say the player gets pushed over. he gets a lttile angry. or say he mises a shot he gets little teead off. or maybe he gets foulded and he disagrees with the ref buit more angry. and the anger bar can affect the game. so say if hes get real angry he mite make more fouls or miss more shots cause hes pissed off. play you know like hes angry :twisted:

so u take him off to calm him down. so u have to mange your teams feelings to. and maybe vice versa 2. a happy bar. like on a hot streak like there is in place already but have like teasing in it n stuff. for like smart asses. who foul behind the bak of ref and giggle bout it u know??? well wot u think

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Tue Jul 22, 2003 5:27 pm

but have like teasing in it n stuff. for like smart asses. who foul behind the bak of ref and giggle bout it u know???

Not really necessary. Certainly no need to make a mini-game out of it or anything like that.

by **MikZyth** on Thu Jul 24, 2003 3:37 am

There's another option for fragnant foul: if you intentionally foul a player without the ball.
(this was implemented in NBA Courtside feat. Kobe Bryant (on Nintendo 64)).

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Thu Jul 24, 2003 4:53 pm

They'd have to implement two kind of intentional fouls if they added that rule. After all, intentional fouls to stop the clock are not necessarily flagrant fouls.

by **EGarrett** on Fri Jul 25, 2003 2:14 am

I think I'm gonna pull my hair out if this topic comes up one more time. Or pull the poster's hair out.

No. Technical. Fouls. They'd be completely random and would just make player's angry.

by **MikZyth** on Sat Jul 26, 2003 3:28 pm

Andrew wrote:They'd have to implement two kind of intentional fouls if they added that rule. After all, intentional fouls to stop the clock are not necessarily flagrant fouls.

Intentional fouls to stop the clock towards a player without the ball are very rare. And of course, I know it isn't necessary to be a flagrant foul even if you intentionally foul a player without the ball in real NBA.
But I think it would be quite good if this feature could be controled by the "foul sliders" in NBA Live.

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