FRANCHISE BETTER BE GOOD.....

by **killerht** on Sun Jun 22, 2003 12:09 pm

You know what I'm saying. We are better be able to offer a contract to a player with money and years, not just years and points. It would be awsome to give a player the money (points) he deserves or we want him to get.

If he's worth 10.000.000 points, why not be able to give him more, so he's happy. And have players's agents reject or accept the signing.

And have signing FA be better, in where you can see the upcoming FA's and are able to sign them before they can re-sign with their teams. If you give them a better contract, then they'd want to sign with you.

Also show the rookies for next year, and have a projected draft picks with a mock draft, to see if the draft is any good, so you can trade draft picks if you see that you won't get a good rookie at your pick, or to see if there are good rookies, so you can trade some of your players with the team that has the 1st overall pick.

When trading, have trading draft picks and money. For example: Derek Fisher, future 1st round pick, and 15 million dollars(points) for Tim Duncan and future 2nd round pick. Or something like that.

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by **killerht** on Sun Jun 22, 2003 2:40 pm

Ya'll got nothin to say to that. You don't agree? Thats the main shit that has to be on that damn game.

by **Colin** on Sun Jun 22, 2003 2:48 pm

This has all been posted before (see: any "NBA Live Wishlist" topic with "franchise" in the title) so we don't have anything more to say about it.

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As Colin said, there have been a lot of discussions about Dynasty/Franchise Mode, so it's not a case of disagreeing - I think we all want Dynasty Mode to be great - it's just that there's not much else to say.

by **Metsis** on Tue Jun 24, 2003 9:24 pm

The trading of cash is a thing that I really don't need to see in the game. And does trading money count for the cap space values of the players??? Cause I don't think it does. So a derek fisher tim duncan deal would be quite impossible to make.

It's always about the salary cap, always. It's the thing that hinders the teams and the thing why teams have to let some people go. I hate the fact that there's going to be a luxury tax heading NBA way. It will just rip the gap between players and teams even more wider, with players demanding more pay and the teams less willing to pay up because of the luxury tax.

But we'll just have to wait and see how the dust settles after this. It will benefit the lesser talented teams more due to the fact that keeping a big fat bench gets even more expensive.

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Tue Jun 24, 2003 9:38 pm

The trading of cash is a thing that I really don't need to see in the game. And does trading money count for the cap space values of the players??? Cause I don't think it does. So a derek fisher tim duncan deal would be quite impossible to make.

But there are player for cash trades in the NBA. At the very least, we should be able to trade a player for an empty slot in the default rosters.

by **Metsis** on Wed Jun 25, 2003 3:58 am

Well, we'll just have to wait and see how much of the money handling will be in the dynasty mode. And if you can deal a player for money, well how much is the money in salary cap terms. So could you like buy a player with a million dollar salary for a million or would it take more?

Trading for nothing is something that basically cannot be done in the NBA, so it is quite realistic that it is not an option in franchise.

But we'll know more when we know more...

by **Icebane** on Wed Jun 25, 2003 12:03 pm

Its a bit weird the Point cap in Lives...
In the previous years 98 I think, MJ (In real life, with the bulls) was earning as Much as the ENTIRE Golden State team just by himself (Which was 52.7 million or around about) Having a $1 million Cap just seems way too low... You can never sign the HUGE free agents like Tim Duncan and such.

A Retire option might be good as well, so you can retire players from your team early or whenever, instead of them randomly retiring (Cept when they hit 40 or over) Cause som players retire when they are 34!

by **Colin** on Wed Jun 25, 2003 1:02 pm

The one mil salary cap is one mil in "points." EA's own dollars. The maximum is 300, 000 so signing players shouldn't be a problem (but it is because way to many players "deserve" 300, 000, eventually Kareem Rush does :lol:

) And MJ's contract in 98 was around 35 mil from the bulls. And another 30 or so from endorsements.

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Wed Jun 25, 2003 1:22 pm

Trading for nothing is something that basically cannot be done in the NBA, so it is quite realistic that it is not an option in franchise.

True, but trading for cash does happen. Consider the Bulls trading Corie Blount to the Lakers some years back in exchange for cash. Also consider the Lakers trading George Lynch and Anthony Peeler to the Grizzlies to free up cap space so they could throw even more money at Shaq.

At the very least, I hope trading a player for an empty roster slot is allowed in the default rosters.

by **Icebane** on Wed Jun 25, 2003 1:44 pm

Yeah So there you go, I think altogether Jordan earned 55.7 million, which was equal to the Golden State team all together;)

by **DaManFromGapo** on Wed Jun 25, 2003 3:18 pm

Andrew wrote:
Trading for nothing is something that basically cannot be done in the NBA, so it is quite realistic that it is not an option in franchise.

True, but trading for cash does happen. Consider the Bulls trading Corie Blount to the Lakers some years back in exchange for cash. Also consider the Lakers trading George Lynch and Anthony Peeler to the Grizzlies to free up cap space so they could throw even more money at Shaq.

At the very least, I hope trading a player for an empty roster slot is allowed in the default rosters.

Yeah..this does happen..the question is how much cash are we talking about? I think that the cash paid has to almost equal the salary the player is getting this year? I'm not really sure... by trading a player for cash, our cap limit has to go down right? Does the cash act like a players' exemption where we can use the money to sign free agents?

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Wed Jun 25, 2003 3:25 pm

If this implemented in Live, I would assume it would be implemented at the most basic level ie. trade a player, subtract the amount of his contract from your payroll.

The other reason I'm for trading players for an empty slot (apart from being a roster patchmaker :wink:

) is trading of draft picks. IF trading of draft picks is in Live 2004, then we should be able to trade a player for a draft pick, not have to package the draft picks with players just to make a deal.

by **Colin** on Wed Jun 25, 2003 3:27 pm

If they implement the trade for cash, it would probably be more of an owner mode where you worry about ticket prices and loosing money.

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Wed Jun 25, 2003 3:29 pm

Not necessarily. As with the Lakers' trade of Anthony Peeler and George Lynch to the Grizz in 1996, it's a means of clearing cap space. It doesn't have anything to do with ticket prices and other non-basketball operations.

by **Colin** on Wed Jun 25, 2003 3:34 pm

Oh, I see. I only thought of it as teams do that when they're loosing money.

by **DaManFromGapo** on Wed Jun 25, 2003 3:38 pm

colin826 wrote:Oh, I see. I only thought of it as teams do that when they're loosing money.

yeah..similar to that of Dr j. when he was sold to the 76ers so that the New jersey nets could be par tof the ABA-NBA merger.

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Wed Jun 25, 2003 3:40 pm

Yeah, that's a slightly different situation.

by **Metsis** on Thu Jun 26, 2003 7:50 am

Freeing up cap space... Hopefully they fix the salaries before anything like this is implemented. The infamous salary.ini file...

by **killerht** on Mon Jul 07, 2003 4:26 am

Yeah but EA should make it the most realistc as possible.

Points makes the game not authentic, and its weird to sign players for points rather than money. the NBA is dumb for not letting EA use money instead of points. We can figure out anyway how much players make on the internet. Every sport lets videogames use money for franchise mode in signings, just not the NBA.

Dumb fcks.

by **killerht** on Wed Jul 09, 2003 3:35 am

That's right

by **benji** on Thu Jul 10, 2003 1:31 pm

Ok...so this is old by now...but...under the current CBA...you cannot trade a player to just any team for cash...the cash has zero effect on the 15% rule...the team has to have cap space...for more detail...Larry Coon...

Larry Coon wrote:Players can be traded for cash, and cash can be included in trade packages. The amount of cash is limited to $3 million. The cash is NOT considered when matching salaries under the 15% rule.

by **killerht** on Sat Jul 12, 2003 8:34 am

yes, I believe so.

Whats up?

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Sat Jul 12, 2003 1:28 pm

Ben wrote:Ok...so this is old by now...but...under the current CBA...you cannot trade a player to just any team for cash...the cash has zero effect on the 15% rule...the team has to have cap space...for more detail...Larry Coon...
Larry Coon wrote:Players can be traded for cash, and cash can be included in trade packages. The amount of cash is limited to $3 million. The cash is NOT considered when matching salaries under the 15% rule.

I figured there were restrictions...trading players for cash is still possible in the real NBA, so it wouldn't be unrealistic to do so in Live 2004 either. A limit could be placed depending on the salary cap system that is used. Using the current points system, perhaps it could be limited to 100000 points.

It would basically just be a method of clearing cap space or picking up a draft pick (assuming trading of draft picks is in NBA Live 2004) without having to receive a player in return.

by **Metsis** on Sun Jul 13, 2003 7:10 am

Andrew wrote:It would basically just be a method of clearing cap space or picking up a draft pick (assuming trading of draft picks is in NBA Live 2004) without having to receive a player in return.

Yeah and it would be fine. But the problem with this in Live 2003 is that no team is even near the cap. All teams are like 500k points over atleast and some teams even over 1million over the cap which is just ridicolous.

Think of how far would that team be in the luxury tax! No one would pay the bill on that team and making profit would be impossible.

Fix the salaries and bring real money into the mix so we'd know how deep the teams struggle in the luxury tax.

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