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please help stop momentary mental retardation

Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:30 am

it is at a point that i want to grab my monitor and throw it out the window.

watch an nba game and show me where a player gets blocked or misses a shot and then they are immeadiately momentarily mentally retarded and unable to move or play for two full seconds as the other teams rapes them and i will quit bitching. just show me this in real life one time.

here is my problem, i am playing and i miss a shot. my player is suddenly physically incapable of jumping, moving, or anything for two full seconds. (or what feels like two seconds) yet anyone i bump into on the way, even if they outright fall down, is capable of getting the ball before i can move. it is infuriating to be tied up at the end of a quarter vying for position for the fourth and lose the quarter because someone like ben wallace is suddenly retarded and cannot step left or right for a rebound so, let's say, a crippled midget on the floor beats ole ben to the board. it pisses me off.

so i thought maybe this is an in game issue made to keep things more difficult, you know - the way the game gets more rediculous on the higher levels of play instead of more difficult. so, i play one on one with michael jordan and t-mac. t-mac gets free and goes to the hole. he collides with jordan and lands on his feet while jordan lands on his back. the ball comes down next to t-mac. you'd think that this is match, set-won for t-mac. well, you did not count on the mental retardation factor. since t-mac touched jordan's arm hair he is now incapable of moving and jordan has the time to stand up, get the ball, check it, and be heading into offense by the time t-mac can get to moving (i exaggerate only slightly, jordan was on his way to check the ball when he came back from his drooling daze).

this flat out pisses me off. make the game more difficult but don't make it flat out ignorant and illogical just to make it difficult. momentary mental retardation is something i would expect from sony, not ea sports. it is reaching a level that i don't want to turn the game on.

it pisses me off that much.

Thu Feb 26, 2004 3:44 am

This is one of the many issues I hated about this year's, even though I still play it alllll the time and all. Even though I get used to problems on here, it just pisses me off to think, will they EVER make a near-perfect game? Everytime a few things get better, a few things get worst that had been good since 95.

Thu Feb 26, 2004 3:52 am

I can't say that anything so extreme happens on a regular basis in the NBA. What I can say, is there is a difference in mental quickness among various players.

A player like Larry Bird had one of the quickest minds on the court, that allowed him to beat faster players to rebounds.

It would be nice to see EA take this into account and make mental quickness a separate rating. The mentally slow would be frozen in time, as you have been, the mentally quick would be unimpaired.

I suppose they would have to take the word 'mental' out of the rating, so players wouldn't think they were being rated stupid.

Thu Feb 26, 2004 4:07 am

It doesnt seem to be such a bad thing..
It is not a bug.
It is to make sure you are not superman..
Maybe they can make the delay be based on stats of the player but i dont really see it as a bad gameplay element.

Thu Feb 26, 2004 7:18 am

Of course it's not a bad gameplay element... if done correctly! As it stands, it's ridiculous. The delay is really way too long, and the player looks idiotic in his slow-mo recovery.

Thu Feb 26, 2004 2:17 pm

It's certainly not a bug. It's simply the way the game was designed. But I agree, it shouldn't happen all the time. If a player takes a lot of contact (without getting a foul) he might be shaken up and out of the play, but it shouldn't happen if he merely misses the shot. It's a small issue, but hopefully it will be fixed in Live 2005 (it was in the Wishlist, so here's hoping (Y)).
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