The Criteria for Ratings & Setting the Bar
Thu Jan 22, 2004 3:37 pm
If we start from scratch in certain attributes.
In FG's shouldn't the NBA's leading scorer get the highest rating?
In 3Pts shouldn't the NBA's leader in 3's made with the higher 3% get the highest rating? Also Peja would have to be because he' also the 2-time 3pt. shooting champ.
In primacy wouldn't the NBA's leader in shots taken get the highest primacy rating?
In stamina wouldn't the player with the most minutes played get the higher rating?
But in editing a player you have to also look at the individual's team and check the ratings of players 2nd or first in certain stats and peep their ratings given.
For instance my man fgrep15 feels like Stackhouse should be lowered in FG's.
Looking at the Wizard's team it is obvious that he is the best scorer, and he should have the highest FG's, he and Arenas.
Also in editing player's primacy rating you would have to base this off of his teammate's ratings in this attribute.
That's why I mentioned Peja Stojakovic receiving 10 more in primacy because he is taking more shots and leading the team in scoring.
Also in roster patches and users editing players.... Knowing that Baron Davis, T-Mac, A.I., and Paul Pierce lead the NBA in shot attempts who would get the 99?
The person who takes the MOST shots per game?
What would the 2nd player get?
3rd?
4th? etc., etc.
If Ray Allen & Peja are the bar for 3pt. rating what should Michael Redd get?
What about Nick Van Exel who leads the playoffs consitently in 3's made?
Does 3's made play highly into the overall 3pt rating?
I mean Baron Davis makes and takes the most 3's this year, shouldn't he receive higher than a 68 if Peja is an 88?
Bruce Bowen led the NBA in 3pt% what should his 3pt. rating be?
In stealing isn't total steals just as important as average steals per game?
What about offensive awareness?
What is the actual criteria for offensive awareness?
PPG?
Assists?
Balance in assists & PPG?
What is the criteria for defensive awareness?
1st team defensive accolades?
2nd team defensive accolades?
Team defensive stats?
A balance of all 3?
It's hard to tell what EA bases their attributes and rating off of sometimes.
I study the stats and ratings year in and year out but there are still inconsistencies.
In FG's shouldn't the NBA's leading scorer get the highest rating?
In 3Pts shouldn't the NBA's leader in 3's made with the higher 3% get the highest rating? Also Peja would have to be because he' also the 2-time 3pt. shooting champ.
In primacy wouldn't the NBA's leader in shots taken get the highest primacy rating?
In stamina wouldn't the player with the most minutes played get the higher rating?
But in editing a player you have to also look at the individual's team and check the ratings of players 2nd or first in certain stats and peep their ratings given.
For instance my man fgrep15 feels like Stackhouse should be lowered in FG's.
Looking at the Wizard's team it is obvious that he is the best scorer, and he should have the highest FG's, he and Arenas.
Also in editing player's primacy rating you would have to base this off of his teammate's ratings in this attribute.
That's why I mentioned Peja Stojakovic receiving 10 more in primacy because he is taking more shots and leading the team in scoring.
Also in roster patches and users editing players.... Knowing that Baron Davis, T-Mac, A.I., and Paul Pierce lead the NBA in shot attempts who would get the 99?
The person who takes the MOST shots per game?
What would the 2nd player get?
3rd?
4th? etc., etc.
If Ray Allen & Peja are the bar for 3pt. rating what should Michael Redd get?
What about Nick Van Exel who leads the playoffs consitently in 3's made?
Does 3's made play highly into the overall 3pt rating?
I mean Baron Davis makes and takes the most 3's this year, shouldn't he receive higher than a 68 if Peja is an 88?
Bruce Bowen led the NBA in 3pt% what should his 3pt. rating be?
In stealing isn't total steals just as important as average steals per game?
What about offensive awareness?
What is the actual criteria for offensive awareness?
PPG?
Assists?
Balance in assists & PPG?
What is the criteria for defensive awareness?
1st team defensive accolades?
2nd team defensive accolades?
Team defensive stats?
A balance of all 3?
It's hard to tell what EA bases their attributes and rating off of sometimes.
I study the stats and ratings year in and year out but there are still inconsistencies.
Thu Jan 22, 2004 3:57 pm
Go work for EA and tell us all about it. 
Seriously, I've given-up on figuring out how they do stuff "under the hood".
Seriously, I've given-up on figuring out how they do stuff "under the hood".
Thu Jan 22, 2004 4:42 pm
The field goal rating determines jumpshot ability. The NBA's top scorer isn't necessarily the best shooter in the league. It's balanced out by other ratings such as primacy and offensive awareness, as well as the ratings of other players on the team.
Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:49 pm
Iverson led the league in scoring a couple years back, does that mean he should have a high FG rating? but his shooting % was around 40%, he did take a lot of shots though, so u would have to increase his primacy and lower his FG rating
Fri Jan 23, 2004 2:50 am
Andrew wrote:The field goal rating determines jumpshot ability. The NBA's top scorer isn't necessarily the best shooter in the league. It's balanced out by other ratings such as primacy and offensive awareness, as well as the ratings of other players on the team.
I understand that part, that's why I'm questioning EA's criteria.
But who is the NBA's best shooter?
How do you judge that?
Off of reputation?
Personally, I think Peja Stojakovic, & Ray Allen are the best shooters in the NBA but in going with this FG rating:
Say there's a player like Peja who shoots for a high%, and he's in the top 5 scoring, and he shoots over 40% in 3pt's. should he have the highest FG rating?
Obviously a player like this is offensively aware.
Not necessarily the highest of offensively aware players but the primacy would naturally be there because this is a top scorer and to be a top scorer you have to take alot of shots but I still don't know what determines FG rating.
Shaq leads the NBA pretty much in FG% should he set the bar for FG rating?
With his range naturally set under 15 ft. he would shoot well close tothe basket as he should.
But still on a player like Iverson who like it was mentioned leads the NBA in scoring consistently due to lots of shots taken what should his FG rating be?
It's a wild thing how they judge certain players by one standard and then another by something else.