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Who do u think is the Coverboy?

Vince
26
53%
Payton
1
2%
TMAC
2
4%
Kobe
5
10%
Marbury
15
31%
 
Total votes : 49

Sun Aug 03, 2003 6:38 pm

First of all a friendly reminder: please don't post in all caps. It's not polite.

Last year EA released a preview of the cover with a blacked out player. The outline matched the final cover - Jason Kidd - so to say that this blacked out preview is an indication of who is on the cover is a logical assumption.

GOOD MARKETING SAYS IT'S LEBRON JAMES.


I disagree. It would be wise to choose a player who is already well established and popular with the fans. LeBron James is yet to play an official NBA game.

ROOKIE OR NOT HE'S PROVING HE'S THE REAL DEAL WITH HIS SUMMER LEAGUE PLAY AND HE'S NOT PLAYING HARD LIKE HE WANTS TO AVOID INJURIES.


Bo Outlaw is averaging 30 points per game in one of the summer leagues. That doesn't mean he's among the NBA's elite. Summer leagues are good competition, but it's not the best competition the NBA has to offer.

STOP GETTING CAUGHT UP IN WHO YOU LIKE AND LOOK AT IT WITH A BUSINESS MIND.


No offense, but it seems like you're doing the same thing with LeBron James. Most of the people seeking to find out who the cover player is are comparing NBA photos to the outline and eliminating players who are under contract to other developers. I don't think anyone has stated personal preference as their reasons for suggesting a player.

EA IS GIVING US SOME NEW THINGS...WHY NOT A PHENOM ON THE COVER !


LeBron James has not proven anything in the NBA yet. He has not played an official game, he has not registered a statistic that will be noted in all-time records. In terms of the NBA, he's an extremely promising rookie who has the potential to be great. But as yet, he's unproven and certainly can't be considered among the NBA's elite until he proves himself - just like everyone else.

Sun Aug 03, 2003 7:17 pm

yes totally agree with Andrew...itz not like Lebron is averaging 37 ppg in the regular season heck T-Mac wasn't even on a cover of a NBA game yet..and there's alot more player that deserves to be on the cover than just a rookie out of high school...itz not like he can drop 50 on T-MAC,Kobe,Vince...

bottom line he isn't at the top of the elite level in NBA...he hasn't proven himself...if he can be as good in high school as in NBA they'll put him on later in his career...they're plenty of time...

Mon Aug 04, 2003 1:29 am

heck T-Mac wasn't even on a cover of a NBA game yet


T-mac does have his own game.. remember ESPN NBA 2night 2002 for ps2?

Mon Aug 04, 2003 7:12 am

Bear with me for this mother of all long posts.
I think it's Marbury not just because it looks like him (as many posters before me have pointed out) but, consider the following:

Keep in mind that the game for a certain year is made based on the previous season.

Live 97, cover: Mitch Richmond.
Richmond ranked eighth in the NBA in scoring with a team-high 23.1 ppg, second only to Michael Jordan among guards ...He shot .447 from the field, a career-high .437 from three-point range (ninth in the NBA) and a team-high .866 from the free throw line (seventh in the NBA) ...He led the team three-pointers with 225 and steals with 1.54 spg... Richmond started all 81 games in which he played and scored in double figures in 78 of them, getting 20 points or more 53 times and 30 points or more 19 times ...He led the team in scoring 53 times and tied his career-high with 47 points, including a franchise-record 25 in the fourth quarter, on Dec. 15 against Houston ...He was an NBA All-Star for the fourth year in a row and Sacramento's leading scorer in the playoffs, averaging 21.0 ppg in four games against Seattle ...He was a member of the U.S. Dream Team that won the gold medal at the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta.

Live 98, cover: Tim Hardaway.
Hardaway's first full season with Miami was a brilliant one and earned him a spot on the All-NBA First Team. He led the Heat with 20.3 points (17th in the NBA), 8.6 assists (seventh) and 1.86 steals (15th) in 38.7 minutes (19th). His 203 three-pointers also topped Miami and were the fourth-most in the league. Hardaway started 81 games for Miami and led the team in assists (or tied for the lead) in 77 of those games. He reached double figures 27 times, posting a season-high 16 assists in a 108-99 victory at Detroit on March 4. He scored in double figures 74 times and had 25 double-doubles. He tallied a career-high 45 points, shooting 13-for-25 from the field, 6-for-12 from three-point range and 13-for-14 from the foul line, in a 108-105 victory at Washington on March 7. In the playoffs, Hardaway topped Miami with 18.7 points, 7.0 assists and 1.59 steals in 41.2 minutes. He scored a playoff career-high 38 points, including 18 points in the third quarter, and added 7 assists and 5 steals in a 101-90 victory over the New York Knicks in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference Semifinals. (what an exciting series that was, I might add)

Live 99, cover: Antoine Walker.
As an exciting 2nd-year player, Walker made his first all-star appearance after averaging 22.4ppg, 10.2rpg, 3.3apg, and 1.7spg. He also scored his career-high 49 points and recorded several triple doubles this season. He was quickly becoming a superstar and signified a bright future for the Celtics.

Live 2000, cover: Tim Duncan.
This was an obvious choice for EA with Duncan being named Finals MVP for the champions Spurs.
Named to both the All-NBA First Team and the All-Defensive First Team ... appeared in all 50 games, averaging 21.7 points, 11.4 rebounds, 2.4 assists and 2.52 blocks in 39.3 minutes per contest ... shot .495 from the field... the only player in the NBA to rank among the top 10 in scoring (7th), rebounding (5th), blocks (7th) and FG percentage (10th) ... finished third in MVP voting ... led the NBA in double-doubles for the second straight season with 37 ... scored in double-figures 48 times, with 20 or more 31 times ... scored over 30 five times.

Live 2001, cover: Kevin Garnett.
Became only the ninth player in league history to average at least 20 ppg, 10 rpg and 5 apg in a season...Posted career highs in scoring (22.9), rebounding (a club-record 11.8) and assists (5.0)...Led the Wolves in scoring 52 times, in rebounding 66 times, and in assists on 13 occasions...Recorded a club-record 57 point/rebound double-doubles on the year, ranking 3rd in the NBA in that category... Set franchise records for rebounds in a game (23), half (19, 1st) and quarter (12, 1st) in the 12/27/99 win at Orlando; he had 20+ boards four times overall ... Became just the fifth player in franchise history to score 40+ with his 40-point effort on 3/22/00 at Boston, part of a club-record string of four consecutive 30-point outings... Named the NBA's Player of the Week three times (March 20-26, Dec. 20-26, Nov. 8-14), and also earned Player of the Month honors for January.

Live 2002, cover: Steve Francis.
Averaged career highs of 19.9 points and 6.9 rebounds in 80 games (79 starts) ... also ranked 15th in the NBA with 6.5 assists per game and ninth with a career-high 1.76 steals per game ... became the first player in franchise history to lead the Rockets in points, rebounds and assists, becoming the 18th player in NBA history to hold this distinction on his team...overall, led the Rockets in 15 statistical categories ... became the first Rockets player in history and the only NBA player this year to reach 500 rebounds and 500 assists in a season ... led all NBA guards in rebounding ... named All-NBA First Team by Basketball Digest...reached 20 points a team-high 45 times and 30 points six times...had a team-leading 24 double-doubles... reached double figures in points 74 times, rebounds 15 times and assists 11 times...led Houston in points 37 times, rebounds 23 times and assists 61 times...missed games on Dec. 19 and 23 with a right ankle sprain ... named the NBA Player of the Week on Jan. 16 to join Hakeem Olajuwon and Moses Malone as the only players to receive this honor multiple times with the Rockets.

Live 2003, cover: Jason Kidd.
I think everyone should know the story on this one. On his first year as a New Jersey Net, he led his formerly 20-30 wins team to a 52-30 record (1st in the east) and a trip to the NBA Finals.

Now consider the possibilities for Live 2004...

cover: Vince Carter.
Missed a career-high 39 games due to three seperate stints on the injured list...Posted career lows in games, minutes, field goals, field goal attempts, free throws, free throw attempts, rebounds, assists, steals, blocks and points...

or...

cover: Stephon Marbury.
Was only player in the NBA ranked in top 12 in points (12th, 22.3) and assists (4th, 8.1)... With his 22.3 points average he is the first Suns player with back-to-back 20-point seasons since Charles Barkley (23.2 in 1995-96, 23.0 in 1994-95)... Was 3rd in the NBA for percentage of team's offense with his points and assists accounting for 40.3% of Phoenix's points... Tallied 10 or more points in the fourth quarter 17 times this season, third-most in the NBA... Played in 81 games... Named Western Conference Player of the Week twice during the season (Jan. 13 and Dec. 1) for his third as a Sun and fifth in career... Scored 30-plus points 19 times this season and 40-plus points 5 times (10 in career)... Scored 20-plus points 47 times, including 36 of last 49 games... Recorded 23 double-doubles with 13 games of 20 points, 10 assists and 4 games with 30-plus points and 10-plus assists... Paced squad in scoring 40 times and had team high in assists 71 times...
And also the fact he, just like Jason Kidd, led a lottery-bound team to the playoffs (in the tough West) and exhibited some playoffs heroics against the 1st seed Spurs.

Taking these things in consideration, I think Vince Carter pales considerably in comparison with Starbury. But it's only a THEORY and it could be VC on the cover, or maybe even someone else. Though I kind of prefer VC (or Yao Ming for that matter) on the cover, I think this might be Stephon Marbury's year.

P.S. I really hope that EA puts in Yao Ming and Steve Nash sometime in the upcoming years (me being a Chinese-Canadian :) ).

Mon Aug 04, 2003 7:39 am

Goodz wrote:
heck T-Mac wasn't even on a cover of a NBA game yet


T-mac does have his own game.. remember ESPN NBA 2night 2002 for ps2?


oh yeah my bad :oops:

Mon Aug 04, 2003 11:35 am

kobes_4real wrote:
FB8KB8 wrote:kobe has a band in his left arm too...(look my signature)
but, by his contract.... :(

can't see pic, it not showing up


that's weird....i always see it...
well, i changed it now, he has an arm band too, tho it's different
can you see it now?
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Mon Aug 04, 2003 11:43 am

i think itz VC i am sure of it..it looks like there's a rubberband shped thing on the black image if u see it carefully so i think itz Vince...

Mon Aug 04, 2003 3:10 pm

Goodz wrote:
heck T-Mac wasn't even on a cover of a NBA game yet


T-mac does have his own game.. remember ESPN NBA 2night 2002 for ps2?
Actually I think it was NBA Starting Five and it was just this year.

I hope it's Starbury because he if I had to choose a fav player (which I don't like doing just so I can mention both Yinka and Benoit) he would be it.

Tue Aug 05, 2003 12:06 pm

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/235982.asp

it's vince!

Image

Tue Aug 05, 2003 12:19 pm

YES!!!! :D :shock: :)

Tue Aug 05, 2003 1:09 pm

first i thought it was vince, than just as I was beginning to think it was marbury, it turns out to be vince :roll:

he looks weird in though, like his face looks weird, he looks like he is sad or mad huh...
Last edited by TRUball on Tue Aug 05, 2003 1:10 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Tue Aug 05, 2003 1:09 pm

(Y) I was hoping it was going to be Vince.
I agree that his face does look kinda weird.

Tue Aug 05, 2003 7:50 pm

Seems like the folks at EA have gone Vinsane.

(Sorry, but I'm entitled to one truly terrible pun per year :wink:)

Wed Aug 06, 2003 6:38 am

Yes, said it all along :D , though i really dont care that much which one it would have been cuz i like them both
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