Dunks

by **Ruff Ryder** on Mon Aug 04, 2003 10:57 pm

I hope it looks better when you dunk on people. Kinda like nba street, both players rise, almost in slow mo, and then its either blocked or thrown down. And the stupid mid-air stance/position when you get dunked on is gone.

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Tue Aug 05, 2003 9:49 am

I'd like to see the between-the-legs dunk. EA removed it in Live 2003 for no apparent reason.

It wasn't very realistic to spin baseline and perform a between-the-legs dunk in traffic. If they bring it back, it should be a practice-only dunk, and restricted to only a couple of dunk packages.

by **Vins15** on Tue Aug 05, 2003 9:56 am

Andrew wrote:
I'd like to see the between-the-legs dunk. EA removed it in Live 2003 for no apparent reason.

It wasn't very realistic to spin baseline and perform a between-the-legs dunk in traffic. If they bring it back, it should be a practice-only dunk, and restricted to only a couple of dunk packages.

agree..or players do it when they're on a fastbreak with practically no body guard the player...

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Tue Aug 05, 2003 11:16 am

That might be OK, but no one's ever performed a between-the-legs dunk in a game (to my recollection). I guess it's possible, but I would think that most players would not be able to perform it will trying to outrun a defender.

by **Colin** on Tue Aug 05, 2003 11:59 am

Andrew wrote:That might be OK, but no one's ever performed a between-the-legs dunk in a game (to my recollection).

LEBRON!!!

He did it in a high school game but that doesn't count.

by **TRUball** on Tue Aug 05, 2003 12:57 pm

i've done a between the legs lay-up in a game before on a fast break.

but i think these following dunks should be inculded, add to the list if you want, ones that have a * beside should be on fast breaks only

Basic One Hander
Basic 2-Hander
360
Reverse
Windmill*
Between The Legs*
Soaring Dunk, 1 or 2 handed
Double Pump Dunk
2-Handed Power Dunk
1-Hand Power Dunk
Legs Spread Dunk*
Foul Line Dunk*(Maybe :mrgreen:

)

Kobe' Reverse Dunk*(^^^This One^^^)
Pass Off The Backboard Dunk*(could be a possible alley-oop, too)
Baseline Reverse Dunk
Baseline 180 Dunk
Baseline Reverse Windmill Dunk(the one Kobe did vs. Knicks and Wolves

)
Jump-Over Dunk(like when Vince jumped over duncan, and that 7'2" dude)

add more i have not thought of or say what ones you think shouldn't be in

by **Old School Fool** on Tue Aug 05, 2003 2:17 pm

Actually the dunks in NBA Live 2003 are dunks that have been done officially like the flying dunk that looks like Dee Brown's No Look well thats Vince's dunk and for those you didn't know the flying one handed dunk is a dunk Kobe did in 1999 in Las Vegas against the wizards :twisted:

and the Double Pump Slam where the guy hangs on the rim is the dunk Spud Webb did in the 86 Dunk Contest :shock:

by **Jonesy** on Tue Aug 05, 2003 2:20 pm

Ricky davis did a between the legs dunk in a game last year so it is possible but i would prefer it left out or limited to practice and fast breaks only.

I really think it would be good if the nba live series could implement a couple of different dunk ratings. For example they could have a standing dunk rating (ie Shaq at 99) a general dunk rating and a fast break dunk rating. The game should be able to recognise if you are all alone on a break and icon could appear in the top corner of the screen letting you know it was showtime!!!. This would allow players like AI to dunk when he's all alone on a break but only do layups in traffic. It (having the different ratings) could also stop centres from doing show time dunks because they would have a high standing dunk rating but a lower general rating to stop the 360's.

by **Ruff Ryder** on Tue Aug 05, 2003 10:51 pm

Jonesy wrote:Ricky davis did a between the legs dunk in a game last year so it is possible but i would prefer it left out or limited to practice and fast breaks only.

When? But i agree.

by **Old School Fool** on Wed Aug 06, 2003 8:25 am

You know whats funny? When i first started liking the NBA it was in 96-97 i play NBA Live 97 and i barely knew how gould these rookies would be but i said it to myself (i was like 7 or 8 years old :shock:

) i was like "Marbury is the next he can dunk" i was like "Yeah Kobe is next" and i also liked A.I. for his dunking in live 97 i was like "YEAH NBA STAR!"

by **TRUball** on Wed Aug 06, 2003 9:48 am

Old School Fool wrote:You know whats funny? When i first started liking the NBA it was in 96-97 i play NBA Live 97 and i barely knew how gould these rookies would be but i said it to myself (i was like 7 or 8 years old ) i was like "Marbury is the next he can dunk" i was like "Yeah Kobe is next" and i also liked A.I. for his dunking in live 97 i was like "YEAH NBA STAR!"

o....k.....

i agree different dunk ratings, like Jonesy said, like have a standing one, general and fast break, that would be cool, than if your someone like J-rich, he is more of a fast break dunker so he would have that the highest of the 3.

by **Vins15** on Wed Aug 06, 2003 10:23 am

Andrew wrote:That might be OK, but no one's ever performed a between-the-legs dunk in a game (to my recollection). I guess it's possible, but I would think that most players would not be able to perform it will trying to outrun a defender.

no last season Ricky Davis did it when he's in Key Arena playing the Sonics..he was on a fastbreak and eveybody was behind him so he did a between the leg dunk

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Wed Aug 06, 2003 1:05 pm

I stand corrected.

But it doesn't happen frequently, especially if a defender is right behind you. I have a feeling it would happen too often in Live 2004 if it was in the game.

by **Metsis** on Wed Aug 06, 2003 10:04 pm

In Live 2003 the jumping rating does effect the players ability to jump... It determines how high he can jump, but what has propably confused most of you is the fact that dunking is a generic animation and the player jumps doing it as it does in the animation and not according to his jump rating.

This should be fixed... I hate seeing a guy with a jumping of 55 do dunks as effectively as a guy with 80 rating in jumping.

I wouldn't want to see Ostertag soar through the air like Garnett or Duncan or the rest of them more athletic players.

I think the jumping does limit the range from which you can dunk a little atleast... I've had both of these players on the court the same time and there's a little difference, but dunking is too easy in 2003.

by **Filip** on Thu Aug 07, 2003 3:09 am

One other problem with the dunks in live '03 is that it sometimes looks like the players got a rocket in their ass, I mean sometimes its just like vroooooooom!! Looks stupid, and then that anoying sound, kaboom! Sounds just stupid!

Theori
The reason is that EA has decided to concentrate to do a arcade game more than a sim game, this to satisfie all console players (P2, XBOX, GAMECUB). They don't want a serious deep sim game, they want 20min full arcade action. We want 48min simulated realistic gameplay.

Personally I think that the dunks in Live '97 was the best and greatest, realistic and not to much crazy dunks (Y)

.

by **TRUball** on Thu Aug 07, 2003 3:14 am

the dunks in 2001 were pretty good too, most of hte time they just did a power dunk when they in the paint, and on the fast break they mostly did lay-ups, sometimes they do like a weird windmill dunk but it isn't a windmill it was weird....

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Thu Aug 07, 2003 10:50 am

NBA Live 2001 probably had the most realistic soft/generic dunks, with a few good power dunks thrown in for good measure.

by **Filip** on Fri Aug 08, 2003 2:20 am

Just watched some saved replays from live '01, and boy those alleyops looks real nice, looks real and not so crazy as in '03.

EA: Give a "NBA Live arcade '04" to all console players and a "NBA Live sim '04" to us simulations fans

by **Ceasar121** on Sat Aug 09, 2003 3:15 pm

Overall, the game needs more basic dunks. The fancy ones are nice, but some of the dunkpkgs players have make them a little better than they are. More BIG MAN style dunks, and standing dunks. Maybe for 2005 they could have it so that when in the air, using Freestyle ca affect the way you dunk ie up for a power version of the dunk, down for finesse, left for tomahawk or fancy version,right to cock the ball back further... I dunno. but there should be tons of normal one handed and two handed dunks, I'm talking like 25 apiece. Playing NBA 2k after a six months of playing it, I was still seeing new dunks. Live, I always see all the dunks in the first 2 weeks.

by **TRUball** on Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:09 am

Ceasar121 wrote:Overall, the game needs more basic dunks. The fancy ones are nice, but some of the dunkpkgs players have make them a little better than they are. More BIG MAN style dunks, and standing dunks. Maybe for 2005 they could have it so that when in the air, using Freestyle ca affect the way you dunk ie up for a power version of the dunk, down for finesse, left for tomahawk or fancy version,right to cock the ball back further... I dunno. but there should be tons of normal one handed and two handed dunks, I'm talking like 25 apiece. Playing NBA 2k after a six months of playing it, I was still seeing new dunks. Live, I always see all the dunks in the first 2 weeks.

I like that idea of using the freestyle control for the dunk but you should be able to choose if u wanted to do that or just make the computer do hte best dunk in the situation (i.e. in traffic, on the break, etc.). But 25 apiece of normal dunk of 1 handed and 2 handed, in real life there isn't that many variations of normal dunks like 1 handed and 2 handed. But i know what u saying by having more realistic dunks instead of lots of unrealistic dunks that would only be in dunk contests. But there should be some of those crazy dunks just not as much.

by **Fresh8** on Mon Aug 11, 2003 12:00 pm

In the NBA these days...do players go for dunks all the time or only sometimes?? At the end of games they are flogging or crucial games where the margin is about 2-4 points??? Aren't dunks just to show off or please the crowd???

See- I don't understand why some players in Live 2003 (Kobe,T-mac) just keep doing dunks on fast breaks the WHOLE game on EVERY fast-break? Why can't they do lay-ups and have the occasional dunk??? Isn't that wat happens in real life???

YouTube · by **Andrew** on Mon Aug 11, 2003 12:52 pm

Players like Shaq might very well dunk at least 3 or 4 times in a game, but other players will be more selective as to when they attempt a dunk.

by **ThisizaJackMove** on Mon Aug 11, 2003 2:50 pm

AWell If T-Mac gets a fast break he is gonna dunk the ball. Maybe not flamboyantly, but he will dunk the ball, unless there is someone running up on him and they hack.

by **Metsis** on Mon Aug 11, 2003 3:21 pm

Yeah, the problem isn't the fact that T-Mac and Kobe always dunk on the fast break in 2003, the problem is the amount of fast breaks and that is what makes it so damn dumb.

More basic dunks and nothing else to be controlled by the right hand analog stick, cause last I checked the PC keyboard didn't have one.

I ain't gonna go and buy me a lousy game pad to play a game that can be better controlled by the keyboard. The keyboard has that much more precision then a pad and that just makes it better.

Never used a game pad and never will...

by **nickia** on Mon Aug 11, 2003 6:21 pm

Andrew wrote:That might be OK, but no one's ever performed a between-the-legs dunk in a game (to my recollection). I guess it's possible, but I would think that most players would not be able to perform it will trying to outrun a defender.

Leborn James did it in his High school game

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