v. 1.17 update log

[originalsam]

Hey! How do I download this roster patch?!

[Keo]

You can't download it yet, he's in the process of making it. Once it's released, you can download it.

[malik959]

You should check out draftexpress.com it gives better profile depth and better comparison on each rookie. It's much better than nbadraft.net.

[KOBE4MVP8]

Alexbloom can you hurry up? I would like the roster patch before the end of november.

[tazfunk]

Hey Kobe4MVP8 give Alexbloom a break. He's making the patch be patient.

[Erchamion]

Any update on the progress?

[alexboom]

I'm sorry all, but I've been too busy lately to work correctly on the roster... I may be able to re-start working on it by the end of next week...

[f.t.w.]

hurry up fool! your not out fire-bombing schools and cars are you? You french people can all just.......aight aight, naw naw brother, i aint trippin like dat naw naw

[CHINABOY]

hurry up thanks!Q!!!!!

[tuanskoko]

Oi alexboom, can you also do IAM MAHINMI :D, i cant wait till he comes over next year to the spurs, atm his slowly improvin his game in the french league could be starter for spurs next season at center :D, anyway goodluck with the patch job mate, cant wait till ur patch comes out.

[sacramentofan]

Hi, i have just read the posts above, it sounds absolutely brilliant what you are doing for us alexboom - much appreciated sir! (and everyone else helping out)!
My question for anyone is - i have NBAlive04 for the ps2 -(i have the pal version here in england) will i still be able to add the roster updates to my game?
I am using a max drive to upload the file/s to my memory card, will there be a max drive file for the rosters?

Any help would be much appreciated, thanks peeps, peace

[rabbitx]

dont have a ps2, and on a curious note, how come there is a ESPANA jersey in the game but it is not used?

[alexboom]

indeed it is only available for the spanish version of the game, don't ask me why though

[tuanskoko]

Hows the progress alexboom??

[sacramentofan]

Anyone out there who could help me out with my problem i posted above?

[KOBE4MVP8]

alexbloom if you are going to take so long to make the patch why did you become a patchmaker in the first place???????????????????????????

[Sac-1]

You piece of shit!
Sorry for saying that but he is getting on my nerves. YOU IDIOt don't you think he has a life and other stuff to do and while he is trying his best and you don't know a thing about patch making you go "alexbloom if you are going to take so long to make the patch why did you become a patchmaker in the first place???????????????????????????".

[Diogo]

Agreed... if you are unhappy then make you make the roster for yourself man... you should thank him for still supporting NBA Live 2004 users...

[RipHam23232]

Ok, I'm going to sound rather contradictory here.

First off, I would liek ot thank Alexboom for continuing patchmaking for NBA Live 2004. It's great that he does it, and I'm respectful of it, because I simply have no idea how to do it or what steps to take to attempt to do it.

On the other hand though, the NBA draft occured at the end of June. Most roster moves, with a few but not many exceptions, were done by the middle of August. With the exception of low-level players, no one has changed teams or anything since the beginning of training camp. I haven't completely done my research, but I think I remember reading a post sometime in July about a roster patch being on the way. It is now November, not even a week from December. Regardless of Alexboom's work, play, school, whatever he does, it is time that he stick to his word and release a patch. He hasn't even updated us on any progress for three weeks, when he told us the starters were done. I hope he is working 20 hours a day, and sleeping the other four, because that work:time ratio on the patch is horrible Basically it has been 5 months of no significant roster change and we have no timetable for a patch? Rookies shouldn't be a problem, I don't remember his name, but I know one guy has created cyberfaces for most if not all the first rounders. I'm sure he wouldn't mind addign them to the patch if asked. That leaves second rounders, and some foreign/undrafted players. I find it hard to believe it takes 5 months to create those players. Again, I dont know much about the patching process though. Basically, if you need an example to look at, let
's examine Andrew. I'm assuming he either goes to school, or has a job. Nba-live.com can not bring in enough cash to the point of where he doesn't need to work. Andrew is working, and he still has created patches. I know for sure he has updated 2006 once, possibly twice, and that game has been out for a month and a half. Thats two more updates in 1/4 of the time. Basically it comes down to this, Alexboom: Are you making a roster patch? If so, when do you expect to release it? Do you need help working on it? I am sure some of these people can help, I would offer my hand, but my knowledge is very limited. All I know is stuff in the database needs to be changed. I dont know how to do it though. If you do not need help, how far along are you?

I think the people that are making you all angry because they are calling Alexboom out are only frustrated at the same things I am. We all appreciate his work and services, but there comes a point in time when we need to have some answers.

[Sac-1]

No but it is better to start a patch when the season starts so he can do all the movements in one roster patch, because imagine if he did it in the midle of july then he would have to do a new one like in a couple of days which doesn't make sense.

Besides maybe he is in college or Universty or something, you should see how much shit you get for homework every night.
BTW Do you know how long it takes to do all those players up there with the right info?

EDIT: And for 06 its new so he gets help from others but since 04 has been out for 2 years its hard.

[tazfunk]

I can't believe that people who are getting something for nothing are complaining. Beggars can't be choosers. KOBE4MVP8 you must be about 10 years old. Your whining is annoying like a crying baby on a plane. Nothing is stopping anyone from creating their own players. [I still play 01 as well and have to update all of the new players and team transcations myself.] Also nothing is stopping them from buying '06 and using the new patches.

Thanks Alexbloom! If there is anything we can do to assist you let us know.

[alexboom]

Firstly, I have to thank you all for your patience and your dedication to the game, I'm fully aware I'm really late with that damn roster patch. By the way, RipHam23232, you made a really constructive post, what you said was true, simply. The roster is too late and it is just my fault, I don't have any excuses.


Now let me explain:
When Andrew left the 2004 roster management for Live 2005, I offered him to take on his patch, he accepted, mainly because he knew I was able to (as I was already updating Live 2000 rosters, and because I provided some info), and a bit because there wasn't really someone else to replace him.

Quickly, I realized that updating 2004 was a real pain in the butt compared to Live 2000. The User Interface is plain awful, the ratings order must have been decided by a 4 year old dyslexic kid, and the lack of generic cyberfaces is not motivating at all when it's about creating players. But still, I continued the roster update, slowly, but surely.

Last year, a guy called Jim Raynor was constantly providing useful comments on the roster. I was really pleased because for the first time someone provided me real help on this damn roster. Indeed, he seemed so good and so implied in this update that I offered him my "position". He said OK, but a month later sent me a quick PM saying his computer was destroyed and that he might be away for some time. He never came back.

Now let me tell you the truth: I'm not as much motivated in this roster as I was before (in case if you didn't notice). There is also the fact that I don't have all the spare time I would like to. It doesn't mean I work 20h a day, it means I have a work and some housework too (mama's no longer here to cook and clean my clothes). And believe me you REALLY have less spare time than when you are student. Of course I can sit in front of my computer for leisure purposes almost everyday, but that means checking NBA sites for the latest updates, browsing the web, updating Live 2000 (not that much recently), or playing videogames (NBA Live, Championship Manager and Wolfenstein ET).

Recently, I had too many things to do the last 2 weeks to update NBA Live. Things are back to normal now, but yet I didn't launch NBA Live again.

Now, facts:

• The console UI really spoils the pleasure of updating the game, while I still have fun with Live 2000, even 6 years after
• I'm still updating the roster, I will release one. Now don't say "rookies are not a problem cause someone created their cyberfaces", cause a cyberface doesn't provide ratings and meta info
• I would have liked to get some help, I requested, and all I got was "check nba.com; it has teh latest scorebords and transactions". I didn't ask anyone to make my work at my place, but ratings suggestions for 3 or 4 players may have been appreciated
• I can't give any release date... Still too many players to be created
• I don't wanna be the 2004 "official" roster maker at all price. If someone skilled, with time and motivation appears, I will offer him my place like I did before with Jim Raynor

Lasts but not least, I have to admit that your post gave me a good kick in the butt. I'll try to invest more on that damn roster as soon as ... now (check first post)

[RipHam23232]

Thank you alexboom for the update. I have since realized I may have come off as a little arrogant as well as ignorant in my post, but I want you all to know that wasn't the intention. Alexboom, if you want some help, I can give you advice on players ratings and such. I would like to help with the actual patching, but I just don't have the knowledge level needed. I don't check this website everyday, but you can pm me if you'd like. The best way to get a hold of me would be by AIM. My screen name is RipHam23232, and you don't have to worry about me not being online, I just always put up an away message so you can still talk to me.

[f.t.w.]

yeah, yeah, yeah, big ups, big ups now...all respect and propahz....yeah little things can come up in life sometimes, i know sometimes in my life, like a little thing will come up y'know, and it just really takes its toll. Man, hang tough bro', you know you'll shine like that star you are in the end BROTHA LOVE!!!!!

[alexboom]

Hey Rip, no problem I didn't feel any arrogancy in your post, just a bit of ignorance, but your rants were constructive and fair

F.T.W., I have 2 questions:
What do you smoke?
Do you have some left?