:: Tats n Bands Updates 1/12/2k3 ::

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Postby arden_05 on Thu Nov 20, 2003 11:35 am

Rey-J can you make Chauncey Billups, Dajuan Wagner, Derrick Coleman, and enhance Lebron tatoos a little bit..just a little ...thanx
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Postby Vins15 on Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:26 pm

how about some screenshot of those tats mate?
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Postby Tony on Thu Nov 20, 2003 10:38 pm

Vins15 wrote:how about some screenshot of those tats mate?
why? just open the fsh files to see the tats... taking screenshots for patches takes more time, and you'd probably get less great patches like these if he had to do it for every player.
ReyJ wrote:One thing though, I can't seem to alternate between home and away bands. Don't know why, I thought it would be the same format as last editions. Ohh well. But if anyone can figure it out, please let me know.
.viv patching doesn't support all customart features... atleast it didn't when i tried it.

what works:
new cyberfaces
new headshapes
tattoo files (blar, brar, bskn) and such.

what doesn't work:
custom shoes home/away/prxx
custom practice gears
custom headbands
_acc_home/_acc_away/_acc_prxx
beye files
bmou files
...

so, in other words, viv patching sucks major ass. EA better give us a patch. soon.

oh... and nice tats Rey J, good to see you back in the game ;)
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Postby Bl@ck_Thorne on Thu Nov 20, 2003 10:44 pm

yeah i think we need a patch from EA
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Postby DR. P on Fri Nov 21, 2003 8:34 am

Tony wrote:
Vins15 wrote:how about some screenshot of those tats mate?
why? just open the fsh files to see the tats... taking screenshots for patches takes more time, and you'd probably get less great patches like these if he had to do it for every player.
ReyJ wrote:One thing though, I can't seem to alternate between home and away bands. Don't know why, I thought it would be the same format as last editions. Ohh well. But if anyone can figure it out, please let me know.
.viv patching doesn't support all customart features... atleast it didn't when i tried it.

what works:
new cyberfaces
new headshapes
tattoo files (blar, brar, bskn) and such.

what doesn't work:
custom shoes home/away/prxx
custom practice gears
custom headbands
_acc_home/_acc_away/_acc_prxx
beye files
bmou files
...

so, in other words, viv patching sucks major ass. EA better give us a patch. soon.


Thanks Tony for the info. But I have 2 small question that you're expertise should be able to help me with.

First, which player from the xplayer.viv file has an _acc.fsh file that includes a bskn graphic file? I know AI has an _acc.fsh accessory file in his .viv file, but it doesn't include a bskn file. The reason I ask is because I looked for a player with a bskn graphic file to copy and use as a template so I wouldn't have to use the "customart 1" feature to run my game and deal with the accompanying lag time. If I new a player that's in the xplayer.viv file with that type of accessory file I could snag him.

Second, in terms of adding my own custom players to the current xplayer.viv file, and not relying on the "customart 1" setting to get tats, etc., how would I do it? Using the current approach its easy to add a players .viv file to xplayer.viv file, and to change the players name on that respective.viv file. But how does one change the name of the files within the players .viv file (e.g., playerx.fsh, playerx_acc.fsh, playerx_loda, etc.)? This has racked my brain quite a bit and I'm trying to use the updated EAgraph to do it but it won't let me change the name of those imbedded fsh files. Now if I import the new .viv file with just the new players name changed (e.g.,now it reads as 'playerx.viv') into the xplayer.viv file, with some other player's name on the rest of the imbedded files (with AI's data embeeded within the 'xplayerx.viv' file, e.g., alivers.fsh, alivers_acc.fsh, etc.) will this treat the imbeed player's info as unique to playerx (assuming that I've changed the player.dbf file to reflect the player package of 'PLAYERX'? (SORRY IF I'M CONFUSING ANYONE, I KNOW ITS NOT AS CLEAR AS IT SHOULD BE WRITTEN).

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Postby Full Surface on Fri Nov 21, 2003 10:15 am

Vins15 wrote:how about some screenshot of those tats mate?


ReyJ's tattoos are great. There's no need for screenshots. I consider all of them a "must-download" patch.
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Postby Colin on Fri Nov 21, 2003 11:56 am

Dr. P, about your first question, EA uses a method of tat patching where they make the tattoo then but a transparent black background around it and name it so it ends up in the right place. Check anjamis.viv and click his acc file and you will see his orange tattoo with a black background.
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Postby MJ_realm on Fri Nov 21, 2003 2:05 pm

First, which player from the xplayer.viv file has an _acc.fsh file that includes a bskn graphic file?


I think no one includes a bskn file... But u can add a bskn file using nfshtool. Adding some codes etc..

Second, in terms of adding my own custom players to the current xplayer.viv file


You mean changing the file names such as alivers_acc.fsh, alivers.fsh to your corresponding custom player player_acc.fsh, player.fsh? You could use eazip or vivmagic to extract the files from the VIV. Then rename the files and pack it back. Hope that helps. :wink:
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custom player and tattoo-adding tutorials

Postby Tony on Fri Nov 21, 2003 10:28 pm

Hey Dr.P,
question 1: EA didn't make any players with BSKN files included in the ACC. as others already have pointed out, if you wish to add a new skin file to a player that has tattoos, use NFSHTOOL, mess with the text codes in index.fsh and alpha.dat that file generates when opening a texture FSH files. if you just want a template for a BSKN file, without keeping the original tats a player may have, just download one of Rey J's tattoo patches, their format is right, and can be used as a template.

question 2: Now, this is tricky. Might aswell sticky this post so others don't miss it, since it'll get pretty detailed. It all can be done with Don Daily's powerful EAZip tool (nba2kstuff.nba-live.net). First, you need to create a text batch file, which you should put along with EAZip.exe (which you can find at the URL I posted earlier) into the NBA Live 2004\render\ directory.

To create the batch file, first create a text file, with the code below pasted in it. As you may notice, I took Reggie Miller's files as an example, since they have an ACC file, and all. If you don't want an ACC file in your custom player, simply erase all words that have ACC in it.

Code: Select all
eazip.exe -e xplayer.viv remille.viv

eazip.exe -e remille.viv remille.fsh remille_acc.fsh remille_loda.o remille_lodau.o remille_lodc.o remille_lodcu.o remille_lodd.o remille_loddu.o remille_suit_loda.o

eazip.exe -d remille.viv remille.fsh remille_acc.fsh remille_loda.o remille_lodau.o remille_lodc.o remille_lodcu.o remille_lodd.o remille_loddu.o remille_suit_loda.o

ren remille.fsh customp.fsh
ren remille_acc.fsh customp_acc.fsh
ren remille_loda.o customp_loda.o
ren remille_lodau.o customp_lodau.o
ren remille_lodc.o customp_lodc.o
ren remille_lodcu.o customp_lodcu.o
ren remille_lodd.o customp_lodd.o
ren remille_loddu.o customp_loddu.o
ren remille_suit_loda.o customp_suit_loda.o
ren remille.viv customp.viv

eazip.exe -a customp.viv customp.fsh customp_acc.fsh customp_loda.o customp_lodau.o customp_lodc.o customp_lodcu.o customp_lodd.o customp_loddu.o customp_suit_loda.o

del customp.fsh
del customp_acc.fsh
del customp_loda.o
del customp_lodau.o
del customp_lodc.o
del customp_lodcu.o
del customp_lodd.o
del customp_loddu.o
del customp_suit_loda.o

From this text, just replace the CUSTOMP abbrevation to what your custom player's name will be (for example, Dennis Rodman will be DERODMA), or Reggie Miller's REMILLE with the abbrevation any player from the xplayer.viv has. Save your TXT file, that should be, as I pointed out earlier, placed in the NBA Live 2004\render directory. Change the .TXT extension the file has into .BAT, and then run that batch file.

Now you should have your custom player .viv file in the \render\ directory, with edited name abbrevations in it. Do your other image editing from there on. Hope it made atleast some sense, it might look complicated, but really it isn't at all.





:arrow: Oh, and since I'm on a tutorial rampage, here's something for Rey J. You should also use EAZip, so you don't have to include full .viv files in your tattoo patches, and reduce the files in the size department, and to prevent your tattoo patches overwrite, with EA's default faces, any other face patch a user might have installed into his xplayer.viv, for a player you made a tattoo patch for. Simply use this code for a batch installation (Anfernee Hardaway example):
Code: Select all
@echo off
echo THIS FILE MUST BE RUN FROM THE MAIN NBA LIVE 2004 FOLDER
echo EAZIP.EXE MUST BE IN THE \RENDER FOLDER!
pause >nul
cd render
eazip.exe -e xplayer.viv anharda.viv

eazip.exe -e anharda.viv anharda.fsh anharda_acc.fsh anharda_loda.o anharda_lodau.o anharda_lodc.o anharda_lodcu.o anharda_lodd.o anharda_loddu.o anharda_suit_loda.o

cd..
MOVE anharda_acc.fsh render
cd render
eazip.exe -a anharda.viv anharda.fsh anharda_acc.fsh anharda_loda.o anharda_lodau.o anharda_lodc.o anharda_lodcu.o anharda_lodd.o anharda_loddu.o anharda_suit_loda.o

del anharda.fsh
del anharda_acc.fsh
del anharda_loda.o
del anharda_lodau.o
del anharda_lodc.o
del anharda_lodcu.o
del anharda_lodd.o
del anharda_loddu.o
del anharda_suit_loda.o

eazip.exe -a xplayer.viv anharda.viv
del anharda.viv
echo INSTALLATION FINISHED

Again, this example above is if your player already has an ACC file. If he doesn't, use this code (Jason Richardson example):
Code: Select all
@echo off
echo THIS FILE MUST BE RUN FROM THE MAIN NBA LIVE 2004 FOLDER
echo EAZIP.EXE MUST BE IN THE \RENDER FOLDER!
pause >nul
cd render
eazip.exe -e xplayer.viv jaricha.viv

eazip.exe -e jaricha.viv jaricha.fsh jaricha_loda.o jaricha_lodau.o jaricha_lodc.o jaricha_lodcu.o jaricha_lodd.o jaricha_loddu.o jaricha_suit_loda.o

cd..
MOVE jaricha_acc.fsh render
cd render
eazip.exe -a jaricha.viv jaricha.fsh jaricha_acc.fsh jaricha_loda.o jaricha_lodau.o jaricha_lodc.o jaricha_lodcu.o jaricha_lodd.o jaricha_loddu.o jaricha_suit_loda.o

del jaricha.fsh
del jaricha_acc.fsh
del jaricha_loda.o
del jaricha_lodau.o
del jaricha_lodc.o
del jaricha_lodcu.o
del jaricha_lodd.o
del jaricha_loddu.o
del jaricha_suit_loda.o

eazip.exe -a xplayer.viv jaricha.viv
del jaricha.viv
echo INSTALLATION FINISHED
This way I installed Rey J's jaricha_acc.fsh into the xplayer.viv without messing with the face I installed for him earlier.

Whew.
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Postby MJ_realm on Fri Nov 21, 2003 10:37 pm

Whoa that was a long one Tony. Very detailed. (Y) Anyone will sticky this? :wink:
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Postby Tony on Fri Nov 21, 2003 10:51 pm

i'll re-post it in the patching issues, so the post is at the top of a thread or something. they can sticky it there.
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Postby ReyJ on Sat Nov 22, 2003 4:20 am

Sweet! Tony, thanks for taking the time to write out that tute, I'm sure it'll help all patchers out!

Does anyone know where I can get EAZIP?

While I'm at it, here's the latest releases...

:!: Vince Carter Bands
:!: Eddy Curry Tats
:!: Jalen Rose Tats
:!: Eddie Robinson Tats
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Postby Tony on Sat Nov 22, 2003 5:09 am

ReyJ wrote:Does anyone know where I can get EAZIP?

Like I already wrote:It all can be done with Don Daily's powerful EAZip tool (nba2kstuff.nba-live.net). First, you need to create a text batch file, which you should put along with EAZip.exe (which you can find at the URL I posted earlier) into the NBA Live 2004\render\ directory.

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Re: custom player and tattoo-adding tutorials

Postby DR. P on Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:02 am

Tony wrote:Hey Dr.P,
question 1: EA didn't make any players with BSKN files included in the ACC. as others already have pointed out, if you wish to add a new skin file to a player that has tattoos, use NFSHTOOL, mess with the text codes in index.fsh and alpha.dat that file generates when opening a texture FSH files. if you just want a template for a BSKN file, without keeping the original tats a player may have, just download one of Rey J's tattoo patches, their format is right, and can be used as a template.

question 2: Now, this is tricky. Might aswell sticky this post so others don't miss it, since it'll get pretty detailed. It all can be done with Don Daily's powerful EAZip tool (nba2kstuff.nba-live.net). First, you need to create a text batch file, which you should put along with EAZip.exe (which you can find at the URL I posted earlier) into the NBA Live 2004\render\ directory.

To create the batch file, first create a text file, with the code below pasted in it. As you may notice, I took Reggie Miller's files as an example, since they have an ACC file, and all. If you don't want an ACC file in your custom player, simply erase all words that have ACC in it.

Code: Select all
eazip.exe -e xplayer.viv remille.viv

eazip.exe -e remille.viv remille.fsh remille_acc.fsh remille_loda.o remille_lodau.o remille_lodc.o remille_lodcu.o remille_lodd.o remille_loddu.o remille_suit_loda.o

eazip.exe -d remille.viv remille.fsh remille_acc.fsh remille_loda.o remille_lodau.o remille_lodc.o remille_lodcu.o remille_lodd.o remille_loddu.o remille_suit_loda.o

ren remille.fsh customp.fsh
ren remille_acc.fsh customp_acc.fsh
ren remille_loda.o customp_loda.o
ren remille_lodau.o customp_lodau.o
ren remille_lodc.o customp_lodc.o
ren remille_lodcu.o customp_lodcu.o
ren remille_lodd.o customp_lodd.o
ren remille_loddu.o customp_loddu.o
ren remille_suit_loda.o customp_suit_loda.o
ren remille.viv customp.viv

eazip.exe -a customp.viv customp.fsh customp_acc.fsh customp_loda.o customp_lodau.o customp_lodc.o customp_lodcu.o customp_lodd.o customp_loddu.o customp_suit_loda.o

del customp.fsh
del customp_acc.fsh
del customp_loda.o
del customp_lodau.o
del customp_lodc.o
del customp_lodcu.o
del customp_lodd.o
del customp_loddu.o
del customp_suit_loda.o

From this text, just replace the CUSTOMP abbrevation to what your custom player's name will be (for example, Dennis Rodman will be DERODMA), or Reggie Miller's REMILLE with the abbrevation any player from the xplayer.viv has. Save your TXT file, that should be, as I pointed out earlier, placed in the NBA Live 2004\render directory. Change the .TXT extension the file has into .BAT, and then run that batch file.

Now you should have your custom player .viv file in the \render\ directory, with edited name abbrevations in it. Do your other image editing from there on. Hope it made atleast some sense, it might look complicated, but really it isn't at all.





:arrow: Oh, and since I'm on a tutorial rampage, here's something for Rey J. You should also use EAZip, so you don't have to include full .viv files in your tattoo patches, and reduce the files in the size department, and to prevent your tattoo patches overwrite, with EA's default faces, any other face patch a user might have installed into his xplayer.viv, for a player you made a tattoo patch for. Simply use this code for a batch installation (Anfernee Hardaway example):
Code: Select all
@echo off
echo THIS FILE MUST BE RUN FROM THE MAIN NBA LIVE 2004 FOLDER
echo EAZIP.EXE MUST BE IN THE \RENDER FOLDER!
pause >nul
cd render
eazip.exe -e xplayer.viv anharda.viv

eazip.exe -e anharda.viv anharda.fsh anharda_acc.fsh anharda_loda.o anharda_lodau.o anharda_lodc.o anharda_lodcu.o anharda_lodd.o anharda_loddu.o anharda_suit_loda.o

cd..
MOVE anharda_acc.fsh render
cd render
eazip.exe -a anharda.viv anharda.fsh anharda_acc.fsh anharda_loda.o anharda_lodau.o anharda_lodc.o anharda_lodcu.o anharda_lodd.o anharda_loddu.o anharda_suit_loda.o

del anharda.fsh
del anharda_acc.fsh
del anharda_loda.o
del anharda_lodau.o
del anharda_lodc.o
del anharda_lodcu.o
del anharda_lodd.o
del anharda_loddu.o
del anharda_suit_loda.o

eazip.exe -a xplayer.viv anharda.viv
del anharda.viv
echo INSTALLATION FINISHED

Again, this example above is if your player already has an ACC file. If he doesn't, use this code (Jason Richardson example):
Code: Select all
@echo off
echo THIS FILE MUST BE RUN FROM THE MAIN NBA LIVE 2004 FOLDER
echo EAZIP.EXE MUST BE IN THE \RENDER FOLDER!
pause >nul
cd render
eazip.exe -e xplayer.viv jaricha.viv

eazip.exe -e jaricha.viv jaricha.fsh jaricha_loda.o jaricha_lodau.o jaricha_lodc.o jaricha_lodcu.o jaricha_lodd.o jaricha_loddu.o jaricha_suit_loda.o

cd..
MOVE jaricha_acc.fsh render
cd render
eazip.exe -a jaricha.viv jaricha.fsh jaricha_acc.fsh jaricha_loda.o jaricha_lodau.o jaricha_lodc.o jaricha_lodcu.o jaricha_lodd.o jaricha_loddu.o jaricha_suit_loda.o

del jaricha.fsh
del jaricha_acc.fsh
del jaricha_loda.o
del jaricha_lodau.o
del jaricha_lodc.o
del jaricha_lodcu.o
del jaricha_lodd.o
del jaricha_loddu.o
del jaricha_suit_loda.o

eazip.exe -a xplayer.viv jaricha.viv
del jaricha.viv
echo INSTALLATION FINISHED
This way I installed Rey J's jaricha_acc.fsh into the xplayer.viv without messing with the face I installed for him earlier.

Whew.


Thanks for the help Toni and thanks guys for the other insights. I'll try this method. Thanks Toni for the details they are greatly appreciated. You're the best and please believe it!!!!

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Postby Lenkbron on Sun Nov 23, 2003 4:53 am

you wanted to send me your patches... :wink:
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Postby ReyJ on Mon Nov 24, 2003 9:38 am

Lidstrom#5 Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 4:53 am Post subject:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

you wanted to send me your patches...


What? I sent them to you the day you asked for them. Hmm. :roll:

I've added some new stuff, but I didn't add the batch file method just yet, didn't have the time. So bare with me for a bit coz I've been real busy with things.

Anyway, here's what I've got.

:!: Redid Jalen Rose and Sean Rooks and made the tats slightly lighter
:!: Donyell Marshall Tats
:!: Jamal Crawford Tats
:!: Speedy Claxton Tats
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Postby arden_05 on Mon Nov 24, 2003 9:52 am

umm...don't see the patches on your website (Donyell Marshall, Speedy Claxton, Jamal Crawford etc.) are not on your website.
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Postby keisuke on Mon Nov 24, 2003 10:28 am

me too,
also ReyJ!!!
l notice one problem on your tattos.
I use a vivmagic to install your patch, but l just find that this can only show the tattos like file name called badavis_acc.fsh.
Any acc file with name badavis_acc_away.fsh or badavis_acc_home.fsh will not show in the game... do you know if there is any way to solve this problem...
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Postby ReyJ on Mon Nov 24, 2003 11:17 am

Check it again fellas...

About the _home and _away acc files, they don't work with viv files, I just didn't remove it. They will only work when customart is on 1 and when those files are stored in a folder.

I know it sucks, but there's not much else I can do about it.

We can only hope for a patch from EA....
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Postby diafenes on Mon Nov 24, 2003 7:52 pm

ReyJ, your patches kickass :D (Y) ....just one thing tyson chandler, can't wait till you make&release your patch for him.
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Postby ReyJ on Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:16 pm

Some new stuff fellas...

:!: Ricky Davis Tats
:!: Steven Hunter Tats
:!: Tyson Chandler Tats in skin tone 4 (default by EA which is the wrong skin tone) I have it in skin tone 3 and also saved the tats in .psp format in case someone wants to make a custom skin for him.
:!: Jamal Mashburn fixed leg brace. I tried to make a cyberface for Mash, but didn't look that good. I hope someone can find the time to make a better cyberface for him too.

Cheers fellas.
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Postby Lenkbron on Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:30 am

ReyJ wrote:
Lidstrom#5 Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 4:53 am Post subject:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

you wanted to send me your patches...


What? I sent them to you the day you asked for them. Hmm. :roll:

I've added some new stuff, but I didn't add the batch file method just yet, didn't have the time. So bare with me for a bit coz I've been real busy with things.

Anyway, here's what I've got.

:!: Redid Jalen Rose and Sean Rooks and made the tats slightly lighter
:!: Donyell Marshall Tats
:!: Jamal Crawford Tats
:!: Speedy Claxton Tats

i didn´t want to offend you,really,but i didn´t receive anything!!!
love your work and hope you will try to send it one more time?!?

kurt.warner@gmx.net

thanks mate
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Postby Jeremy_001 on Fri Nov 28, 2003 2:55 am

He Reyj,

Little question, Can I complete copy the .viv file that I've downloaded and paste in the Xplayer?

Or can you tell how to use .viv magic with your files cus I'didnt get it done!
Thanx J.
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Postby ReyJ on Fri Nov 28, 2003 11:43 am

I want to seperate the _acc files from the player *.viv files and just use batch files for them, however, I've been juggling time between school work, work and playing the game itself, so I've never really found the time.

But here's a quick tutorial which may help...

1) Go to VIVMagic and click on the WinRAR icon, this extracts the xplayer.viv file. There's only 2 icons, the WinRAR icon is the one on the left.

2) Browse for your xplayer.viv file. I'm sure you know where that is. :)

3) Once it's completed extracting all *.viv files go to your NBA Live directory and then /render/xplayer folder. This is where all the player *.viv files are extracted to.

4) Now simply unzip the file you got from me and place it in that directory. You will have to overwrite any existing file.

5) Go back to VIVMagic and click on the WinZIP icon, which of course is the one on the right. Go to your /render/xplayer folder and you will see this file called xplayer.idx. This is what's used to zip up all the player *.viv files (including my patch) back into xplayer.viv.

6) Once it finishes, you're all set! Oh and by the way, this process makes a backup of your original xplayer.viv file. I should say a backup of the xplayer.viv file before you added my patch.

7) Load the game and you should be able to see the updates!
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Postby ReyJ on Fri Nov 28, 2003 1:08 pm

:!: Redid Darrell Armstrong Tats
:!: Tony Battie Tats
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