The Most Realistic Result I've Had So Far... Check It Out

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The Most Realistic Result I've Had So Far... Check It Out

Postby wangster on Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:23 am

I played a game on all-star difficulty at 12 minute quarters. Here are the stats.

Entire Game Utah New Orleans

Points 82 102
Bench Scoring 21 13
Field Goals 33/78 41/93
Field Goal % .423 .441
3 Point FG 1/14 5/24
3 Point % .071 .208
Free Throws 15/20 15/22
Free Throw % .750 .682
Rebounds 43 52
Off. Rebounds 5 10
Def. Rebounds 38 42
Blocks 5 1
Steals 2 11
Assists 14 19
Turnovers 17 14
Fouls 24 21

Not bad, don't you think? I used New Orleans and with Baron Davis in fould trouble for most of the game, Mashburn had to take a bulk of the offensive load. He finished with 39pts on 16 for 30 shooting and 8 rebounds. Utah, as it should be in real life, was very even with their scoring with no one standing out from the rest. Kirilenko got off to a quick start but Deshawn Stevenson ended up with the most points. Oh yeah, and Courtney Alexander got injured in the second quarter and made a return near the end of the game. Overall, a very realistic game, which was pretty close until the fourth quarter where I pulled away with smothering defense and aggressive attacks.

Here are my slider settings:
GLOBAL
game speed 40
free throw difficulty 50
boundary force field 50
injury frequency 50
fatigue effect 45
charge/block foul frequency 25
shooting foul frequency 78
reach-in foul frequency 67
in-air collision foul frequency 62
GAMEPLAY
steal ability user 40 cpu 30
interception ability user 40 cpu 30
shot block ability user 35 cpu 35
dunk/layup block ability user 35 cpu 35
freestyle effectiveness user 50 cpu 40
user dunk vs lay-up frequency 20
substitution frequency user 0 cpu 55
on-ball assist 100
offensive rebounding user 90 cpu 90
defensive rebounding user 50 cpu 50
fakeout discipline user 95 cpu 85
cpu dunk frequency 15
short range shooting user 45 cpu 35
medium range shooting user 50 cpu 40
long range shooting user 45 cpu 30
dunk percentage user 45 cpu 45
lay-up percentage user 40 cpu 40
adjusted shot percentage user 55 cpu 38
on-ball physical defense user 90 cpu 45
poor release shot percentage user 40 cpu 30
double-team effectiveness user 30 cpu 30
cpu adjusted shot frequency 35

Some of these settings were borrowed from Ben Bailey's settings. I know some of you may think I have much lower settings for cpu but I think it helps in reducing the number of time they shoot and leads to realistic scores. I make up for it by switching my player constantly on defense so that I will be playing as honestly as possible. In fact, it is infinitely better to play defense like that so you can by yourself limit the production and movement of the guards so the cpu will have to play more deliberate basketball on each possession. Anyways, try it out and I hope you guys get realistic results too.

EDIT: Here is another game...

Entire Game Golden State Toronto

Points 81 106
Bench Scoring 11 41
Field Goals 26/80 48/83
Field Goal % .325 .578
3 Point FG 6/35 7/18
3 Point % .171 .389
Free Throws 23/31 3/7
Free Throw % .742 .429
Rebounds 42 49
Off. Rebounds 10 5
Def. Rebounds 32 44
Blocks 9 4
Steals 4 6
Assists 14 33
Turnovers 12 13
Fouls 12 26

Both games have lopsided scores in my favour, but trust me, these slider settings are not designed to make the game easier on all-star difficulty. If you take too many chances on offense, waste too much time, or play lazy defense, you WILL get blown out by the cpu.
Last edited by wangster on Wed Nov 19, 2003 11:48 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Postby scholt on Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:28 am

all looks very good, but imo, 40 game speed is TOO slow, i wish we could find a way to get realistic scores wihout making the game crawl
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Postby FanOfAll on Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:57 am

Global Sliders:
Game Speed: 50
Free Throw Difficulty: 60
Boundary Force Field: 50
Injury Freq: 50
Fatigue Effect: 50
Charge/Block Freq: 15
Shooting Foul Freq: 25
Reach-In Foul Freq: 25
In-Air Collision Foul Freq: 50

User:
Steal Ability: 40
Interception Ability: 50
Shot Blocking: 50
Dunk/Layup Blocking: 50
User Freestyle: 60
Dunk vs Layup Freq: 50
Substitution: 50
On-Ball Assist: 60
Offensive Rebounds: 50
Defensive Rebounds: 50
Fake Out Discipline: 100
Short Range %: 50
Medium Range %: 50
Long Range %: 50
Dunk %: 50
Layup %: 50
Adjusted Shot %: 50
On-Ball Physical Defense: 60
Poor Release %: 50
Double Team: 50

CPU:
Steal Ability: 40
Interception Ability: 40
Shot Blocking: 40
Dunk/Layup Blocking: 35
User Freestyle: 50
Dunk vs Layup Freq: 50
Substitution: 50
On-Ball Assist: 50
Offensive Rebounds: 50
Defensive Rebounds: 50
Fake Out Discipline: 50
Short Range %: 50
Medium Range %: 50
Long Range %: 50
Dunk %: 50
Layup %: 50
Adjusted Shot %: 50
On-Ball Physical Defense: 45
Poor Release %: 50
Double Team: 50

basically the one Andrew uses with a few tweaks. All-Star, 8 minute quarters, just played a Philly-NY game, where it was me 101, NY 93. Great game, wire to wire. Very realistic stats
Pos. No. Name Pts Mins FGM FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% FTM FTA FT% OReb DReb Rebs Blk Stl Ast TO Fouls

PF 44 D. Coleman 13 14 5 6 .833 0 0 .000 3 6 .500 0 8 8 0 0 2 0 0
C 1 S. Dalembert 2 10 1 1 1.000 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 0 8 8 2 0 1 0 1
SG 33 W. Green 0 0 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
SG 3 A. Iverson 36 26 17 29 .586 1 5 .200 1 1 1.000 0 2 2 0 1 1 3 0
C 25 M. Jackson 0 17 0 2 .000 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 0 5 5 2 0 2 0 2
C 00 A. McCaskill 0 0 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
SG 8 A. McKie 10 15 5 10 .500 0 1 .000 0 0 .000 0 3 3 0 0 1 0 0
SF 31 G. Robinson 23 22 7 14 .500 5 11 .454 4 4 1.000 0 6 6 0 0 2 0 0
SF 7 J. Salmons 0 12 0 3 .000 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 0 1 1 0 0 0 1 1
PG 20 E. Snow 8 23 4 10 .400 0 2 .000 0 0 .000 1 6 7 1 3 6 4 2
PF 9 K. Thomas 9 21 3 4 .750 0 0 .000 3 4 .750 1 9 10 1 0 2 3 0
SF 5 M. Williams 0 5 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 0 0 .000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0


too bad i didnt save the team stats, though the FG% were pretty accurate. my FT% sucked because I'm still getting used to it :D
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Postby Ymakino on Tue Nov 18, 2003 12:02 pm

your fouls are down too low! you've got like 3team fouls for the whole game :).
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Postby FanOfAll on Tue Nov 18, 2003 12:09 pm

That's true. didn't notice that, thanks :) I'll have to change it.
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Postby wangster on Thu Nov 20, 2003 11:21 am

Here's the best one so far. Just finished it ten minutes ago. I was the Pacers.

Entire Game Memphis Indiana

Points 90 84
Bench Scoring 0 24
Field Goals 37/75 36/82
Field Goal % .493 .439
3 Point FG 3/18 4/17
3 Point % .167 .235
Free Throws 13/15 8/12
Free Throw % .867 .667
Rebounds 43 35
Off. Rebounds 2 4
Def. Rebounds 41 31
Blocks 4 7
Steals 8 9
Assists 21 25
Turnovers 16 20
Fouls 11 14

I made a little too many mistakes near the end of the game and could not complete the comeback. I was able to play a very balanced game with Jermaine O'neal producing near the paint and the outside shooters making big shots. But I noticed that Mike Miller and Jason Williams actually played for the whole 48 minutes so I might have to raise CPU substitution a little bit.
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