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Jump shooting players keep driving to the basket!

Sun Nov 16, 2003 5:15 am

Ok this game for all the improvements is now getting on my nerves. I played a couple games against Dallas to test this nonsense and kept backing off my defender all the way off Finley , Nash and Nowitski giving them wide open jump shots and instead of taking the jumpshot they keep pro hopping to the basket or passing the ball in to the post. I mean Im giving thee guys so much room yet this team that takes so many jumpshots refuses to do so :evil: . Whats the point of playign off your man if every old fart wants to drive to the basket like they are kobe or Tmac? :x.

I even switch to zone D letting their guards stay wide open and clogging the paint, still no one wants to shoot the jump shots. what the hell is going on??

Re: Jump shooting players keep driving to the basket!

Sun Nov 16, 2003 5:23 am

Clay wrote:Ok this game for all the improvements is now getting on my nerves. I played a couple games against Dallas to test this nonsense and kept backing off my defender all the way off Finley , Nash and Nowitski giving them wide open jump shots and instead of taking the jumpshot they keep pro hopping to the basket or passing the ball in to the post. I mean Im giving thee guys so much room yet this team that takes so many jumpshots refuses to do so :evil: . Whats the point of playign off your man if every old fart wants to drive to the basket like they are kobe or Tmac? :x.

I even switch to zone D letting their guards stay wide open and clogging the paint, still no one wants to shoot the jump shots. what the hell is going on??


I feel the same way you do. It's to the point now where I am really considering just not playing sports games again. I have already given up on football and now it seems basketball has let me down.

I would rather just watch the reallife thing than frustrate myself worrying with this tihs.

Sun Nov 16, 2003 5:33 am

yea like allan houston.....i changed the comps plays but they'll drive do a layup or short jumper or if u dont givethem that, when there is about 10 secs left they'll launch and outsied shot 3 or long 2 with whoever the ball gets to

i know i tried the 1 3 1 zone where u have on guy covering the 3 outside men and they would still drive or feed it inside

Sun Nov 16, 2003 8:14 am

I think EA should make tweaks that would fix the problem for next year. They add a slider for open drive Frequency, and a slider for 3-point frequency. They also should add a toughness rating. A player with high toughness is more likely to drive to the hoop, and also more likely to get fouled. A player with low toughness won't drive to the hoop much, is less likely to draw a foul, and gets worse the more he's hit.

Sun Nov 16, 2003 8:44 am

sixerfan03 wrote:I think EA should make tweaks that would fix the problem for next year. They add a slider for open drive Frequency, and a slider for 3-point frequency. They also should add a toughness rating. A player with high toughness is more likely to drive to the hoop, and also more likely to get fouled. A player with low toughness won't drive to the hoop much, is less likely to draw a foul, and gets worse the more he's hit.


Just as we have a plethra of sliders to adjust the percentage of the shots that we can shoot are made, we should also have a sliders for each type of shot that we have that will adjust the frequency of that shot. Just like there is a dunk and lay-up frequency slider, there should also be a slider for mid-range and 3pt shot frequency.

Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:05 am

yea thats a real good idea like for the comp....they should have it like madden like where u pick if ur qb plays in the pocket or moves around or if your running back uses power or speed so its different for every player and every team

Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:31 am

but don't you think there is a solution to handle that problem in this version of NBA Live ??? I mean I don't want to wait another year as last year when I played Live 2003 almost 2 weeks before getting bored.
I can't imagine developers forgot about an easy jumpshot... I tried different configurations but all without success... I really don't know why they do that...
The game looks really good so far and I'm surprised by all the new features... post moves, interceptions... everything looks great - but hey guys... an easy jumpshot....????!!!!! :x :x :x :x :x :x :x

Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:35 am

Yeah that bugs me. And they'll drive into 3 players, cross-over one, pro-hop through 2 and dunk =\.

The other thing that's annoying is someone like Dirk will take a wide-open 17 footer and miss? Huh? :roll:

The last thing is that it's kinda hard to defend the CPU in the post, but hard to score for me in the post. I back him down, but he won't go any further, then take a shot and he tries an off-balanced jump shot instead of a hook...and misses.

BTW, I noticed this thread...good stuff
http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~nbalive/ph ... hp?t=10113

Sun Nov 16, 2003 9:42 am

u guys r lucky, im playing with default sliders except fatigue and damn guys will shoot as soon they get the ball with no mark, they kill me :p
wahts weird that I had damn ahrd time vs Clips and beat Spurs easily coz they Duncan would dump the ball immeadiatly after double teamed and tried few shots.

Sun Nov 16, 2003 10:36 am

Gaucho wrote:u guys r lucky, im playing with default sliders except fatigue and damn guys will shoot as soon they get the ball with no mark, they kill me :p
wahts weird that I had damn ahrd time vs Clips and beat Spurs easily coz they Duncan would dump the ball immeadiatly after double teamed and tried few shots.


yea but do they shoot 3' or mid range b/c when i play comp even if the clock is running down they try to step back and shoot the 3

Sun Nov 16, 2003 12:09 pm

Yeah I have the same problem. They just won't stop taking it inside. I've blocked 8 shots with Rasheed Wallace in one quarter. That's right with RASHEED not even with BEN. They just don't want to take jumpers. I've tried playing zone but to no avail. :roll:

Sun Nov 16, 2003 12:44 pm

i don't think there is a way to fix this b/c i was playing and it seems like as soon as the comp sees a lane they drive and if their isnt one they move the ball till they find a defender sleeping and then drive...if the can't find that they launch a 3

i always look at the shot chart after the game and the comp has a few makes from outside then everything else within 15 feet from the key but like 10 feet from the sides

and it wouldn't be that bad if it was only their makes but all their attempts are in those areas i mean i had a few games where not counting 3's the farthest jumper they took were from about 13 out

Sun Nov 16, 2003 4:10 pm

sixerfan03 wrote:I think EA should make tweaks that would fix the problem for next year. They add a slider for open drive Frequency, and a slider for 3-point frequency. They also should add a toughness rating. A player with high toughness is more likely to drive to the hoop, and also more likely to get fouled. A player with low toughness won't drive to the hoop much, is less likely to draw a foul, and gets worse the more he's hit.

well... EA might as well just make NBA Live 2005 an open source program... .then, we can do whatever the hell we want with the game :lol:

Sun Nov 16, 2003 6:08 pm

Open source = hacks.

Sun Nov 16, 2003 6:20 pm

i find the game pretty realistic
playin the lakers.. fisher would lauch 3s once in a while
and when i leave them open they will hit 3's on me
long mid range jumpers.. i dun c them much.. but again.. i reali never leave them that open..
they post a lot.. but they seem to miss a lot too

also tell ppl wut level you're playing at .. i play at all-star with my adjusted sliders.. baron davis been hittin 18 footers on me quite a few times .. i dont' see why he shoots from there cuz its usually contested.. but he makes them..

the jumpshots seem fine to me.. but maybe i'm not payin exactly too much attention to it.. but i'm sure they shoot 3's.. but just not much long range jumpshots..

Mon Nov 17, 2003 7:25 pm

I'm experiencing the same thing - real annoying. Just played a game against Seattle - they took 1 mid-range jumper and 1 3ptr. Everything else was driving layups and low post shots.

I hope someone eventually finds a setting that works...

Wed Nov 19, 2003 5:59 am

I think it 's real. Turn the physical defense assist up to 80 and play good d. They will take a lot of jumpers then, cuz it's hard to find space to pro hop. You have to consider though... If the real life Dirk had a clear path to the basket or an open jump shot, what would he take? Probably the easy lay up.

midle range jump shots

Wed Nov 19, 2003 6:09 am

If you watch any nba game you'll see that th more usuable shot is the 4,5
,6 meters jump shots and unfortunately it happens in the game.
Happens the same in pc version?
Modifying cpu ratings options like midle range shot, long range shot and near range shot is posible repair it?

Wed Nov 19, 2003 7:18 am

the cpu jacks up tons of jumpers on me and mostly its the 2 guard and the 3 that drives which is pretty realistic. My only gripe is that I play player locked and my cpu opponent seems to shoot and drive pretty regularly yet my cpu controlled teammates never take a shot. even when open they don't take it. normally I have to pass it to them and make them shoot but then I end up with all of the assists whereas my point guard doesn't because no one shoots on their own. are there any sliders for this problem??
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