List of Included Sliders

[EGarrett]

This list was posted on GameFAQs.com and on the Operation Sports board. These are the sliders that will be included in Live 2004.

Global Sliders:
Game Speed
Free Throw Difficulty
Boundary Force Field
Injury Frequency
Fatigue Effect
Charge/Block Foul Frequency
Shooting Foul Frequency
Reach-in Foul Frequency
In-air Collision Foul Frequency
User Sliders:
User Steal Ability
User Interception Ability
User Shot Block Ability
User Dunk/Lay-up Block Ability
User Freestyle Effectiveness
User Dunk vs. Lay-up Frequency
User Substitution Frequency
User On-ball Defense Assist
User Offensive Rebounding
User Defensive Rebounding
User Fakeout Discipline
User Short Range Shooting
User Medium Range Shooting
User Long Range Shooting
User Dunk Percentage
User Lay-up Percentage
User Adjusted Shot Percentage
User On-ball Defense
User Poor Release Shot Percent
User Double-team Effectiveness
CPU Sliders:
CPU Steal Ability
CPU Interception Ability
CPU Shot Block Ability
CPU Dunk/Lay-up Block Ability
CPU Freestyle Effectiveness
CPU Dunk Frequency
CPU Substitution Frequency
CPU Offensive Rebounding
CPU Defensive Rebounding
CPU Fakeout Discipline
CPU Short Range Shooting
CPU Medium Range Shooting
CPU Long Range Shooting
CPU Dunk Percentage
CPU Lay-up Percentage
CPU Adjusted Shot Percentage
CPU Adjusted Shot Frequency
CPU On-ball Physical Defense
CPU Poor Release Shot Percent
CPU Double-team Effectiveness
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They seem pretty thorough. CPU Long Range Shooting, Double-Team Effectiveness and Shot Block ability are going to see a lot of sliding if the gameplay is like last year.

My only concern is that there's no slider to cut down on the CPU Player's "sticky field." If you played on Superstar mode and tried to run or dribble past a computer you've experienced the way they 'hold' you...and even slide you behind them if you're going for a loose ball. I'd love to be able to turn that crap off.

[KABI]

What I am going to do is...

Turn down USER reach in fouls...
Turn down CPU long range shots...
Turn down CPU mid range shots...

I can't do well when I play by myself, with two people I like never lose but I just get frustrated when I am trying to play a game where they shoot 80 percent and I shoot 40 because I am uinable to run because my CPU teammates are too stupid.

[cyanide]

EGarrett's right, the list is very thorough. I really like the CPU Fakeout Discipline slider. I'm gonna use the sliders to fix everything that was unrealistic in the previous Live series. Like more defensive rebounding compared to offensive (they did fix that in 2003), less blocks, and not too many steals. Also, I hate how I'm playing in difficult mode and the free throw shooting becomes impossible, I'm glad I'm able to change that now.

The new user slider controls also limits the user from being too powerful, which is a good thing to keep the realism. I'll probably limit my freestyle effectiveness.

[BIG GREEN]

whoa...im impressed with the amount of sliders. It might be a tough time finding the right gameplay for your tastes but im glad to have the ability to even find it.

[TonyFromPerth]

Sliders seem wicked...im gonna reduce CPU stealing and intercepts.
I'll also reduce my blocking ability, last year i got so sick of getting like 7 blocks a game with my PG!! and i didnt even try that hard to do it either.

[fvdmc]

That is one heck of a list.

[Bredrin]

My only concern is that there's no slider to cut down on the CPU Player's "sticky field." If you played on Superstar mode and tried to run or dribble past a computer you've experienced the way they 'hold' you...and even slide you behind them if you're going for a loose ball. I'd love to be able to turn that crap off.

CPU On-ball Physical Defense may be the slider you would want to adjust

[EGarrett]

CPU On-ball Physical Defense may be the slider you would want to adjust

You know, you're probably right. For some reason when I was looking over the list I guess I was checking for another 'force field' slider or something like that in the list and my eyes scanned right over that without even making the connection. Thanks...CPU On-ball Physical defense...down down down...

I really like the CPU Fakeout Discipline slider.

I like the possibilities with that one too...I wonder how that slider interacts with User Freestyle Effectiveness? I bet Fakeout Discipline controls how often the computer does that 'broken ankle' animation when you give it a fake and free-style effectiveness controls how much distance is travelled by the move or something.

I can't do well when I play by myself, with two people I like never lose but I just get frustrated when I am trying to play a game where they shoot 80 percent and I shoot 40 because I am uinable to run because my CPU teammates are too stupid.

I know a lot of people think sliders make game developers more lazy...but I'm really glad that EA put them in for this exact reason. We all play the game differently and this way we can adjust it so that it provides the right amount of realism or challenge for us given the way we play.

There are so many cool things you can do with sliders. After I get used to the game and start winning all the time I can turn all the user sliders down and all the cpu sliders up and see just how badly it beats me. You can even make 'alternate format' games where you, for instance, turn long range shooting all the way up and inside scoring, dunk and layup percentage and medium range scoring all the way down and make teams have a pure outside shootout. It'll be fun coming up with things and sharing them on the boards.

Geez...only two more days to wait...must...be...patient...

[alexboom]

damn, there are so many sliders that it will be even longer to adjust sliders than tweaking rosters

[Jase23]

Wow that slider list is fantastic. Thanks very much for posting it. This game is gonna have enough now to keep us coming back if we are beating it easily, or getting whooped! Nice work EA.

[CHHAMP]

THIS IS WHAT WILL MAKE NBA LIVE 2004 THE GREATEST GAME EVER! WE WILL NEVER GET BORED OF THIS GAME. JUST KEEP ADJUSTING THINGS AND YOU CAN PLAY IT FOR YEARS AND YEARS. I LOVE THIS GAME!

[Eugene]

You know what'd be nice? If some of the values for the sliders were randomized.

That is, we're going to set the game speed to like 50 or 40 percent, and we know what we're getting--a slower paced game where it's not always run and gun, which is what most people want--but we know that realistically, some games vary from fast paced to slow pace in real life.

Also, we know that in the NBA the number of fouls called vary from game to game.

It'd be cool if we could set an upper and lower limit for the sliders, and let the computer randomize within those limits. Then, we'd get realistic gameplay, but not every game will be quite the same pace.

But I like the sliders, and once I play the game, I probably won't even worry about randomizing. Worse comes to worst, I can always manually set the sliders.

All the best,

Eugene

[nublu01]

it would be even better if they had some default templates for different types of gameplay.

if i select "slower gameplay", then the slides would adjust accordingly to reflect that type of gameplay. say... gamespeed and freestyle effect sliders would go down, while fatigue effect slider would go up
if i select "faster gameplay", then those slider settings would have reverse effect.
if i select "physical gameplay", then the corresponding sliders would change accordingly.

just a thought.

[the_yellow_dart]

It'd be cool if we could set an upper and lower limit for the sliders, and let the computer randomize within those limits. Then, we'd get realistic gameplay, but not every game will be quite the same pace.

Thats a kickass idea, and mayyybe even possible for the PC version... i mean its just gotta be some numbers in a database file somewhere, one would think. Although hopefully just playing different teams will dictate a difference in tempo and such, I think varying some of the sliders a little between games would keep me on my toes and kind of simulate a difference in officiating.

[CHHAMP]

You know what'd be nice? If some of the values for the sliders were randomized.

That is, we're going to set the game speed to like 50 or 40 percent, and we know what we're getting--a slower paced game where it's not always run and gun, which is what most people want--but we know that realistically, some games vary from fast paced to slow pace in real life.

Also, we know that in the NBA the number of fouls called vary from game to game.

It'd be cool if we could set an upper and lower limit for the sliders, and let the computer randomize within those limits. Then, we'd get realistic gameplay, but not every game will be quite the same pace.

But I like the sliders, and once I play the game, I probably won't even worry about randomizing. Worse comes to worst, I can always manually set the sliders.

All the best,

Eugene

Thats a KILLER idea! How awesome that would be to have a surprise every game you play and have to work out how to win. Awesome.

I assume though, that you can change the sliders whenever you want. So maybe randomly (kind of) move the sliders all over the place before each game (not too extreme though).