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ingame injuries

Postby rudogg33 on Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:13 am

I hope there are actually ingame injuries because i dont simulate, and just adds more 2 franchise mode for those who dont simulate. Andrew im hoping that maybe u can confirm this since u are able 2 get info on lesser detailed things like draft picks. Nothin would be more frustrating than having mcgrady out for 1 month at the time, but adds so much more 2 the game. we all hate injuries at the time they occur but makes the game so much better. 1
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Postby petey101502 on Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:35 am

there is ive played it and someone got injured that i was playin with
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Postby . on Sun Aug 31, 2003 4:45 am

petey101502 wrote:there is ive played it and someone got injured that i was playin with

foreal? damn....that makes franchisemode so much more realistic...after the player whas injured, what happend? did he walked to the bench like someone raped him in the arse ( U know that walk :P ), or did a subsitution screen apear?
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Postby PiksS on Sun Aug 31, 2003 6:53 am

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petey101502 wrote:there is ive played it and someone got injured that i was playin with

foreal? damn....that makes franchisemode so much more realistic...after the player whas injured, what happend? did he walked to the bench like someone raped him in the arse ( U know that walk :P ), or did a subsitution screen apear?


nope he didn`t walk to bench there was just the player change!!! :(
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Postby Andrew on Sun Aug 31, 2003 2:14 pm

petey101502 wrote:there is ive played it and someone got injured that i was playin with


How did the injury occur? One of the previews mentioned that attempting dunks in traffic would see players risking injury.

rudogg33: I'm waiting to find out whether I could get some more info on the game if I was to conduct an interview or quick Q&A. I'll keep everyone informed.
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Postby DaManFromGapo on Mon Sep 01, 2003 5:20 pm

Dead Eye wrote:
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petey101502 wrote:there is ive played it and someone got injured that i was playin with

foreal? damn....that makes franchisemode so much more realistic...after the player whas injured, what happend? did he walked to the bench like someone raped him in the arse ( U know that walk :P ), or did a subsitution screen apear?


nope he didn`t walk to bench there was just the player change!!! :(


I thought that there would a be cutscene or something showing the injured player being helped to the bench. Oh well, it's ok if there aren't any.

I wonder what is the frequency in which the injuries occur. Was it totally random? Or, as andrew has mentioned, due to attempting dunks in traffic, or jumping high for a rebound and landing on an opponents foot? I hope that this has been implemented in a nice way. How? i don't know. Maybe they have come up with a way in which we would all agree upon.

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Postby Metsis on Mon Sep 01, 2003 6:37 pm

Ingame injuries add to that much needed realism... And it is nice, but this thread brought up another good idea for maybe the next edition of live.

This idea is about subbing... They could add a key with which the player could demand a substitution (like in real bball) and then when the first opportunity to sub would come, well it could show a pop-up screen with the players on court and their condition bar and the players on the bench and their condition, so that you'd never really have to leave the game. It would also make the manual substitutions option a much more viable option.

Like, you are playing the game and you notice that your small forward is getting tired, well then you could just press the sub button (like maybe the back space so that you don't press it accidentially). And you would be in line with the sub. And then if the ball went out of bounds or some one got fouled, well the the sub popup would jump up to the screen where you could just do the subs and then press ok (or something) to resume the game.

Same could go for timeouts. Like you press a button and then when you get the ball the timeout would be called automatically. And the if you had pressed the substitution button, well you could sub as well.

These would really improve the gameplay and make the manual subs a feasible option. Now it is like, you have to wait to get the ball out of bounds or take timeout or a foul and then you have to press escape or pause button, then select substitutions and then move the right players to the right spots and then go back to the game and even that takes pressing to UI buttons. Even adding a continue to the game button to the substitutions screen would be nice.

I like these ideas... Could you andrew maybe put these already on the upcoming wishlist??? Cause these probably won't be in Live 2004. And I think many would agree.
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Postby Andrew on Mon Sep 01, 2003 7:21 pm

I've made a note of it, it will be on the Wishlist when we start compiling it later this year.

I like the idea of being able to setup automatic substitutions, so that at the next dead ball the designated substitutions will take place. I also like the idea of a timeout being called as soon as you gain possession. Even with quick reflexes you lose a little time calling timeout. Those could be valuable seconds that are needed to execute a final play.
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Postby TRUball on Tue Sep 02, 2003 2:10 am

Andrew wrote:I've made a note of it, it will be on the Wishlist when we start compiling it later this year.


Lol already starting the wishlist for NBA Live 2005 are we? :wink:

I like the idea of being able to setup automatic substitutions, so that at the next dead ball the designated substitutions will take place. I also like the idea of a timeout being called as soon as you gain possession. Even with quick reflexes you lose a little time calling timeout. Those could be valuable seconds that are needed to execute a final play.


I agree, Infact, I realy agree, I really like this idea, cause I usually just do autosubs cause I can't sub by myself case I get to into the game I forget to, but with that, it would be ALOT easier. Great Idea Metsis (Y)
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Postby ailive2005 on Tue Sep 02, 2003 3:48 am

I really hope the in-game injuries are in the game cause "if it's in the game it's in the game" right? I hope the have all the animations for the correct injury so if a player appears to have a sprained right hand, the animation will be him holding his right hand in pain. This is a simple thing to do but yet no basketball game can say thats they have it down packed, but with EA's ten-man mo-cap it should allow all sorts of situational to be reproduced in the game. :wink:
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Postby Se7en>>Dimension on Tue Sep 02, 2003 4:08 am

I don't see why they wouldn't have a cutscene. Madden has it and don't tell me about the different people who make the game, I know already.
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Postby Colin on Tue Sep 02, 2003 6:22 am

I'm quite sure if this is what you meant Andrew, but i want to be able to, at any time, go to the subs screen make my players substitutions. Go back to the game and se them waiting by the scorers table to go in at the next whistle.
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Postby Bredrin on Tue Sep 02, 2003 9:29 am

so live 2004 will have ingame injuries? :?
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Postby sixerfan03 on Tue Sep 02, 2003 10:10 am

I hope they have more in-game injuries.

I only had one injury in the game with Live 2003. It was an exhibition game, and I called for a double team, but it selected intentional foul, instead. My player pushed Chris Webber over, and he was out for the quarter. (about a minute left)
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Postby Andrew on Tue Sep 02, 2003 1:18 pm

kobes_4real wrote:
Andrew wrote:I've made a note of it, it will be on the Wishlist when we start compiling it later this year.


Lol already starting the wishlist for NBA Live 2005 are we? :wink:


Not exactly, but I thought I'd make a note of it early.

I'm quite sure if this is what you meant Andrew, but i want to be able to, at any time, go to the subs screen make my players substitutions. Go back to the game and se them waiting by the scorers table to go in at the next whistle.


That's pretty much the idea, with the extra detail of seeing the players waiting by the scorers table.
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Postby Metsis on Tue Sep 02, 2003 3:35 pm

Seeing players wait at the stats tables would be cool, but still what I originally meant was that you could push a button that would at the next opportune time (when you could sub) bring up a pop-up screen and you could do the sub there and then and you wouldn't have to go to the pause mode and then substitutions etc. But you'd be able to do them right there and then. A system to control auto subbing would also be nice.

Same goes for the timeout...

There could be small icons on the screen to facilitate these features too. So that when you pressed the timeout button, a small icon would appear so that you could see that you've asked a timeout. Same goes with the subbing. The timeout icon could be hands doing the timeout sign and subbing could be the subbing sign made by hands too... The icons could be in one of the corners of the screen so they wouldn't disrupt the game play too much, but you'd see that the subbing will take place at the next opportune moment.

This feature too would enable EA to make more of those wonderful cut scenes they seem to like so much. That is, if taking a timeout doesn't actually take the player away from the game play, well they could easily add a cutscene of the players huddled around the coach to sign a timeout. Something they've never been able to do before...
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Postby ThisizaJackMove on Tue Sep 02, 2003 3:48 pm

Metsis wrote:Same could go for timeouts. Like you press a button and then when you get the ball the timeout would be called automatically. And the if you had pressed the substitution button, well you could sub as well.


This is a great idea and its already been put in EA's football games. If you got the ball Select would be the button(assuming you have a controller.) This wouldn't be too hard to implement.

Then maybe everyone runs to a huddle and then a the screen of people playing and people on the bench could just pop-up as they are in the huddle. This would surely be more realistic and quicker then completely pausing the game.
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Postby Ruff Ryder on Wed Sep 03, 2003 11:29 am

Metsis wrote:Same could go for timeouts. Like you press a button and then when you get the ball the timeout would be called automatically. And the if you had pressed the substitution button, well you could sub as well.


Thats how it is on consoles(Timeouts)
The select button is timeout.

And of course EA spent extra time on fixing injuries. VC is on the cover.
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Postby Metsis on Wed Sep 03, 2003 3:00 pm

ruffryder8 wrote:Thats how it is on consoles(Timeouts)
The select button is timeout.

And of course EA spent extra time on fixing injuries. VC is on the cover.


Is it like what I mentioned? Or is it just that when you get the ball, well you can then press the select button to take a timeout?

Cause in real basket ball, you ask for a timeout from a ref and they will give it to you at the next opportune moment. Same goes for subbing.

And a button with which you can make subs immediatly would be bad... It would really disrupt the gameplay. And think about playing against another player, well you could foil his attack by pressing the substitution button a couple of times at some critical moments.

My way is better...
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