Trading of draft picks confirmed

[TRUball]

Dynasty Mode is no doubt going to have a whole lot of roster management tasks, there just won't be any non-basketball management tasks, such as managing ticket prices, overseeing merchandise sales, etc. I think most people (myself included) would rather see improvements to the basketball side of multi-season play before the addition of a business/management side of things.

I agree with you andrew. Like i would rather see the best gameplay ever, and it is so realistic, instead of being able to manage everything a real GM/Owner does. But i do like some of teh managament things. Like i like selecting contracts, oh ya that reminds, do we know if we can chose the amount of money aside from the years? do we know that yet? well anyway, i like the draft i like lots of it but i don't like the idea of having to buy healthy food, or better planes or anything like that.

[rudogg33]

well at first i thought the ticket prices, merchandise, food, etc was a bad idea but after playing madden, this make franchise the most complete of any sports game.

madden franchise

you start off at training, you do drills where you can improve players certain abilities, catching ball etc.......nice little feature.

You can also sign free agents (you choose years, money signing bonus) there agent gives you what there looking for then you can decide if its 2 high, and you can give him a similar offer)

you can also sign extensions 2 you players

Then you head 2 preseason, your coach has strategies, the type of defense, and he even gives comments after games.

then you play preseason games and what features it has, if games are being played on the same day, theres a ticker during the game that updates scores. after you head back 2 the schedule you can even see each games box scores with quarter breakdowns as well as indavidual stats.

after preseason you do the owner stuff which is great because it wasnt overdone, you set prices etc. Then you can advertise your team, and see what your advisors say. Now this money feature is great, because after the season, money goes for salaries, and depending on your season and fan support, youll have money left. With this you can hire coaches for special teams, defense, or get a better training facilities, as well as new medical staff(helps players heal quicker) add stuff 2 stadium, etc. Then you have money left which can be used in the long run just in case you have bad seasons or your in luxury tax, or the ultimate gold new stadium, but none of this is possible if you dont win becuase the main focus is 2 win champion ships.

This is the greatest franchise mode, trade draft picks, coaching comes into affect real money, contracts, camps, great scouting and even commentary during the draft. And trading, its not easy getting draft picks, has 2 be a good deal, and its very realistic, becuz the trading block, becuz teams dont just look for franchise players but by position and what they give up, very realistic.

I kno this is a live thread, but the above is what i want 2 see in live. Football is great but hoops is my thing.
when will live start using real life coaching instead of 4 plays. If im the lakers i should be running the triangle, if im the blazers i should be running flex. when are we going 2 get an offseason where 1 cpu signs all good players for min. When are we gonna have a draft with second round steals, better scouting.

Thats why i get disapointed with live becuase they should be doing what the madden producers do deliver the best simulation game in football, all i want is live 2 put in the same effort and no gimmicks. For example the jerseys and sneakers and headbands, yeah great, but this extra is useless if the more import things in a franchise arnt fixed.

IM SORRY FOR THE LONG POST, jus speaking my mind.

[goldnugget15]

why exactly would you want to purchase jerseys for players already on a team and headbands?

[Andrew]

You would be unlocking additional retro jerseys, headbands and so forth. Not all the retros will be available out of the box, some of them will have to be purchased from the NBA Store.

[Metsis]

I think you can just add a draft pick onto the trade bar in the trade screen. This is implemented in NHL series in this way and I believe that it will be implemented similarly in Live. In NHL the teams really hold onto their first round picks with a sickly feeling. You have to trade like an established player for a first round pick. And the AI just makes stupid and "no brainer" trade proposals in NHL... They really need to work on the trading AI.

Think of how many AI trades would be doable if they would throw in a draft pick. I really hope they fix the draftees too, so that you can actually get some sort of a basic baller in the second round. Like overall 70-75 with some strengths and weaknesses. The rookies just need to be better and the potential doesn't have to be attached to the projected position. You could basically take a second round project with a tremendous upside and just work on it. This is what is lacking in the game... I'll say it again (as I've said it so many times before) there are no really bad players in the NBA draft... They all are the top of the crop and there really shouldn't be any players with overalls below 65. You can't fit a player in a team with a lower then 70 overall and most draftees in Live 2003 have overalls under 70. Most of the players should never reach the 90 overalls, but there are solid players that can help a team and this should be true in Live too.

An example to my rant... Think of Ben Wallace. He is the defensive player to have and anyone and everyone would take him if offered. Then add some truths to this... He went undrafted, just how bad are those players in Live games -> overalls in the 50's range and no chance of ever getting better. A Wizards staff member even said to Big Ben that he'd never be an NBA player. And how wrong was he???

[EGarrett]

I really hope they fix the draftees too, so that you can actually get some sort of a basic baller in the second round. Like overall 70-75 with some strengths and weaknesses. The rookies just need to be better and the potential doesn't have to be attached to the projected position. You could basically take a second round project with a tremendous upside and just work on it. This is what is lacking in the game... I'll say it again (as I've said it so many times before) there are no really bad players in the NBA draft... They all are the top of the crop and there really shouldn't be any players with overalls below 65. You can't fit a player in a team with a lower then 70 overall and most draftees in Live 2003 have overalls under 70. Most of the players should never reach the 90 overalls, but there are solid players that can help a team and this should be true in Live too

Some second-round picks should be in the low 70's and turn into players...but remember that most second round picks aren't good enough to make a team...so the 60 ratings are appropriate overall...

[Andrew]

An example to my rant... Think of Ben Wallace. He is the defensive player to have and anyone and everyone would take him if offered. Then add some truths to this... He went undrafted, just how bad are those players in Live games -> overalls in the 50's range and no chance of ever getting better. A Wizards staff member even said to Big Ben that he'd never be an NBA player. And how wrong was he???

Perhaps there could be some decent rookies generated who go undrafted not unlike Ben Wallace and more recently J.R. Bremer.

Some second-round picks should be in the low 70's and turn into players...but remember that most second round picks aren't good enough to make a team...so the 60 ratings are appropriate overall...

Early second round picks should have a chance at becoming reliable backups at the very least. Perhaps if CPU teams draft out of need rather than ratings, better players will slip lower in the draft leading to steals. That would be a better option than giving late second round draft picks higher ratings.

[DaManFromGapo]

i forgot to ask...is it possible to trade future first round picks, say for 2005 and 2007? I think that the only picks allowed to be traded are for the upcoming NBA draft and not for the next drafts. A longshot, no doubt that this has been implemented in 2004. Maybe next year they would be able to add this feature, maybe even conditional pick/protected picks.

cheers!

[TRUball]

i forgot to ask...is it possible to trade future first round picks, say for 2005 and 2007? I think that the only picks allowed to be traded are for the upcoming NBA draft and not for the next drafts. A longshot, no doubt that this has been implemented in 2004. Maybe next year they would be able to add this feature, maybe even conditional pick/protected picks.

cheers!

ok what is wit cheers?

that is a good question, well andrew, Can you trade future Draft picks, or just the upcoming draft picks?

[Metsis]

ok what is wit cheers?

that is a good question, well andrew, Can you trade future Draft picks, or just the upcoming draft picks?

I think you can only trade the upcoming draft picks, so they are more of a trade sweetener then something to get you a new player. I haven't seen the multiseason team bagging anywhere yet... The NHL series doesn't have it and it's had draft pick trading in atleast the last two releases. It will be hard to implement... So the AI would understand it, well it would be hard.

But basically the late first round choices are bad in Live 2003 and they barely have ratings of 70... And that's too low. The problem is again as with the salaries that they went and increased the overalls, but are basically using the same rookie generator (with a few tweaks). I know that most second round picks don't amount to much, but they should be able to become those reliable back ups if trained hard and given time. Even for only a few years... And tell me when you have seen a rookie guard that you could put down for Speed 65 and Quikness 70. Or a forward with Speed 80 Quiness 55. These are some of the guys that come up from the draft... And you've all seen them. All the players that come in the league are in a pretty good shape and can run the floor unless they are those bulky centers which should have Speed 70 and Quickness 70. That just bugs me off. The scores are just unrealistic. And usually the players are atleast some good in some department. So a if a guy is not a good shooter, well then he probably is a better rebounder or a defender cause he's gotta have game to be in the draft in the first place. Maybe what Andrew said does have a point, that if the AI would choose out of need rather then rating, well it would help a little, but still I say that the rookies don't add up. Only the top 10 are good picks. With others, well you can just deal them up in 2004.

[DaManFromGapo]

i forgot to ask...is it possible to trade future first round picks, say for 2005 and 2007? I think that the only picks allowed to be traded are for the upcoming NBA draft and not for the next drafts. A longshot, no doubt that this has been implemented in 2004. Maybe next year they would be able to add this feature, maybe even conditional pick/protected picks.

cheers!

ok what is wit cheers?

that is a good question, well andrew, Can you trade future Draft picks, or just the upcoming draft picks?

maybe i should use an emoticon showing 2 mugs i probably have had too much booze every friday night.

cheers!

[Andrew]

Next opportunity I get I'll see if I can get some more info regarding draft picks. I can't promise anything though, I'm only told what I'm allowed to know.

[Fresh8]

Hey- In live 2003 know Jumaine Jones who is rated high but can't do anything in the games?? Well...if I get a player like him...I'm gonna trade him to Bulls for a first round pick!

[Metsis]

That is probably doable... Jumaine Jones is good enough in my mind and the bulls have Pippen to start for them at SF. I'd probably make the deal if I was the bulls. Pippen won't be playing for much longer now maybe one or two years.

But you'd have to fling some players in some direction though, cause the draft pick don't cover the salary of a player such as Jones. The draft picks should count for some sort of a cash thing, but haven't seen the final product yet so it's hard to tell if you could do that. Remember always that salaries are what make the trades. Some even reasonable trades are impossible cause the salaries don't match up. This is why teams that are under the cap are holding all the cards in this one.

[Se7en>>Dimension]

Hey- In live 2003 know Jumaine Jones who is rated high but can't do anything in the games?? Well...if I get a player like him...I'm gonna trade him to Bulls for a first round pick!

Want a cookie?

[Andrew]

Hey- In live 2003 know Jumaine Jones who is rated high but can't do anything in the games?? Well...if I get a player like him...I'm gonna trade him to Bulls for a first round pick!

Want a cookie?

An unnecessary remark. Please, if you are only going to post to insult other members, don't bother posting at all.

[Se7en>>Dimension]

Hey- In live 2003 know Jumaine Jones who is rated high but can't do anything in the games?? Well...if I get a player like him...I'm gonna trade him to Bulls for a first round pick!

Want a cookie?

An unnecessary remark. Please, if you are only going to post to insult other members, don't bother posting at all.

I'll post when I feel like it. Since you like to get on my case so much why don't you pay attention to other broken rules like http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~nbalive/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8013?

[bishibashiboy]

Hey- In live 2003 know Jumaine Jones who is rated high but can't do anything in the games?? Well...if I get a player like him...I'm gonna trade him to Bulls for a first round pick!

Want a cookie?

An unnecessary remark. Please, if you are only going to post to insult other members, don't bother posting at all.

I'll post when I feel like it. Since you like to get on my case so much why don't you pay attention to other broken rules like http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~nbalive/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8013?

Whoa damn..you go girl!

[Se7en>>Dimension]

Mmmmmk....I guess I'll stop 'insulting' people even though I'm not exactly insulting them..

[Andrew]

Hey- In live 2003 know Jumaine Jones who is rated high but can't do anything in the games?? Well...if I get a player like him...I'm gonna trade him to Bulls for a first round pick!

Want a cookie?

An unnecessary remark. Please, if you are only going to post to insult other members, don't bother posting at all.

I'll post when I feel like it. Since you like to get on my case so much why don't you pay attention to other broken rules like http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~nbalive/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8013?

No, you will not post when you feel like if it violates the rules:

Make a positive contribution. Don't post pointlessly. In particular, do not:

• Attack other members and/or start a flame war
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I suggest you change your attitude immediately if you want to continue posting. It's not "getting on your case". Recently the only times you have posted have been to insult other forum members, and that will not be tolerated. You're showing a really rotten attitude right now, one that the forum can do without. Behave yourself.

[Se7en>>Dimension]

Hey- In live 2003 know Jumaine Jones who is rated high but can't do anything in the games?? Well...if I get a player like him...I'm gonna trade him to Bulls for a first round pick!

Want a cookie?

An unnecessary remark. Please, if you are only going to post to insult other members, don't bother posting at all.

I'll post when I feel like it. Since you like to get on my case so much why don't you pay attention to other broken rules like http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~nbalive/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8013?

No, you will not post when you feel like if it violates the rules:

Make a positive contribution. Don't post pointlessly. In particular, do not:

• Attack other members and/or start a flame war
• Post only to make fun of other members' grammar or spelling
• Post only to request action from a moderator. If a topic requires locking, moving or deletion, it will be taken care of ASAP.
• Throw a discussion off-topic
• Comment on moderating or forum rules. Any issues with moderating or the forum rules should be taken up privately with the moderators and admins.

I suggest you change your attitude immediately if you want to continue posting. It's not "getting on your case". Recently the only times you have posted have been to insult other forum members, and that will not be tolerated. You're showing a really rotten attitude right now, one that the forum can do without. Behave yourself.

Sorry for all the trouble. My attitude shall change.

[Andrew]

Thanks for your co-operation. Much appreciated.