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Team Rankings

Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:50 am

Will team rankings ever be realistic. Some playoff teams are ranked in the 20's(spurs,suns). Then some teams like the t'wolves who never get out of the first round are higher than others.

Sun Jul 20, 2003 3:52 am

This is something that can be easily fixed by users. :)

Sun Jul 20, 2003 4:35 am

yea i know but we buy to play, not to try and fix what EA messed up.

Also it can easily be fixed by EA.

Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:59 pm

As someone who's worked with rosters for a long time, I know that it's difficult to find a good balance between ranking the teams correctly and giving players realistic ratings. It's very easy to make players underrated and overrated when you're trying to get the team rankings to be realistic. Sometimes it's possible to overcome this problem using the "rating adjust" attribute in teams.dbf.

Sun Jul 20, 2003 1:02 pm

I wish they wouldnt rank by the player ratings of whos on the teams but by where they finished or the players stats.

Sun Jul 20, 2003 1:07 pm

That's the whole idea of the "ratings adjust" attribute, to compensate for lower rated players on good teams. But it's not always an ideal solution.

Sun Jul 20, 2003 1:49 pm

Also, no matter what the rankings are, there will always be someone who disagrees with them.

Sun Jul 20, 2003 1:59 pm

Andrew wrote:That's the whole idea of the "ratings adjust" attribute, to compensate for lower rated players on good teams. But it's not always an ideal solution.


The what attribute? Please explain...

Sun Jul 20, 2003 3:14 pm

There's an attribute in teams.dbf called RTGADJUST (rating adjust). It's used in the calculation of team rankings using the ratings of players on the roster.

Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:04 am

I want to see more of the team rating than jus overall(offense, defense, reb, etc.)

Mon Jul 21, 2003 9:04 am

I agree. Thats exactly what i had in mind

Mon Jul 21, 2003 12:52 pm

havasufalls wrote:I want to see more of the team rating than jus overall(offense, defense, reb, etc.)


Since you brought it up, I'd like to see the old style of team select screen where you can order teams by overall ranking, offense, defense, rebounding etc.

Mon Jul 21, 2003 1:50 pm

Andrew wrote:
havasufalls wrote:I want to see more of the team rating than jus overall(offense, defense, reb, etc.)


Since you brought it up, I'd like to see the old style of team select screen where you can order teams by overall ranking, offense, defense, rebounding etc.

Exactly what I thought was missing from 2003 also! The old system allowed for much quicker or more purposeful team selections.

Mon Jul 21, 2003 4:58 pm

The differentiated team ratings should make a come back.

It just helps to manage a team... The fact that you can see your ups and downs compared to the other teams is a definate plus. And you can easily see what needs to be fixed. Like if you are overall 10th and your defense is ranked 22nd, well bringing in some more defensive minded players should help you break the leagues top 10. This would really be helpful.

I really liked it when the teams had these stats included... You kind of know what to expect.

Tue Jul 22, 2003 5:48 am

Yea it would be nice to c wat ur team has to improve in and if ur picking a team its good to know if ur defense is bad ur gonna have to work extra hard on defense and so forth
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