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Trading draft picks for draft picks

Postby bomba90 on Tue Jan 27, 2004 8:04 am

Did you guys ever succeeded in trading 2 picks for 1 better pick?
Of course without players involved.
I only succeeded in trading QRich+2ND round pick for a lottery pick.
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Postby Andrew on Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:56 am

I haven't had any luck exchanging picks for picks in my current Dynasty. I'm still trying to pry a couple of lottery picks away in exchange for a couple of my seldom used reserves.
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Postby Mikelaker on Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:45 pm

Folks,

I have not been successful doing this... anyone having experience on that?
BTW, I am just in my second season only, and so far I can draft only some late first round rookies. Their performance on court is just fair.
How is your rookie performing? I mean those 'computer generated rookies' you get at beginning of every season. Will some higher ranked rookie improve entering their 2nd season (like Lebron/Yao)?

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Postby TheBigEasy on Wed Jan 28, 2004 5:39 am

Andrew wrote:I haven't had any luck exchanging picks for picks in my current Dynasty. I'm still trying to pry a couple of lottery picks away in exchange for a couple of my seldom used reserves.


You had no luck I guess ... I am trying the same. I am just 10 to 12 games away from the trading deadline and I am trying to move some of the expiring contracts among my reserves (Tractor Traylor for example). But none of the lower teams are willing to trade their firstrounders. "The team is not interested in trades involving draft picks at this time. Try again later." ... So I sim to the trading deadline, but still no luck. Where is the point in having the possibility to trade for picks and the AI is refusing it permanently ...

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Postby Ruff Ryder on Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:55 am

I got one to go down today. I traded Ansu Sesay to Utah for a 2nd rd. Pick. Just incase you wanted to know, it whas I think the 2nd week of January.
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Postby Andrew on Wed Jan 28, 2004 7:50 pm

TheBigEasy wrote:
Andrew wrote:I haven't had any luck exchanging picks for picks in my current Dynasty. I'm still trying to pry a couple of lottery picks away in exchange for a couple of my seldom used reserves.


You had no luck I guess ... I am trying the same. I am just 10 to 12 games away from the trading deadline and I am trying to move some of the expiring contracts among my reserves (Tractor Traylor for example). But none of the lower teams are willing to trade their firstrounders. "The team is not interested in trades involving draft picks at this time. Try again later." ... So I sim to the trading deadline, but still no luck. Where is the point in having the possibility to trade for picks and the AI is refusing it permanently ...

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I haven't got a deal to go through yet, but as I get closer and closer to the deadline some teams are showing interest in giving up their lottery picks. They haven't been interested in what I've been offering though (Eddie Robinson, Lonny Baxter, Corie Blount and Jay Williams plus my 2004 picks in various packages).
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Postby TheBigEasy on Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:05 pm

I have got one deal through. I simmed the whole season and close to the trading deadline the next season. Cleveland agreed to take David Wesley for their first rounder. It turned out, that Cleveland got Pick 17 and I got Pick 18. But other than that all teams say "Not interested in trades involving draft picks at this time". Thats kinda ridiculous. I want to dump Stacey Augmon, George Lynch and Tractor Traylor and would like to have a lottery pick in return. But so far ... no luck.

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Postby Andrew on Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:53 pm

I've been trying to get Milwaukee's first round pick (should be top four) for Eddie Robinson or Jay Williams, but despite the interest the Bucks have in both of those players, they aren't willing to give up their pick. That is to say, they're willing to give up their pick (though they weren't earlier in the season), but not for the players I'm offering.

Similar deal with other teams. I did get a couple of deals to go through, but didn't like them so I didn't save the changes. This is where the old Cancel/Confirm Trade dialog box would be useful. I don't think I'll be able to do a deal before the deadline.
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Postby TheBigEasy on Wed Jan 28, 2004 9:55 pm

Yeah ... I have done quite some extensive shopping around of players over the last hour. The only deal which got through was M. Lampe and the 1st Pick from Dallas for David Wesley. Next time I tried it, i wasnt able to get the same deal through.

Is there any database column / value where the reluctance of trading picks is located? So that you can just change that value and teams are more willing to give up a pick? Or is this part of the AI and we are not able to change it?

I have also tried to trade Jamal Mashburn to Golden State for their 1st rounder and scrub ... They had lots of interest in him, but are not willing to give up their pick, which should be pretty high, given the low seed GS has in my dynasty.

When I am not able to get a pick, I guess I'll try to strike a "normal" deal. I still want to dump Traylor, Lynch, Augmon and maybe David Wesley. And I need quality backups at SF and SG, despite beeing 3 deep at every position. And I would like to clear a roster spot, so only teams who would be willing to give one for two would be possible trade partners. Well ... a GM's life isnt as easy as it sounds :D.

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Postby jwin on Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:48 am

i was able to get the warriors first and second round picks for iverson and big dog, which turned out to be the #1 ovr pick, and atlanta gave up it's first rounder to houston which ended up being the third pick, but some teams that really needed players weren't willing to part with their draft choices. it may be coincidence but it seems that teams headed for the lottery are more willing to trade draft picks.
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Postby TheBigEasy on Thu Jan 29, 2004 5:46 am

Not necessarily ... I have tried to pry away numerous picks from lottery bound teams, with no luck. I guess it has to do with what you are willing to give up. For a player like AI the other teams are more willing to give up a pick. I am trying to trade such glamorous names like Robert Traylor, George Lynch and Stacey Augmon ... :D

Btw ... i have now traded George Lynch and Bryce Drew to Portland in exchange for Ruben Patterson. But they werent willing to give up their first rounder too.

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Postby jwin on Thu Jan 29, 2004 8:14 am

i think it does have more to do with who or what you're willing to part with, there were two or three other teams willing to trade picks but they weren't interested in AI, and the ones that were interested in robinson didn't want anything else i packaged with him, even my first and second rounder. it just seems that through the first five yrs of my dynasty, the only teams that are open to trading are the ones with the worst records, whereas teams with the best records weren't even willing to trade their second round pick for a first round pick. i was trying to dump some decent players for salary cap reasons too, and then ended up just experimenting with the trades.
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Postby Andrew on Thu Jan 29, 2004 2:47 pm

Lottery bound teams are reluctant to give up their picks at first, but can sometimes be swayed by good deals as the trading deadline approaches. Since I'm not willing to give up one of my better reserves or a starter for a lottery pick, I'm not having much luck. The way things are going I'd settle for a top 15 pick, as I'll probably end up with a bottom 3 pick in each round.
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Postby Mark. on Fri Jan 30, 2004 3:07 pm

It is hard to trade, but a good tip, is too look for the teams that have orster space. About 50% of the time they are willing to trade thier pick for a player, but as soon as you ask for a player in return, the odds of it working get smaller. If a team has two roster spaces, then you are in luck, cos u are almost bound to get the pcik if you give up two picks, i've even got it to work with scrubs occasionaly.
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Postby Andrew on Sat Jan 31, 2004 2:37 pm

That's what I've been trying to do, mainly; trade players to lottery-bound teams with a free roster slot for their first round pick. They just haven't been interested in my offers, unfortunately. :(
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Postby And1_Aussie on Sat Sep 18, 2004 1:28 pm

Trade for picks @ the deadline,
ive traded up for 4 draft picks, you just gotta have luck, and know wat the teams want,
i usually release all my crappy players with ratings like 40 and so, and then sign free agents with the top ratings left, like 56 and so forth, then wham, they trade away..
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Postby Rens on Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:08 pm

Andrew wrote:Similar deal with other teams. I did get a couple of deals to go through, but didn't like them so I didn't save the changes. This is where the old Cancel/Confirm Trade dialog box would be useful. I don't think I'll be able to do a deal before the deadline.

You could just hit the arrow to the left instead of the one to the right and all trades are cancelled.
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Postby Micchy_boy on Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:19 pm

Rens wrote:You could just hit the arrow to the left instead of the one to the right and all trades are cancelled.


nope it wont cancel the trade, if your in dynasty mode.
yeah i want the Cancel/Confirm Trade dialog box. i hope they put it back.
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Postby HonorGlow on Fri Sep 24, 2004 2:35 am

match_66 wrote:It is hard to trade, but a good tip, is too look for the teams that have orster space. About 50% of the time they are willing to trade thier pick for a player, but as soon as you ask for a player in return, the odds of it working get smaller. If a team has two roster spaces, then you are in luck, cos u are almost bound to get the pcik if you give up two picks, i've even got it to work with scrubs occasionaly.


As I just finished Season 2011(82 games), I can agree with Match 66 that this indeed is essential for the other team to be willing to trade their pick. Like some, I've had about three seasons where I'd have 4 1st round picks going into the draft. Anyway, what I've noticed is to read the NBA news and wait for some team to simply release a player without intention to pickup the League minimum superstar, don't offer to trade yet but wait after one or two played games and then offer a packaged deal. Two 59-rating players for a 1st round pick and one of their scrubs is where I start from and then adjust from there.
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Postby dam_m_gud on Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:40 pm

The one time I could trade a player for two picks plus one player was the in the midst of my Cavs dynasty when I saw the very unrealistic event in which Kobe Bryant was released midway through the season. I signed him (of course I got LeBron so I didn't need him) and after a week, traded him to lottery bound Sacramento. I got Mike Bibby with both of their picks.

The point? You almost always has got to give up something to get what you want. I didn't need Kobe but if you are using Miami, would you give up Shaq or Dwayne for a couple or three lottery picks? Do the math my friends.
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