technical fouls anf flagrant fouls
Sun Mar 23, 2003 3:13 am
give techs and flagrants for the time when it suppose to be called
flagrant - hit on head on a hard intentional foul like tackling
technical - coaches/players complaining, entering the court before the timeout is called, etc..
flagrant - hit on head on a hard intentional foul like tackling
technical - coaches/players complaining, entering the court before the timeout is called, etc..
Sun Mar 23, 2003 3:25 am
flagrants are already called, but there should be more, and have flagrant rating so players like Ron-Ron and K-Mart would have it in the high 90's, whereas sofites like allan houston would be more like 50 or 60. Techs have been a long standing problem.
Sun Mar 23, 2003 11:17 am
I'd like to see flagrant fouls and injuries independent of each other. Not every flagrant foul ends in a player being injured - though I realise it's the easiest way to make injuries more commonplace.
Mon Mar 24, 2003 12:20 am
It would be nice to see those flagrant fouls without the injuries... But it is hard to implement. What I'd like to see again is the fact that there could be injuries in the game that would result in a flagrant foul. In Live 2003 I've never seen an ingame injury and thus never have seen a flagrant foul. Bring back the injuries.
And how could technicals be called... Have the referees make bad calls every now and then. That's how they come up in real games that a coach or player(s) see the play differently. Think of this situation... Rasheed Wallace goes up for a shot and some one "blocks him" on the hand and the ref don't call it, but let's the game go on. Now there could be some sort of an intensity factor and if high the player could go off at the coach, and thus result in a technical foul. Or when a ball goes out of bounds and the ref makes a bad call and atleast the crowd could react to it and/or players and coaches. This could be implemented by bringing back the referees to the sidelines and giving them stats aswell... Something to do with their attitudes and decisions.
And then give a button for complaining to the ref if a player would wish to do so... I sometimes get so frustrated in the game that I'd like to say a few things about that "offensive foul" every now and then... And this could have different results... Maybe ref keeping an eye out for similar situation better or a technical foul etc. It would bring a whole new strategic element to the game. And I'd love it, and I don't think it would be even too hard to implement.
And how could technicals be called... Have the referees make bad calls every now and then. That's how they come up in real games that a coach or player(s) see the play differently. Think of this situation... Rasheed Wallace goes up for a shot and some one "blocks him" on the hand and the ref don't call it, but let's the game go on. Now there could be some sort of an intensity factor and if high the player could go off at the coach, and thus result in a technical foul. Or when a ball goes out of bounds and the ref makes a bad call and atleast the crowd could react to it and/or players and coaches. This could be implemented by bringing back the referees to the sidelines and giving them stats aswell... Something to do with their attitudes and decisions.
And then give a button for complaining to the ref if a player would wish to do so... I sometimes get so frustrated in the game that I'd like to say a few things about that "offensive foul" every now and then... And this could have different results... Maybe ref keeping an eye out for similar situation better or a technical foul etc. It would bring a whole new strategic element to the game. And I'd love it, and I don't think it would be even too hard to implement.
Tue Mar 25, 2003 7:13 am
Metsis said:
That would would be so cool. Every time I get one of those "offensive fouls" called on me I audibly yell at my computer and want to take a sledgehammer to it and/or rip out the disk drive. I would hit the complaint button a lot. It would be a game in itself. I'm sure it would be a very popular feature. And maybe sometimes when I complain and a situation gets out of hand, players and coaches from the other team would get upset and that would be the opportunity for fights and suspensions and maybe injuries in severe situations.
I am not sure though whether it would be better if the ref would "warn" you before he tees you up and along the way you would have choices whether to react player confrontation or choose to stop before it starts, or whether everything would be random and you would have no control over the situation. And if it was decided that the ref would warn players every time, then would it be better to have a set number of warns (like 1) or if the number of warns (0-whatever) is dependent upon: ref "fuse" rating, player "fuse", "likeability", "fan favorite", etc. ratings, situation, time left in game, playoffs or regular season, and maybe even which arena (sacramento and philly are hostile).
Just bouncing around ideas like I always do.
And then give a button for complaining to the ref if a player would wish to do so... I sometimes get so frustrated in the game that I'd like to say a few things about that "offensive foul" every now and then
That would would be so cool. Every time I get one of those "offensive fouls" called on me I audibly yell at my computer and want to take a sledgehammer to it and/or rip out the disk drive. I would hit the complaint button a lot. It would be a game in itself. I'm sure it would be a very popular feature. And maybe sometimes when I complain and a situation gets out of hand, players and coaches from the other team would get upset and that would be the opportunity for fights and suspensions and maybe injuries in severe situations.
I am not sure though whether it would be better if the ref would "warn" you before he tees you up and along the way you would have choices whether to react player confrontation or choose to stop before it starts, or whether everything would be random and you would have no control over the situation. And if it was decided that the ref would warn players every time, then would it be better to have a set number of warns (like 1) or if the number of warns (0-whatever) is dependent upon: ref "fuse" rating, player "fuse", "likeability", "fan favorite", etc. ratings, situation, time left in game, playoffs or regular season, and maybe even which arena (sacramento and philly are hostile).
Just bouncing around ideas like I always do.
Tue Mar 25, 2003 1:09 pm
Right after we moved into our house I was playing and got pissed, and punched some holes in some boxes. More than worth it, what has been getting me latley is the ball getting hacked out of my hands when I'm doing two handed dunks.want to take a sledgehammer to it
Thu Mar 27, 2003 1:11 am
Again my point was that going to the ref would maybe make a difference in the "foul" calling etc. Or it could go as far as the technical foul... Then there could be the players that just off at the ref. When you press the complain button it could result in your captain going to the ref.
It could have any number of results. And these results would effect the refs way of looking at the game. Sometimes you can do somethings on the basketball court and sometimes you can't... It always depends on the ref and that's why sometimes the refs get blamed for a loss in the final seconds etc.
A ref could have an attitude meter towards both teams and if high he would some simple fouls go by or he could be sending your guys to the showers by the dozens. It would bring back some life to the game...
Sometimes I get so frustrated that I'd hope there was a button for this... Not just yelling at the screen, when once again a defender runs past the attacker and "attracts" an offensive foul... And again the could call it wrong... In which case the use of the button would be indeed needed.
There are a huge score of refs in the league, I don't think that they would object of being implemented into the game. And a simple questionnaire could map out refs basic attitudes and then add a little randomness to the stats and there we go. And add an intensity rating to players...
It could have any number of results. And these results would effect the refs way of looking at the game. Sometimes you can do somethings on the basketball court and sometimes you can't... It always depends on the ref and that's why sometimes the refs get blamed for a loss in the final seconds etc.
A ref could have an attitude meter towards both teams and if high he would some simple fouls go by or he could be sending your guys to the showers by the dozens. It would bring back some life to the game...
Sometimes I get so frustrated that I'd hope there was a button for this... Not just yelling at the screen, when once again a defender runs past the attacker and "attracts" an offensive foul... And again the could call it wrong... In which case the use of the button would be indeed needed.
There are a huge score of refs in the league, I don't think that they would object of being implemented into the game. And a simple questionnaire could map out refs basic attitudes and then add a little randomness to the stats and there we go. And add an intensity rating to players...