Thoughts on modding 2K24

[vetmin]

With 2K24 apparently still being old-gen, I'm curious what people's thoughts are re: modding the game, assuming it does turn out to be essentially just 2K23 with Kobe Challenge instead of Jordan Challenge.

Do you want to see looyh immediately shift gears to 2K24 and focus on getting the Hook, Tools, Blacktop+, etc. out on the new game, or would you rather see him hang back on 2K23 and focus on adding / discovering new stuff for that game instead of starting over on 2K24?

If 2K24 cyberfaces don't work in 2K23, then when you head over to 2KSpecialist or Shuajota, do you want to see pages full of 2K24 cyberfaces, or still mostly stuff for 2K23? PPP has announced that for his Patreon, regardless of how things shake out with reverse compatibility, his creations will be for both games (I hope for his sake that 2K23/24 cyberfaces are interchangeable like 2K21/22 ones). He recognizes and supports that many folks will not think it worth their money to get the new game.

I guess this is a roundabout way of asking if you anticipate switching to 2K24 as your main game or if you think you'll just continue on 2K23, and also what the implications would be for the modding community (which tends to dutifully switch gears to the new game upon release) if you think many people will not get 2K24 (or at least not until it's free or nearly free halfway through the game's life cycle).

[Shuajota]

I´ll buy it as always. I hope that 2K23 cyberfaces work in NBA 2K24 without the need to convert files. If that were the case, and Looyh released 2K24 Tools, I would be willing to bring my project PCBasket to 2K24 while still keeping 2K23 alive because I know many people will continue playing 2K23 for a long time.

[Andrew]

History suggests a lot of people are still going to move on and get NBA 2K24. That's traditionally been the case, even going back to the heyday of NBA Live modding. I'm all for sticking with a game you enjoy (both playing and modding it), but it's also important to move forward and make sure the tools are there for the latest release as well.

Even though it's not going to be a PS5/XSX|S port, NBA 2K24 PC could still have other enhancements, and certainly new content, that make the community want to play and mod it. There'll be interest in a modding scene, and thus the need for the appropriate tools.

[trekfan1013]

Personally, I'll be staying on 2K23 until at least January/February, barring an amazing mod release that changes the calculus. I'm actually looking forward to the new game, as that will mean 2K will stop updating 23, and the modding community can be left alone in peace.

It is inevitable that the community, by and large, will move onto 2K24 and that's fine -- I look forward to seeing what they come up with. But I just moved off 2K20 last February and I don't foresee a real reason to get 24 at this point: I doubt the game is gonna be much different beyond the new rosters/Mamba Moments.

[BlazerGun1]

if NBA2K24 lacks modes like MyEras and such I think it's just better to stay and focus on NBA2K23 - I think modders might understimate the effect they have ( for once, this last few years I bought this game ONLY because of the potential it had thanks to modders ) .

[vetmin]

I’m sure it was pretty clear from the tone of my post but I’m staying on 2K23, both as a modder and gamer.

I´ll buy it as always. I hope that 2K23 cyberfaces work in NBA 2K24 without the need to convert files. If that were the case, and Looyh released 2K24 Tools, I would be willing to bring my project PCBasket to 2K24 while still keeping 2K23 alive because I know many people will continue playing 2K23 for a long time.

PC Basket was actually one of the things I was thinking about as I wrote the post, as it’s the sort of in-depth project that is hurt by the short 2K cycle (assuming the project is migrated to the new game each year). I didn’t know if you might take this disappointing 2K24 situation as an opportunity to have a true, fully focused 2-year go at the project.

Thanks for sharing your plans, and I’m glad to hear that the 2K23 version will continue to be developed; I hope that almost everything transfers seamlessly to 2K24 so that you can spend less time porting assets and more time adding to / polishing the work you’ve already done.

History suggests a lot of people are still going to move on and get NBA 2K24. That's traditionally been the case, even going back to the heyday of NBA Live modding. I'm all for sticking with a game you enjoy (both playing and modding it), but it's also important to move forward and make sure the tools are there for the latest release as well.

Even though it's not going to be a PS5/XSX|S port, NBA 2K24 PC could still have other enhancements, and certainly new content, that make the community want to play and mod it. There'll be interest in a modding scene, and thus the need for the appropriate tools.

Compared to some of you I’m relatively new to 2K and hoops gaming in general (I’ve never played a Live game), but the frustration just feels different this time. You’re right that most will likely switch over, but I think the percentage of people who will hang around on the previous installment (for at least several months) will jump significantly this year, and I wonder if more modders will follow PPP’s lead in releasing stuff for both games (if they’re not already compatible).

The main thing for me is that, if the game is as similar as I’m betting it will be, I’m not inclined to play it without the full arsenal of looyh’s stuff. I’m not a Blacktop guy but I doubt that everyone who waited for Blacktop+ on 2K23 is willing to jump over to a vanilla version of essentially the same game (again, as I’m betting) and begin the wait again. And if indeed people are hanging back to enjoy their 2K23 mods, I wonder if modders will cater to that reality by continuing to release for 2K23 as well.

Even if that’s what I’d prefer, my money is on everything going 100% to 2K24 right away, if not simply because it’s a new toy. (I of course want there to be a 2K24 Hook though so we can at the very least extract stuff from the game.)

I'm actually looking forward to the new game, as that will mean 2K will stop updating 23, and the modding community can be left alone in peace.

+1. No more patches = stable plugins and Cheat Engine tables. It’s also a relief regardless of platform because no more patches means no more gameplay tweaks, i.e., we can settle on good sliders and not have them thrown outta wavk by an update.

if NBA2K24 lacks modes like MyEras and such I think it's just better to stay and focus on NBA2K23 - I think modders might understimate the effect they have ( for once, this last few years I bought this game ONLY because of the potential it had thanks to modders ) .

I agree even though I think most will head straight to 2K24. It sounds like some of our most skilled modders though still intend to include 2K23 for future releases, which is a relief.

[vinrich10]

if NBA2K24 lacks modes like MyEras and such I think it's just better to stay and focus on NBA2K23 - I think modders might understimate the effect they have ( for once, this last few years I bought this game ONLY because of the potential it had thanks to modders ) .

Really hoping they add MyEras to the PC

[sticky-fingers]

If 2k24 is a minor evolution of 2k23/22/21 GamePlay, i think i will do the same that on those last 3 years. Modding a very few the game, helping guys on few mods, but still play/mod a lot older 2k (15/16/17)

[Murat]

I hope one of the modders succeed to change the entire commentary. With AI techniques being available, it should be possible to create Mike Breen-Mark Jackson-JVG duo. Or adding Bill Walton.