New Discoveries/ Multiple appearances for same CF ID

[TGsoGood]

For those of you that are fairly new to modding CF ID is Cyber Face ID #. This is the ID number assigned to a player's appearance (skin textures and 3D model) in game.
An example is Lebron's CF ID is 1013. That means we can manipulate and mod (modify) files face1013.iff and png1013.iff to change lebron's look. There may also be more files associated with a players CF ID like the hair and facial hair files.


2K's art team has quietly done some nice work with the file structure of art assets
I have noticed that players can have multiple facial textures, I think this can be assigned through the appearance_info.RDAT file.

Example is CF ID 7855 is used for a set of twins (Cody and Caleb Martin - both on the Hornets) .
Here are all the face.iff assigned to 7855

Face file #1 - face7855.iff
Face file #2 - face7855_facialhair_ponytail.iff
Face file #3 - face7855_hair_ponytail.iff

same thing with Marquese Chris - CF ID is 7210
Face file #1 - face7210.iff
Face file #2 - face7210_facialhair_01.iff
Face file #3 - face7210_hair_braids.iff

EDIT:
This means we can assign multiple looks to a player using the same CF ID.
If you have ever noticed that sometimes players have different looks with a headband and without (DLo Russell) or has a haircut in edit player but braids in game (Russell Westbrook at beginning of the year.

This would be great for retro rosters and draft classes if we can figure this out.

[TGsoGood]

-reserved for more info

I assume no here will be excited for the potential for this except hardcore mod creators.
I know once you guys see how this can be used you will appreciate this.

The best example I currently have is my Facial Progression mod from back in 2K14
Link to thread - viewtopic.php?f=153&t=96056

Back then I figured out a way
to put three different looks into one player



Or like this young version of Melo that I could
switch between afro and braids




Last example

[mrk326]

From what I know, these "looks" are controlled by the appearance_info.rdat.

[TGsoGood]

From what I know, these "looks" are controlled by the appearance_info.rdat.

I believe there is also a way to do it in game because the game assigns different looks for the same ID in the default roster already.
I believe Kyrie on the cavs and Kyrie on the nets use same ID. I will have to find a specific example and take screenshots to provide for this thread once I figure out more examples.

[thisisme]

I don't mod myself but I downloaded this Jrue Holiday mod that does exactly what you describe. Different hairstyles based on if he's wearing a headband/tie.

https://www.2kspecialist.net/2020/05/jr ... model.html

[Andrew]

Interesting stuff! As you said, that could be very useful for retro projects and the like if it can be properly harnessed. Great work as always, TG!