2K21 converted to 2K20 - 14 Players Released

Can you make Wenyen Gabriel (Pelicans)?
I would really appreciate it!

None of these are “made”, they are conversions of scanned players from 2k21. That being said Gabriel was scanned so a conversion is possible.

Obviously what he meant was "make a conversion of Wenyen". Don't be so literal with your English bruh lol

There’s a word for “make a conversion”. It’s called “convert”, ya know the verb...

It may seem like semantics and users who do conversions are a huge asset, but it shouldn’t overshadow the talents of those who actually make the faces from scratch, modder or otherwise. Credit where credit is due.

Can you make Wenyen Gabriel (Pelicans)?
I would really appreciate it!

None of these are “made”, they are conversions of scanned players from 2k21. That being said Gabriel was scanned so a conversion is possible.

Obviously what he meant was "make a conversion of Wenyen". Don't be so literal with your English bruh lol

There’s a word for “make a conversion”. It’s called “convert”, ya know the verb...

It may seem like semantics and users who do conversions are a huge asset, but it shouldn’t overshadow the talents of those who actually make the faces from scratch, modder or otherwise. Credit where credit is due.

To avoid misunderstanding ,I will change the title of the thread.

I noticed Lou Williams finally got a hair update in 2k21 can you convert him when you can please?

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Can you make Wenyen Gabriel (Pelicans)?
I would really appreciate it!

None of these are “made”, they are conversions of scanned players from 2k21. That being said Gabriel was scanned so a conversion is possible.

Obviously what he meant was "make a conversion of Wenyen". Don't be so literal with your English bruh lol

There’s a word for “make a conversion”. It’s called “convert”, ya know the verb...

It may seem like semantics and users who do conversions are a huge asset, but it shouldn’t overshadow the talents of those who actually make the faces from scratch, modder or otherwise. Credit where credit is due.

There's no point if the correct word is "make", "make a conversion", or "convert". We all know here that this is a conversion thread.

There's no point also of comparing his works to those who make cyberfaces from scratch (which i believe you are one). Totally two different things. I can feel some sort of intimidation from you. No need to bring that here.

Can you make Wenyen Gabriel (Pelicans)?
I would really appreciate it!

None of these are “made”, they are conversions of scanned players from 2k21. That being said Gabriel was scanned so a conversion is possible.

Obviously what he meant was "make a conversion of Wenyen". Don't be so literal with your English bruh lol

There’s a word for “make a conversion”. It’s called “convert”, ya know the verb...

It may seem like semantics and users who do conversions are a huge asset, but it shouldn’t overshadow the talents of those who actually make the faces from scratch, modder or otherwise. Credit where credit is due.

There's no point if the correct word is "make", "make a conversion", or "convert". We all know here that this is a conversion thread.

There's no point also of comparing his works to those who make cyberfaces from scratch (which i believe you are one). Totally two different things. I can feel some sort of intimidation from you. No need to bring that here.

There is a difference between “making” a Cyberface and “converting” an already created work. You may not grasp it but the difference is real. It’s the same reason we don’t “pay” for mods but can “donate” if you like the creations of a specific user. Words matter. I can absolutely see a scenario where someone stumbles upon this thread from outside this community and asks him to “make” a face not in 2k21 that is ready for conversion. I’m glad OP cleared it up that these are conversions.

I am in no way intimidated by this thread or anyone in it. I have literally every conversion from 2k21 with my own tattoos over the top. I don’t need these works, but it’s awesome of him to share with the community.

OP, keep up the great work. Excited to see who’s next.

Can you make Wenyen Gabriel (Pelicans)?
I would really appreciate it!

None of these are “made”, they are conversions of scanned players from 2k21. That being said Gabriel was scanned so a conversion is possible.

Obviously what he meant was "make a conversion of Wenyen". Don't be so literal with your English bruh lol

There’s a word for “make a conversion”. It’s called “convert”, ya know the verb...

It may seem like semantics and users who do conversions are a huge asset, but it shouldn’t overshadow the talents of those who actually make the faces from scratch, modder or otherwise. Credit where credit is due.

There's no point if the correct word is "make", "make a conversion", or "convert". We all know here that this is a conversion thread.

There's no point also of comparing his works to those who make cyberfaces from scratch (which i believe you are one). Totally two different things. I can feel some sort of intimidation from you. No need to bring that here.

There is a difference between “making” a Cyberface and “converting” an already created work. You may not grasp it but the difference is real. It’s the same reason we don’t “pay” for mods but can “donate” if you like the creations of a specific user. Words matter. I can absolutely see a scenario where someone stumbles upon this thread from outside this community and asks him to “make” a face not in 2k21 that is ready for conversion. I’m glad OP cleared it up that these are conversions.

I am in no way intimidated by this thread or anyone in it. I have literally every conversion from 2k21 with my own tattoos over the top. I don’t need these works, but it’s awesome of him to share with the community.

OP, keep up the great work. Excited to see who’s next.

You come across real arrogant here. I don't see why you're always involved in some drama here that YOU create. Despite your contributions you're constantly doing this kinda stuff. Can't you just keep your negativity to yourself? What's the point of these back-handed compliments and complaining?

Can you make Wenyen Gabriel (Pelicans)?
I would really appreciate it!

None of these are “made”, they are conversions of scanned players from 2k21. That being said Gabriel was scanned so a conversion is possible.

Obviously what he meant was "make a conversion of Wenyen". Don't be so literal with your English bruh lol

There’s a word for “make a conversion”. It’s called “convert”, ya know the verb...

It may seem like semantics and users who do conversions are a huge asset, but it shouldn’t overshadow the talents of those who actually make the faces from scratch, modder or otherwise. Credit where credit is due.

There's no point if the correct word is "make", "make a conversion", or "convert". We all know here that this is a conversion thread.

There's no point also of comparing his works to those who make cyberfaces from scratch (which i believe you are one). Totally two different things. I can feel some sort of intimidation from you. No need to bring that here.

There is a difference between “making” a Cyberface and “converting” an already created work. You may not grasp it but the difference is real. It’s the same reason we don’t “pay” for mods but can “donate” if you like the creations of a specific user. Words matter. I can absolutely see a scenario where someone stumbles upon this thread from outside this community and asks him to “make” a face not in 2k21 that is ready for conversion. I’m glad OP cleared it up that these are conversions.

I am in no way intimidated by this thread or anyone in it. I have literally every conversion from 2k21 with my own tattoos over the top. I don’t need these works, but it’s awesome of him to share with the community.

OP, keep up the great work. Excited to see who’s next.

Just like I said, converting and making cyberfaces are totally two different things, was able to grasp the difference for real from the start lol ( and I don't know why you keep on emphasizing that here).

Then you have all the conversions from 2k21 with your "own" tattoos (why are you bragging that?) and you are excited to see what he will release next? That doesn't make sense. What are you excited about?

And now you're complimenting him but you started this drama telling that he didn't "MADE" anything here. That sounds hypocrite to me.

You come across real arrogant here. I don't see why you're always involved in some drama here that YOU create. Despite your contributions you're constantly doing this kinda stuff. Can't you just keep your negativity to yourself? What's the point of these back-handed compliments and complaining?

You take what I say as arrogant and that’s fine. That’s your prerogative. There is literally no drama and no negativity beyond what you imagine is some slight. I genuinely like to see conversions as it keeps interest alive for 2k20. OP is a huge asset to the community with these conversions. But I’ve been around here long enough to know that if you don’t specify these are conversions, someone will come in an ask for you to make a “Patrick Mahomes cyberface” or something off the wall that isn’t a conversion. If you’re clear up front, it heads some of that off. Plus, for as much as I’m not a supporter of 2k, I think credit is important and the fact these are 2k renders originally should be shown some level of recognition. I’m not sure where you think the drama is. We don’t need to be soft, we can have conversations and disagreements rationally and discuss accordingly.

Just like I said, converting and making cyberfaces are totally two different things, was able to grasp the difference for real from the start lol ( and I don't know why you keep on emphasizing that here).

Then you have all the conversions from 2k21 with your "own" tattoos (why are you bragging that?) and you are excited to see what he will release next? That doesn't make sense. What are you excited about?

And now you're complimenting him but you started this drama telling that he didn't "MADE" anything here. That sounds hypocrite to me.

I’m in no way bragging, I’m saying I don’t need the content but it’s still important to the community at large. I can have all these conversions and still be excited to see who he’s doing next, it’s two distinct thoughts. Just like I can be excited to see the screenshot you post after every release. It’s a genuine interest in community content. You said I was intimidated, I’m telling you I have the content so there’s no need for me to be intimidated.

I don’t know how the “made” vs “converted” got construed as an insult. Reference my above response, but I don’t take anything away from OP. This is a great addition of content and he’s hosting it on the NLSC which is even better. I’m just saying “made” is a specific term and could cause confusion. He may get asked to “make” faces without conversions from 2k21. I’ve got no issue with OP. Hell, I originally tried to point out to a commentor the need for “convert” without OP involved at all.

“Make” implies some level of creative endevour to me beyond “convert”. “Make” involves editing the face files and likely the model to create something brand new. 2k already created this content from 2k21 so I think it’s important to recognize them for these high quality scans. Again, I’m not blasting and this isn’t drama, I just think words matter. If you ported another modders work to 2k21 from 2k20, would you say you “made” it? I doubt that very much and the community would rightly be upset. I think we should give 2k21 to 2k20 works the same treatment. They are conversions, they aren’t being made by the OP, regardless of user.

You come across real arrogant here. I don't see why you're always involved in some drama here that YOU create. Despite your contributions you're constantly doing this kinda stuff. Can't you just keep your negativity to yourself? What's the point of these back-handed compliments and complaining?

You take what I say as arrogant and that’s fine. That’s your prerogative. There is literally no drama and no negativity beyond what you imagine is some slight. I genuinely like to see conversions as it keeps interest alive for 2k20. OP is a huge asset to the community with these conversions. But I’ve been around here long enough to know that if you don’t specify these are conversions, someone will come in an ask for you to make a “Patrick Mahomes cyberface” or something off the wall that isn’t a conversion. If you’re clear up front, it heads some of that off. Plus, for as much as I’m not a supporter of 2k, I think credit is important and the fact these are 2k renders originally should be shown some level of recognition. I’m not sure where you think the drama is. We don’t need to be soft, we can have conversations and disagreements rationally and discuss accordingly.

Just like I said, converting and making cyberfaces are totally two different things, was able to grasp the difference for real from the start lol ( and I don't know why you keep on emphasizing that here).

Then you have all the conversions from 2k21 with your "own" tattoos (why are you bragging that?) and you are excited to see what he will release next? That doesn't make sense. What are you excited about?

And now you're complimenting him but you started this drama telling that he didn't "MADE" anything here. That sounds hypocrite to me.

I’m in no way bragging, I’m saying I don’t need the content but it’s still important to the community at large. I can have all these conversions and still be excited to see who he’s doing next, it’s two distinct thoughts. Just like I can be excited to see the screenshot you post after every release. It’s a genuine interest in community content. You said I was intimidated, I’m telling you I have the content so there’s no need for me to be intimidated.

I don’t know how the “made” vs “converted” got construed as an insult. Reference my above response, but I don’t take anything away from OP. This is a great addition of content and he’s hosting it on the NLSC which is even better. I’m just saying “made” is a specific term and could cause confusion. He may get asked to “make” faces without conversions from 2k21. I’ve got no issue with OP. Hell, I originally tried to point out to a commentor the need for “convert” without OP involved at all.

“Make” implies some level of creative endevour to me beyond “convert”. “Make” involves editing the face files and likely the model to create something brand new. 2k already created this content from 2k21 so I think it’s important to recognize them for these high quality scans. Again, I’m not blasting and this isn’t drama, I just think words matter. If you ported another modders work to 2k21 from 2k20, would you say you “made” it? I doubt that very much and the community would rightly be upset. I think we should give 2k21 to 2k20 works the same treatment. They are conversions, they aren’t being made by the OP, regardless of user.

First off, you were definitely bragging. It was pretty evident. It wasn't remotely subtle.

Secondly, you can skip me on all the semantic nonsense you're spewing. Not one other person is buying it.

And lastly, have you ever noticed that you're the only one ever having these so called "disagreements"? I've watched you get into it with multiple people on these forums for literally no reason. At some point you have to put your ego aside and realize you're the only common denominator in all these situations.

First off, you were definitely bragging. It was pretty evident. It wasn't remotely subtle.

Secondly, you can skip me on all the semantic nonsense you're spewing. Not one other person is buying it.

And lastly, have you ever noticed that you're the only one ever having these so called "disagreements"? I've watched you get into it with multiple people on these forums for literally no reason. At some point you have to put your ego aside and realize you're the only common denominator in all these situations.

If this is the level of discourse, we are definitely done here. You said I was bragging, I described to you why I wasn’t, and your response essentially boils down to “nah uh”. If you just deny things that’s fine, but that’s not an intelligent conversation. Here I’ll break it down...

Person 1: You are bragging
Person 2: I’m not bragging, I’m responding to a previous statement. Here’s why I said what I said...
Person 1: No, you are

See why that’s just not helpful to anyone or anything? I was informed I spoke up originally because I was “intimidated” by this thread. I informed them i was not intimidated because I had the content and even had added tattoos to the players, i.e. I don’t feel intimidated because I’ve got more than what is in the thread. That’s not bragging, that’s an explanation.


I don’t need anyone to buy the “semantics” argument. That’s my reasoning for posting it and if you don’t believe it that’s fine, but you probably shouldn’t speak for everyone. It’s an important distinction to make between “made” and “converted”.

I’m not the only person getting into disagreements. There are several on the 2k21 forums that I just lurk and watch unfold. Maybe you have a problem with me and always feel compelled to comment when I disagree with a practice, but that’s you following me, not me chasing an argument. Everyone else had no problem ignoring the comment but two people wanted to continue the discussion, yourself and another commentor. I’m willing to oblige. Let’s discuss, but just dismissing points is juvenile. You felt the need to chime in and I’d love to hear where you disagreed with my previous points.

"There’s a word for “make a conversion”. It’s called “convert”, ya know the verb...It may seem like semantics and users who do conversions are a huge asset, but it shouldn’t overshadow the talents of those who actually make the faces from scratch, modder or otherwise. Credit where credit is due." - So demean other people's work so you can get the praise you want. Got it.

"You may not grasp it but the difference is real." - Condescending someone per usual. Not to mention his previous comment clarified that there was a distinction but that he thought you were overreacting to the semantics of the word. Yet you ignore that and get an attitude. SHOCKING.

"I am in no way intimidated by this thread or anyone in it. I have literally every conversion from 2k21 with my own tattoos over the top. I don’t need these works" - In what world is this not bragging to you? Any sensible person reading that is likely going to come to the same conclusion. The fact that more than one person is calling you out on it should be a clear indicator of your lack of self-awareness.

"OP, keep up the great work. Excited to see who’s next." - This coming from someone who went out of their way for no reason at all to demean his work. Quite literally the definition of a back-handed compliment. Very hypocritical to boot.

"If this is the level of discourse, we are definitely done here." - Yet you continue to go on anyways.

"I was informed I spoke up originally because I was “intimidated” by this thread." - Perhaps that isn't the correct word for it but jealously might fit a little better in my opinion. I mean why even post here if you have something "that's better"? It served no real purpose than to demean another person while patting yourself on the back. Furthermore, if you had such an issue with the literal wording of the post (which is rather trivial to begin with), a private message would suffice. You made it a point to do it publicly so you could put down yet another poster's work. Which is typical ego-driven jealous behavior.

"I don’t need anyone to buy the “semantics” argument. That’s my reasoning for posting it and if you don’t believe it that’s fine, but you probably shouldn’t speak for everyone. It’s an important distinction to make between “made” and “converted”." - That's cool that you think that but it's a case of the boy who cried wolf. You've now done this MULTIPLE TIMES and behaved similarly on numerous threads. The ironic thing is that you get plenty of praise on your work here so there's really no need to be immature enough to feel compelled to correct someone over the usage of a word. Even if your "argument", and I use that term loosely, has some truth to it, it's all rather trivial none the less.

"I’m not the only person getting into disagreements. There are several on the 2k21 forums that I just lurk and watch unfold." - Yeah little things here and there for sure. Unfortunately, you have had several issues with the likes of Shuajota, PettyPaulPierce, Mr. Star, and now this one and that's just what I can name off the top of my head. I'm sure there's more to add to that list too if I really went through your posts... I mean don't you think that's a lot for one person? Also, why does pointing out someone else's arguments make you feel better about the unnecessary ones you've created? Not a lot of logic behind that statement.

To summarize, it's as if whenever someone is doing something similar to you (creating new rookie classes, filling in the current roster) that you get jealous and have to start drama over it, usually resulting in similar types of posts and attempts to demean someone's work. Then you sum it all up with some backhanded compliments and pretend you're the righteous guy at the end of it. I've seen you do this multiple times now and you DESERVE to be called out on it. I appreciate your work as much as anyone but at a certain point your ego is simply getting the best of you. Again there was no need for you to post anything here like that and if you truly wanted a distinction to be made, you could have sent a private message instead of getting upset at someone's usage of the word make. This is all silly nonsense created for no reason. Period.

"There’s a word for “make a conversion”. It’s called “convert”, ya know the verb...It may seem like semantics and users who do conversions are a huge asset, but it shouldn’t overshadow the talents of those who actually make the faces from scratch, modder or otherwise. Credit where credit is due." - So demean other people's work so you can get the praise you want. Got it.

How is that demeaning? In what way is saying, "A does not equal B" equate to demeaning. Conversions are hugly important, I do them constantly. I have an appreciation for the work it takes. That being said, it is not "making" a face. The face file is just dropped into 2k20 full.

"You may not grasp it but the difference is real." - Condescending someone per usual. Not to mention his previous comment clarified that there was a distinction but that he thought you were overreacting to the semantics of the word. Yet you ignore that and get an attitude. SHOCKING.

Well if you're still arguing the fact there is no difference then you may not grasp it either. That's totally okay. Most people don't mod and don't see a difference. I'm just saying that if people, especially those new to the forum see someone who "makes" faces, the expectation will be they can create something from scratch, and that's a tough ask. It would save future confusion if the original commentor used "convert". OP has always indicated these are conversions, in fact, they clarified it again after the original discussion.

"I am in no way intimidated by this thread or anyone in it. I have literally every conversion from 2k21 with my own tattoos over the top. I don’t need these works" - In what world is this not bragging to you? Any sensible person reading that is likely going to come to the same conclusion. The fact that more than one person is calling you out on it should be a clear indicator of your lack of self-awareness.

You're reading it that way and that's fine. If somebody says you're just intimidated/jealous because you don't have A, and I respond with I'm not intimidated/jealous because I have A+B, that is giving clear reasoning for why I'm not intimidated/jealous. I'd love to hear a way to respond to "you're just intimidated by X" without sighting examples of why that is not the case. Just saying, no I'm not is a weak argument.

"OP, keep up the great work. Excited to see who’s next." - This coming from someone who went out of their way for no reason at all to demean his work. Quite literally the definition of a back-handed compliment. Very hypocritical to boot.

Again, didn't demean anyone. Separate the original correction of a commentor from the view of OP and their content. I'm able to do that perfectly, I hope you can too.

"If this is the level of discourse, we are definitely done here." - Yet you continue to go on anyways.

Well, you certainly repsonded with some higher levels of discussion did you not? Glad to have sparked the discussion.

"I was informed I spoke up originally because I was “intimidated” by this thread." - Perhaps that isn't the correct word for it but jealously might fit a little better in my opinion. I mean why even post here if you have something "that's better"? It served no real purpose than to demean another person while patting yourself on the back. Furthermore, if you had such an issue with the literal wording of the post (which is rather trivial to begin with), a private message would suffice. You made it a point to do it publicly so you could put down yet another poster's work. Which is typical ego-driven jealous behavior.

Again, separate the correction of a comment from my opinion of OP's work. I have no reason to PM OP and quite frankly I'm glad this turned into the discussion it has publically. I wish it stayed on point of "conversion" vs "make" but it devolved into personal attacks.

"I don’t need anyone to buy the “semantics” argument. That’s my reasoning for posting it and if you don’t believe it that’s fine, but you probably shouldn’t speak for everyone. It’s an important distinction to make between “made” and “converted”." - That's cool that you think that but it's a case of the boy who cried wolf. You've now done this MULTIPLE TIMES and behaved similarly on numerous threads. The ironic thing is that you get plenty of praise on your work here so there's really no need to be immature enough to feel compelled to correct someone over the usage of a word. Even if your "argument", and I use that term loosely, has some truth to it, it's all rather trivial none the less.

I don't care about my work here at all. We can dive into that when we discuss ego later, but making a point of conversion vs creation is one I think needs discussed or at least used properly. Past behavior doesn't invalidate an argument. That's just a personal attack which is frankly anyone has really had. I made a point that we should be careful to not interchange conversion and creation. I gave multiple reasons and so far nobody has actually discussed that point, they just all want to freak out like it was some attack. You both read malice into where there was none.

"I’m not the only person getting into disagreements. There are several on the 2k21 forums that I just lurk and watch unfold." - Yeah little things here and there for sure. Unfortunately, you have had several issues with the likes of Shuajota, PettyPaulPierce, Mr. Star, and now this one and that's just what I can name off the top of my head. I'm sure there's more to add to that list too if I really went through your posts... I mean don't you think that's a lot for one person? Also, why does pointing out someone else's arguments make you feel better about the unnecessary ones you've created? Not a lot of logic behind that statement.

Your previous statement, along with the crux of this paragraph, amounted to a presumption that I cause a disproportionate amount of drama here. I was simply pointing out that drama occurs in other places without me involved. I can go through each extended discussion and disagreement I've had with other users in the past. Mostly those started like this one, I thought some practice was probably not a great precedent to start (Kicksology having a paid tier, Shuajota releasing stuff with PMs, etc). I think the forum survived all of those and will long outlast me going forward. I put my opinion out there just like anyone else can. If people agree, great but if not its the minority and it is silenced. You've brought more attention to this than I ever expected, I just wish it was less personal and more substantive.

To summarize, it's as if whenever someone is doing something similar to you (creating new rookie classes, filling in the current roster) that you get jealous and have to start drama over it, usually resulting in similar types of posts and attempts to demean someone's work. Then you sum it all up with some backhanded compliments and pretend you're the righteous guy at the end of it. I've seen you do this multiple times now and you DESERVE to be called out on it. I appreciate your work as much as anyone but at a certain point your ego is simply getting the best of you. Again there was no need for you to post anything here like that and if you truly wanted a distinction to be made, you could have sent a private message instead of getting upset at someone's usage of the word make. This is all silly nonsense created for no reason. Period.

So to the ego thing, I've said this tons of times but I don't know how you can think I have an ego with this. I've never posted to social media, I don't have a Youtube account other than to show a single game of gameplay once a year. I don't tweet at players, I don't want to be hired by 2k, etc. I've called out Shuajota about releasing his draft class only because I announced a release date and his dropped immedately. I felt like that was intentional. I've pushed back my own release dates to allow other projects or cyberface makers to get a headstart.

Why would I be opposed to someone filling in the roster? I have mine filled in. I have faces 2k didn't scan for 2k21 (again not a brag, an explanation for lack of ego or jealousy). That doesn't even make logical sense for me to be jealous. I enjoy this community and like to see others do important things. I've donated to most major modders on here and will continue to do so in the future because I think this place does wonderful things.

PM's don't start a conversation. They're obviously private in nature. With as much as conversions have taken off, I think it should be clear when something is a creation and something is a conversion. If I take LosJosh's amazing 2k21 Lamelo texture and drop it on default 2k20 Lamelo, I didn't make Lamelo Ball. I "converted" a 2k21 product. I think that's an important distinction for proper crediting and to avoid burdensome requests. Maybe people disagree but I'd love to hear the rationale instead of the personal attacks.

Please stop this! We need mods not arguments!

Please stop this! We need mods not arguments!

Yeah I’m done derailing the thread. I still think words matter and “conversion” is different than “make”. Regardless, makes sense to get back to the regularly scheduled content. Best of luck with the conversions, OP. Hopefully you can do guys that got added in patches like Bowman and such.

Please stop this! We need mods not arguments!

Yeah I’m done derailing the thread. I still think words matter and “conversion” is different than “make”. Regardless, makes sense to get back to the regularly scheduled content. Best of luck with the conversions, OP. Hopefully you can do guys that got added in patches like Bowman and such.

You killed the mood in this thread. You started the "word matters" drama which is just pretty non sense, unnecessary, and inappropriate here. Just accept the fact that you are intimidated and jealous. You feel entitled because you "make" cyberfaces that's why we should praise you and not this kind of stuff lol.

PS. Of course you will reply to this because you can't accept criticisms and will always defend yourself thinking that you are always right. Can't wait to hear your explanations

By the way, thanks to these works Sir jaychung! Hope you continue this even tho someone in this thread obviously doesn't want to.

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Nice work man!! i would like to request for Dame Lillard and Blake Griffin conversions, if it'd be ok.. thanks for your efforts, more power!!

Blake Griffin




Download:https://forums.nba-live.com/downloads.php?view=detail&df_id=12496


Damian Lillard
(2K21 didn't change Lillard's headshape so I just use 2k20's model)




Download:https://forums.nba-live.com/downloads.php?view=detail&df_id=12497

Your conversions are appreciated, but if we agreed that you were going to do the some rookies and missing players, I don't understand why you are doing other players. If I helped you make your conversions work correctly it was to optimize the work and organize ourselves because I am spending time on these nba players...

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Please stop this! We need mods not arguments!

Yeah I’m done derailing the thread. I still think words matter and “conversion” is different than “make”. Regardless, makes sense to get back to the regularly scheduled content. Best of luck with the conversions, OP. Hopefully you can do guys that got added in patches like Bowman and such.

You killed the mood in this thread. You started the "word matters" drama which is just pretty non sense, unnecessary, and inappropriate here. Just accept the fact that you are intimidated and jealous. You feel entitled because you "make" cyberfaces that's why we should praise you and not this kind of stuff lol.

PS. Of course you will reply to this because you can't accept criticisms and will always defend yourself thinking that you are always right. Can't wait to hear your explanations

You’ve got to be a troll right? Or like don’t understand the basis of my argument? I already told you why I’m not intimidated and you didn’t respond to a single thing. I responded to your criticism, don’t just clap back with the same thing as before.

I’d also like to clarify for the record, I don’t make faces. I’ve made like 3 faces ever. I’ve done a few conversions but this isn’t about me or my content. If I don’t release another project, I’m fine.

This is about not getting conversions confused for creations. You two blew off the handle over what was a simple correction that I think avoids future confusion. I never slandered OP. You both read something into this that wasn’t there. I get you want more content so you feel like you need to defend OP but there was never anything malicious.

Nice work man!! i would like to request for Dame Lillard and Blake Griffin conversions, if it'd be ok.. thanks for your efforts, more power!!

Blake Griffin

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Damian Lillard
(2K21 didn't change Lillard's headshape so I just use 2k20's model)

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Yessir! Many thanks for this, man! Much appreciated

Your conversions are appreciated, but if we agreed that you were going to do the some rookies and missing players, I don't understand why you are doing other players. You are definitely stepping on my work because I am spending time on other nba players.
If I helped you make your conversions work correctly it was to optimize the work and organize ourselves.

OK I understand I'll keep working on my list,

Your conversions are appreciated, but if we agreed that you were going to do the some rookies and missing players, I don't understand why you are doing other players. You are definitely stepping on my work because I am spending time on other nba players.
If I helped you make your conversions work correctly it was to optimize the work and organize ourselves.

OK I understand I'll keep working on my list,

Jaychung3013,

Out of curiosity are you working on 2 way players only or just players in general?

Your conversions are appreciated, but if we agreed that you were going to do the some rookies and missing players, I don't understand why you are doing other players. You are definitely stepping on my work because I am spending time on other nba players.
If I helped you make your conversions work correctly it was to optimize the work and organize ourselves.

OK I understand I'll keep working on my list,

As long as you let me know and we are in contact about which players you are doing, there is no problem.

Your conversions are appreciated, but if we agreed that you were going to do the some rookies and missing players, I don't understand why you are doing other players. You are definitely stepping on my work because I am spending time on other nba players.
If I helped you make your conversions work correctly it was to optimize the work and organize ourselves.

OK I understand I'll keep working on my list,

As long as you let me know and we are in contact about which players you are doing, there is no problem.

here is my list:
-Wenyen Gabriel
-Garrison Mathews
-Louis King
-Daryl Macon
-Anzejs Pasecniks
-B.J. Johnson
-Kenny Wooten
-Michael Frazier
-Norvel Pelle
-Luguentz Dort
-Chris Silva
-Michael Carter willams
-Bismack Biyombo
-Thon Maker
-Dejonte Murry
IF I add new player in my list I'll let you know.

Your conversions are appreciated, but if we agreed that you were going to do the some rookies and missing players, I don't understand why you are doing other players. You are definitely stepping on my work because I am spending time on other nba players.
If I helped you make your conversions work correctly it was to optimize the work and organize ourselves.

OK I understand I'll keep working on my list,

As long as you let me know and we are in contact about which players you are doing, there is no problem.

here is my list:
-Wenyen Gabriel
-Garrison Mathews
-Louis King
-Daryl Macon
-Anzejs Pasecniks
-B.J. Johnson
-Kenny Wooten
-Michael Frazier
-Norvel Pelle
-Luguentz Dort
-Chris Silva
-Michael Carter willams
-Bismack Biyombo
-Thon Maker
-Dejonte Murry
IF I add new player in my list I'll let you know.

Cool!