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The State Of Modding

Postby sitew33 on Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:35 pm

I just wanted to make a post just to speak on how great it is the way that the modding community is progressing. So much progress and strides have been made just alone from 2K19 to 2K20. Game modifying modders have created a bunch of incredible tools that have taken the game to a whole new level. Player modders have expanded their skills and are providing better and better player models every damn day. Jersey and floor/stadium modders are creating and improving item and making new designs. Modders have learned how to manipulate shoe/accessories sizes, shoe designs, shoe patterns, etc. But the best part is an influx of new members who have come in and have hit the ground running and have added to the overall quality of the modding community. Everyone is bouncing thoughts, ideas, advice, tutorials, etc off of one another and I believe its a great time for modding. Hey the NBA 2k modding community may not be perfect but it's pretty f*ckin aesome if you ask me. Thank you to everyone in the modding community no matter how great or how small. All of you guys rock!!! :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:
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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby Doctor Kicks on Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:45 pm

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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby maumau78 on Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:49 pm

Totally agree 100% :applaud: to the community
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Re: The State Of Modding

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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby [Q] on Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:28 am

May I ask what is now possible that maybe wasn't a few years ago?
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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby sticky-fingers on Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:46 am

Put ads and paywall everywhere.

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More seriously, the tools (hook, limnono), the knowledge of how the games of this gen work, the templates etc...
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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby CosignDaDon on Wed Apr 29, 2020 3:59 am

Its amazing...

Then also the people that are able to communicate to ppl coming from consoles..tutorial videos...amazing work all!
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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby PettyPaulPierce on Wed Apr 29, 2020 6:54 am

Wonderful post! I'd like to personally thank all tool creators because without tools such as auto shrinkwrap, limnono, the file extractor and many others none of this would be possible. Also a big thank you to TGsoGood for all of his youtube tutorials, they made it easy for beginners like me to create player models!
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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby kidhybrid89 on Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:00 am

PettyPaulPierce wrote:Wonderful post! I'd like to personally thank all tool creators because without tools such as auto shrinkwrap, limnono, the file extractor and many others none of this would be possible. Also a big thank you to TGsoGood for all of his youtube tutorials, they made it easy for beginners like me to create player models!


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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby TGsoGood on Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:54 am

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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby therealgrimmie on Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:58 am

Thanks to all modders! :bowdown2:
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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby Murat on Fri May 01, 2020 6:28 am

[Q] wrote:May I ask what is now possible that maybe wasn't a few years ago?

These people might haven't seen mid-2000's NLSC. Anyway, there really is a great atmosphere in this section this year.
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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby sitew33 on Fri May 01, 2020 11:47 pm

Murat wrote:
[Q] wrote:May I ask what is now possible that maybe wasn't a few years ago?

These people might haven't seen mid-2000's NLSC. Anyway, there really is a great atmosphere in this section this year.


Yeah you guys are the OG's so I'm sure yall have seen or have been able to do all these things prior. Looyh has the hook that does makes things available that weren't in the last 3 maybe years. There's a sync.bin explorer that allows you to pull anything from the sync.bin just by merely searching for it. We can now easily transfer players from past games into this game. Maybe you guys had all that stuff in prior days (mid 2000's) but we couldn't do them in recent years.
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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby Murat on Sat May 02, 2020 2:06 am

sitew33 wrote:
Murat wrote:
[Q] wrote:May I ask what is now possible that maybe wasn't a few years ago?

These people might haven't seen mid-2000's NLSC. Anyway, there really is a great atmosphere in this section this year.


Yeah you guys are the OG's so I'm sure yall have seen or have been able to do all these things prior. Looyh has the hook that does makes things available that weren't in the last 3 maybe years. There's a sync.bin explorer that allows you to pull anything from the sync.bin just by merely searching for it. We can now easily transfer players from past games into this game. Maybe you guys had all that stuff in prior days (mid 2000's) but we couldn't do them in recent years.


Considering 2K is not mod-friendly as NBA Live was, you may be right. Also, my bad, I failed to read what Q actually meant, I have a serious comprehension problem.
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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby Simonn-Lee on Sat May 02, 2020 6:09 am

[Q] wrote:May I ask what is now possible that maybe wasn't a few years ago?


U mean the modding? A lot but the most important things probably are Cheat Table and 2K Hook...
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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby bluejaybrandon on Sat May 02, 2020 6:22 am

Simonn-Lee wrote:
[Q] wrote:May I ask what is now possible that maybe wasn't a few years ago?


U mean the modding? A lot but the most important things probably are Cheat Table and 2K Hook...


Last-gen 2k had the abilities of the hook program and cheat engine. UBR has hundreds of faces added beyond those with IDs in-game. It also had team names, colors, etc edited. Have people really not looked into UBR or have forgotten? That is like the pinnacle of modding. I remember being dumbfounded when I came upon the fact there was a team comprised of “the best that never was”. They had Benji Wilson and Len Bias modeled and everything. I don’t know if modding will ever reach those levels again, but hopefully.
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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby sitew33 on Sat May 02, 2020 6:34 am

bluejaybrandon wrote:
Simonn-Lee wrote:
[Q] wrote:May I ask what is now possible that maybe wasn't a few years ago?


U mean the modding? A lot but the most important things probably are Cheat Table and 2K Hook...


Last-gen 2k had the abilities of the hook program and cheat engine. UBR has hundreds of faces added beyond those with IDs in-game. It also had team names, colors, etc edited. Have people really not looked into UBR or have forgotten? That is like the pinnacle of modding. I remember being dumbfounded when I came upon the fact there was a team comprised of “the best that never was”. They had Benji Wilson and Len Bias modeled and everything. I don’t know if modding will ever reach those levels again, but hopefully.


Damn that's crazy all the stuff that could be done on Last Gen
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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby johnwest1985 on Sat May 02, 2020 6:38 am

i miss the fact that one could easily have a save folder with like hundreds of rosters and draft classes. Using UBR and URB was just amazing. I think modding was easier back then. I do think with hook we have made a lot of big steps though.
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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby ShadyMikeGaming on Sat May 02, 2020 8:22 am

Join the movement! Join the official 2K Modding discord! This joint is jumping right now!

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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby Simonn-Lee on Sat May 02, 2020 8:41 am

bluejaybrandon wrote:
Simonn-Lee wrote:
[Q] wrote:May I ask what is now possible that maybe wasn't a few years ago?


U mean the modding? A lot but the most important things probably are Cheat Table and 2K Hook...


Last-gen 2k had the abilities of the hook program and cheat engine. UBR has hundreds of faces added beyond those with IDs in-game. It also had team names, colors, etc edited. Have people really not looked into UBR or have forgotten? That is like the pinnacle of modding. I remember being dumbfounded when I came upon the fact there was a team comprised of “the best that never was”. They had Benji Wilson and Len Bias modeled and everything. I don’t know if modding will ever reach those levels again, but hopefully.


Well said, last gen modding can go crazy!
I thought he wanna compare 20's modding to 15~19's
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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby bluejaybrandon on Sat May 02, 2020 9:25 am

Simonn-Lee wrote:
bluejaybrandon wrote:
Simonn-Lee wrote:
[Q] wrote:May I ask what is now possible that maybe wasn't a few years ago?


U mean the modding? A lot but the most important things probably are Cheat Table and 2K Hook...


Last-gen 2k had the abilities of the hook program and cheat engine. UBR has hundreds of faces added beyond those with IDs in-game. It also had team names, colors, etc edited. Have people really not looked into UBR or have forgotten? That is like the pinnacle of modding. I remember being dumbfounded when I came upon the fact there was a team comprised of “the best that never was”. They had Benji Wilson and Len Bias modeled and everything. I don’t know if modding will ever reach those levels again, but hopefully.


Well said, last gen modding can go crazy!
I thought he wanna compare 20's modding to 15~19's


Oh, yeah that is totally fair then. Hook has completely revolutionized 2k20 and brought it as close to UBR capabilities as we've had on "next-gen".
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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby noname1 on Sat May 02, 2020 9:44 am

I want to give my 2 cents on this without further reply to anyone.
I belive as a forum member I can bring my opinion and I'm not insulting anyone with it!

I really appreciate modding improvements we got this and previous years. My highest appreciation to anyone who's contributing and dedicating his time in order to improve what we all consider a hobby, and some of us here even more than that and their contribution is beyond regular :applaud:

However, what I don't like and what I remember is that we're constantly loosing modders and projects from here, leaving this forum cos they are offended by others... I can't forgot SeanBarkley and his Kicksology, one massive project we all enjoying really much, and it's just an example... I don't know the reasons why Shuaj' withdrew his latest work on prospects, but I'm sure he didn't do that cos he changed his mind!

If everybody talks about community here, and I do consider this forum as a great place to be a part of, than let's act like a community - supporting each other on every single try, project! Respect others dedication and time to contribute to all of us. Someone will do more than others, skill levels are different, If you think it's not looking good enough for you pass it but support it with one post, try to help if you're skilled or just say a nice word and give a boost to those who are trying.

I'm not a dumb-ass kid, I'm a dumb-ass man with 30yo, so I belive I know what I'm talking about. And while I wrote this I got PM from Shuaj' confirming all my doubts that made me write this...
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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby bluejaybrandon on Sat May 02, 2020 10:01 am

MB22 wrote:I want to give my 2 cents on this without further reply to anyone.
I belive as a forum member I can bring my opinion and I'm not insulting anyone with it!

I really appreciate modding improvements we got this and previous years. My highest appreciation to anyone who's contributing and dedicating his time in order to improve what we all consider a hobby, and some of us here even more than that and their contribution is beyond regular :applaud:

However, what I don't like and what I remember is that we're constantly loosing modders and projects from here, leaving this forum cos they are offended by others... I can't forgot SeanBarkley and his Kicksology, one massive project we all enjoying really much, and it's just an example... I don't know the reasons why Shuaj' withdrew his latest work on prospects, but I'm sure he didn't do that cos he changed his mind!

If everybody talks about community here, and I do consider this forum as a great place to be a part of, than let's act like a community - supporting each other on every single try, project! Respect others dedication and time to contribute to all of us. Someone will do more than others, skill levels are different, If you think it's not looking good enough for you pass it but support it with one post, try to help if you're skilled or just say a nice word and give a boost to those who are trying.

I'm not a dumb-ass kid, I'm a dumb-ass man with 30yo, so I belive I know what I'm talking about. And while I wrote this I got PM from Shuaj' confirming all my doubts that made me write this...
Thanks for your attention!


Yes, but the community doesn't have to always be a safe space with happy thoughts. If all we did was just compliment and never critique there would be no progress. I think of guys like MonkeyMan where his first Shake Milton cyberface was rough around the edges. He got feedback from the forum and went through like 4 versions of it and by the time he was done, he had an amazing face. He used that new knowledge to create some of the best prospect faces. Mrk326 is the same way, its the grinding and getting feedback that keeps people improving. Seanbarkley left over a dispute about paid mods. Hell I donated to him because his content was great, but the process of putting content behind a paywall still broke rules.

R4zoR showed me so many techniques that I recorded that I still go back to because I was struggling with modding bad. I realize I'm not talented now even and if somebody says "hey i think this could be improved" I give it a shot. People shouldn't hear feedback and bounce. Part of modding is getting a strong backbone and taking your ego out of the work.
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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby PettyPaulPierce on Sat May 02, 2020 10:11 am

bluejaybrandon wrote:
MB22 wrote:I want to give my 2 cents on this without further reply to anyone.
I belive as a forum member I can bring my opinion and I'm not insulting anyone with it!

I really appreciate modding improvements we got this and previous years. My highest appreciation to anyone who's contributing and dedicating his time in order to improve what we all consider a hobby, and some of us here even more than that and their contribution is beyond regular :applaud:

However, what I don't like and what I remember is that we're constantly loosing modders and projects from here, leaving this forum cos they are offended by others... I can't forgot SeanBarkley and his Kicksology, one massive project we all enjoying really much, and it's just an example... I don't know the reasons why Shuaj' withdrew his latest work on prospects, but I'm sure he didn't do that cos he changed his mind!

If everybody talks about community here, and I do consider this forum as a great place to be a part of, than let's act like a community - supporting each other on every single try, project! Respect others dedication and time to contribute to all of us. Someone will do more than others, skill levels are different, If you think it's not looking good enough for you pass it but support it with one post, try to help if you're skilled or just say a nice word and give a boost to those who are trying.

I'm not a dumb-ass kid, I'm a dumb-ass man with 30yo, so I belive I know what I'm talking about. And while I wrote this I got PM from Shuaj' confirming all my doubts that made me write this...
Thanks for your attention!


Yes, but the community doesn't have to always be a safe space with happy thoughts. If all we did was just compliment and never critique there would be no progress. I think of guys like MonkeyMan where his first Shake Milton cyberface was rough around the edges. He got feedback from the forum and went through like 4 versions of it and by the time he was done, he had an amazing face. He used that new knowledge to create some of the best prospect faces. Mrk326 is the same way, its the grinding and getting feedback that keeps people improving. Seanbarkley left over a dispute about paid mods. Hell I donated to him because his content was great, but the process of putting content behind a paywall still broke rules.

R4zoR showed me so many techniques that I recorded that I still go back to. I realize I'm not talented and if somebody says "hey i think this could be improved" I give it a shot. People shouldn't hear feedback and bounce. Part of modding is getting a strong backbone and taking your ego out of the work.

For sure! I agree. We should take our egos out and therefor shouldn't have a problem when someone else releases something we are working on.
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Re: The State Of Modding

Postby bluejaybrandon on Sat May 02, 2020 10:17 am

PettyPaulPierce wrote:
bluejaybrandon wrote:
MB22 wrote:I want to give my 2 cents on this without further reply to anyone.
I belive as a forum member I can bring my opinion and I'm not insulting anyone with it!

I really appreciate modding improvements we got this and previous years. My highest appreciation to anyone who's contributing and dedicating his time in order to improve what we all consider a hobby, and some of us here even more than that and their contribution is beyond regular :applaud:

However, what I don't like and what I remember is that we're constantly loosing modders and projects from here, leaving this forum cos they are offended by others... I can't forgot SeanBarkley and his Kicksology, one massive project we all enjoying really much, and it's just an example... I don't know the reasons why Shuaj' withdrew his latest work on prospects, but I'm sure he didn't do that cos he changed his mind!

If everybody talks about community here, and I do consider this forum as a great place to be a part of, than let's act like a community - supporting each other on every single try, project! Respect others dedication and time to contribute to all of us. Someone will do more than others, skill levels are different, If you think it's not looking good enough for you pass it but support it with one post, try to help if you're skilled or just say a nice word and give a boost to those who are trying.

I'm not a dumb-ass kid, I'm a dumb-ass man with 30yo, so I belive I know what I'm talking about. And while I wrote this I got PM from Shuaj' confirming all my doubts that made me write this...
Thanks for your attention!


Yes, but the community doesn't have to always be a safe space with happy thoughts. If all we did was just compliment and never critique there would be no progress. I think of guys like MonkeyMan where his first Shake Milton cyberface was rough around the edges. He got feedback from the forum and went through like 4 versions of it and by the time he was done, he had an amazing face. He used that new knowledge to create some of the best prospect faces. Mrk326 is the same way, its the grinding and getting feedback that keeps people improving. Seanbarkley left over a dispute about paid mods. Hell I donated to him because his content was great, but the process of putting content behind a paywall still broke rules.

R4zoR showed me so many techniques that I recorded that I still go back to. I realize I'm not talented and if somebody says "hey i think this could be improved" I give it a shot. People shouldn't hear feedback and bounce. Part of modding is getting a strong backbone and taking your ego out of the work.

For sure! I agree. We should take our egos out and therefor shouldn't have a problem when someone else releases something we are working on.


I have no problem with him doing a draft class. More prospect faces makes my life easier. I just want to see it done right because previous years has been lots of promise but not much follow through.

If you think I have ego about 2k, you're very mistaken. Just like you mentioned, I make these to use in my own MyLeague. I can pack up the thread and not lose sleep because my college buddies and I will still be drafting the 2k20 draft class in our yearly MyLeague. I don't have a YouTube I'm promoting, I don't have a twitter I'm pimping. I'm very happy with my job and don't need to get 2k's attention, I mod on the side.
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