bluejaybrandon- Real 2019 Draft Released!

[BlazerGun1]

guess we'll wait to 2k20, good job tho, like your modes.

[bluejaybrandon]

I'm sure many people are disappointed to see that your draft class went from prospectively being released on draft night, to possibly not coming out before nba2k20. I understand that this is a your mod, that is to be completed at your discretion and to your liking. There's nothing wrong with that and absolutely nothing to debate about it. But I think it's a bit unfortunate for the other contributors - being that their work can't be released until the project drops (which is why many are happy Monkey has released a fair amount of his draftees separate). Obviously, they don't mind but it would also be great if they released their faces otherwise, in order for those who have been long anticipating getting to utilize it before (for many of us) the release of 2k20 makes it less impactful.

Please don't receive this the wrong way - it's no slight at all. The community owes you a great debt for your contributions this year and previous years. Your attention to detail makes for a rather thorough simulation.

For those that can't wait...there have been well over a third of the draft class cyberfaces released otherwise. And I have made profile photos for all 60 draftees, along with 20 or so undrafted free agents photos. If someone wanted to take the time to assign them, I can zip them up and send them your way.

Thanks for the update Brandon!

So here’s the deal. I’ll be transparent so as to clear some stuff up. Monkeyman approached me about releasing those faces and I told him I had no problem with it. They’re his creations. But some of the other faces that you’ve seen have been either my own creation or creations I have donated for. This project literally costs me a decent amount of money to make each year. But I do it because I personally use it. I’ve said that in the past, but I don’t create this project to satisfy others. I share it because others seem to be interested. That’s why I don’t necessarily feel an obligation to hit arbitrary deadlines. I don’t commit to a time. It’s “maybe draft night” or “perhaps a few more weeks”.

If it’s less impactful because 2k20 came out than so be it. I’m not looking to make a splash. I’m not in it for clicks, or ad revenue, or views. I have no interest in turning this into a career or be noticed by 2k. I do this as a passion project because some buddies and I sit around and play 2k on weekends.

That being said, my draft class was taken last year and dropped into a 2k roster and somebody called it their own “project” with no mention of me. That was kinda off-putting, so I decided I’d release a full project this year and walk away. I was disappointed with missing player after I thought I had them all covered. I took it personally that I was missing prospects. Would people be satisfied with a “complete enough” release? Sure. But I wouldn’t be, so the project moves forward.

I don’t mean to act arrogant or be argumentative at all. These are just the facts. Sorry for the rant but I just wanted to provide my prospective. If anyone reads through this block of text, more power to ya. Thanks to NLSC for the good years.

[cardo]

Cool, man - enough said. Thanks for your efforts and for spending money to complete and ultimately share your project. No stress at all.

[RobertK66]

I have been coming here for years never made a user name until today only because i am not really a talker and it seems the world is full of people who reply with cancerious remarks and i am not into flame wars or acts of violence so I will say you have done a amazing job in making the game have great replay ability and thank you for that based on your last years release and all the others who have created cyberfaces and to cordinate the work of others into a project is time consuming, but lets thank really the creators of the game who made the game so you could put your work into it and be creative they could have gone the E.A route and made it very difficult or impossible to add any content but it seems the trend these days is everyone wants a donation or patron or there held hostage thats a turn off to me.

I too was expecting you to release on draft day but it is your work and you have the right to do what you want i have seen others attack people about there work or not getting credit for adding there work to a project or they feel there stealing it has become a joke how people get nobody should expect money for the work they do, as that would violate the game makers intentions if people want to get paid for it get a job working for those companies and stop flooding these sites with B.S.

[bluejaybrandon]

I have been coming here for years never made a user name until today only because i am not really a talker and it seems the world is full of people who reply with cancerious remarks and i am not into flame wars or acts of violence so I will say you have done a amazing job in making the game have great replay ability and thank you for that based on your last years release and all the others who have created cyberfaces and to cordinate the work of others into a project is time consuming, but lets thank really the creators of the game who made the game so you could put your work into it and be creative they could have gone the E.A route and made it very difficult or impossible to add any content but it seems the trend these days is everyone wants a donation or patron or there held hostage thats a turn off to me.

I too was expecting you to release on draft day but it is your work and you have the right to do what you want i have seen others attack people about there work or not getting credit for adding there work to a project or they feel there stealing it has become a joke how people get nobody should expect money for the work they do, as that would violate the game makers intentions if people want to get paid for it get a job working for those companies and stop flooding these sites with B.S.

Welcome to the forum man! Glad you made a profile! Yeah the modding community has grown from modding for the love of the game to a system heavily predicated on profits, just in the little time I’ve been around. Most people here have YouTube videos that they’re looking for views to support the ad revenue they generate. Or they add ad-links to mods. I don’t understand it to be honest. They’re making like next to nothing. However, that’s their prerogative. People do this for all kinds of reasons and who’s to say which is the right one. I just know I miss the days of modding to be proud of the product instead of a popularity contest of retweets and views.

[RobertK66]

Thank you
When and If you release could you please make sure you add or put in free agency Tacko Fall , i think he is part of your project but not sure.

[PettyPaulPierce]

I'm sure many people are disappointed to see that your draft class went from prospectively being released on draft night, to possibly not coming out before nba2k20. I understand that this is a your mod, that is to be completed at your discretion and to your liking. There's nothing wrong with that and absolutely nothing to debate about it. But I think it's a bit unfortunate for the other contributors - being that their work can't be released until the project drops (which is why many are happy Monkey has released a fair amount of his draftees separate). Obviously, they don't mind but it would also be great if they released their faces otherwise, in order for those who have been long anticipating getting to utilize it before (for many of us) the release of 2k20 makes it less impactful.

Please don't receive this the wrong way - it's no slight at all. The community owes you a great debt for your contributions this year and previous years. Your attention to detail makes for a rather thorough simulation.

For those that can't wait...there have been well over a third of the draft class cyberfaces released otherwise. And I have made profile photos for all 60 draftees, along with 20 or so undrafted free agents photos. If someone wanted to take the time to assign them, I can zip them up and send them your way.

Thanks for the update Brandon!

While this is an unfortunate turn of events, between monkeyman's mods, and various chinese mods released on some facebook pages, it is possible to have almost the entire first round of prospects, and the second rounders rarely make it into the league anyway.

[bluejaybrandon]

I'm sure many people are disappointed to see that your draft class went from prospectively being released on draft night, to possibly not coming out before nba2k20. I understand that this is a your mod, that is to be completed at your discretion and to your liking. There's nothing wrong with that and absolutely nothing to debate about it. But I think it's a bit unfortunate for the other contributors - being that their work can't be released until the project drops (which is why many are happy Monkey has released a fair amount of his draftees separate). Obviously, they don't mind but it would also be great if they released their faces otherwise, in order for those who have been long anticipating getting to utilize it before (for many of us) the release of 2k20 makes it less impactful.

Please don't receive this the wrong way - it's no slight at all. The community owes you a great debt for your contributions this year and previous years. Your attention to detail makes for a rather thorough simulation.

For those that can't wait...there have been well over a third of the draft class cyberfaces released otherwise. And I have made profile photos for all 60 draftees, along with 20 or so undrafted free agents photos. If someone wanted to take the time to assign them, I can zip them up and send them your way.

Thanks for the update Brandon!

While this is an unfortunate turn of events, between monkeyman's mods, and various chinese mods released on some facebook pages, it is possible to have almost the entire first round of prospects, and the second rounders rarely make it into the league anyway.

There ya go! See basically all the relevant faces have been released already. This would just be redundant at this point. That’s a good way to look at it.

[bluejaybrandon]

Sixers Rookies


Matisse Thybulle




Hawks Rookies


Deandre Hunter



Cam Reddish




Hornets Rookies


P.J. Washington



Cody Martin




Pacers Rookies


Goga Bitadze




Suns Rookies


Cameron Johnson



Ty Jerome

[Gideon Prime]

WOW Great Stuff

[ilja23mia]

really sad to see such a great work wont be released but its your choice bro keep it up!

if someone needs those mods from bbs.eyeuc.com pm me i got them

[bluejaybrandon]

really sad to see such a great work wont be released but its your choice bro keep it up!

if someone needs those mods from bbs.eyeuc.com pm me i got them

Why is it sad? You literally just said you have the rookies from the Chinese site...

[ilja23mia]

really sad to see such a great work wont be released but its your choice bro keep it up!

if someone needs those mods from bbs.eyeuc.com pm me i got them

Why is it sad? You literally just said you have the rookies from the Chinese site...

sorry i mean the rest of your rookie class-- i only have the rest 4 players from young1996

[Multi]

really sad to see such a great work wont be released but its your choice bro keep it up!

if someone needs those mods from bbs.eyeuc.com pm me i got them

Why is it sad? You literally just said you have the rookies from the Chinese site...

It's sad cause some of us were really looking forward to your work as I was and don't really wanna be going to many different sources downloading bits and pieces. Of course though we do respect your decision as it is your project and you put a lot of time and money into it. You will have to understand though that although you don't have any obligation to share your project there are still gonna be people disappointed or upset that they're not able to use your project until sometime near the release of 2k20 making it sort of irrelevant if they were opting into buying the new game when it releases. Again though I will emphasize that we as a community understand and respect your decision to delay the release because of what you've created and provided for the community, but you as a creator have to understand there will still be people including myself who are saddened by your decision.

Thanks for what you do!

[iuguernsey]

really sad to see such a great work wont be released but its your choice bro keep it up!

if someone needs those mods from bbs.eyeuc.com pm me i got them

Why is it sad? You literally just said you have the rookies from the Chinese site...

It's sad cause some of us were really looking forward to your work as I was and don't really wanna be going to many different sources downloading bits and pieces. Of course though we do respect your decision as it is your project and you put a lot of time and money into it. You will have to understand though that although you don't have any obligation to share your project there are still gonna be people disappointed or upset that they're not able to use your project until sometime near the release of 2k20 making it sort of irrelevant if they were opting into buying the new game when it releases. Again though I will emphasize that we as a community understand and respect your decision to delay the release because of what you've created and provided for the community, but you as a creator have to understand there will still be people including myself who are saddened by your decision.

Thanks for what you do!

I rarely actually post--but I agree with the above.

I love your stuff as a whole bluejaybrandon. Your class, I think two years ago, is what convinced me to make the jump to PC. The faces I can get elsewhere are great, but I enjoy your classes for the entire project not just the faces that are included. The players are always right on or very close to how they play. Which is something important to me as someone who is big on realism and watch both college and NBA.

[Louieboy36]

Blue you do this every year. You argue across the forums about other modders work not being completed or their faces not being up to your standard,yet you never
seem to finish your own work. It's like you never have any intention to release. You say its because its not to your standard but I think you get off on people wanting it and you being in control.

I've seen you criticize Shuajota year after year about his roster projects, saying they're incomplete or the faces aren't that much better than original. Just like above, you got mad at ilja23mia simply
because he said he'd just use the Chinese mods since you won't release yours. So you don't wanna release yours, but you don't want ppl using Chinese mods? You just want ppl
to gloat and beg for your product.

Yes, you're a great modder but honestly I don't feel like your work is worth the trouble. I'm not saying this cause I want your work
but you always seem to call ppl out on their BS now you need to be called out on yours. Again you're talented but I think you need
to take a look in the mirror, cause you're becoming the modder you so called hated.

Peace.

[danielov120]

can we at least get the draft class with out the faces?

[Aston]

can we at least get the draft class with out the faces?

i hope so

[bluejaybrandon]

Blue you do this every year. You argue across the forums about other modders work not being completed or their faces not being up to your standard,yet you never
seem to finish your own work. It's like you never have any intention to release. You say its because its not to your standard but I think you get off on people wanting it and you being in control.

I've seen you criticize Shuajota year after year about his roster projects, saying they're incomplete or the faces aren't that much better than original. Just like above, you got mad at ilja23mia simply
because he said he'd just use the Chinese mods since you won't release yours. So you don't wanna release yours, but you don't want ppl using Chinese mods? You just want ppl
to gloat and beg for your product.

Yes, you're a great modder but honestly I don't feel like your work is worth the trouble. I'm not saying this cause I want your work
but you always seem to call ppl out on their BS now you need to be called out on yours. Again you're talented but I think you need
to take a look in the mirror, cause you're becoming the modder you so called hated.

Peace.

So let’s got through this...

1. I don’t complete my work.

Where is the basis of this claim? I released both a 2017 and 2018 class. This is the first draft class I haven’t gotten out before the draft. I’ve pushed draft class projects back because they weren’t complete but they’ve never been cancelled.

2. I criticize others for not completing their work.

So first of all, my critique is always that there are multiple massive projects being worked on simultaneously by only one person. These projects are often so big that a team should take on just one. You’re literally contradicting yourself. I’m not releasing it FOR THE SAME REASONS I’VE CRITICIZED OTHERS. I do not want my project to be incomplete. I don’t want a half-assed project. I said it would be the 2019 draft class and I’m trying like hell to make sure the last 12 guys are included so that it’s complete. Why would I go 95% of the way to complete and then just say it’s good enough.

3. Other comments.

I didn’t get mad at anyone for using the Chinese faces. Hell, some are in my draft class. My statement is that I don’t feel a rush to release this because there are faces out there for people. Monkeyman released his and the Chinese sites are better than the average ass faces I made. That was my comment so I’m not sure where you’re reading into this.

I don’t know if you didn’t read my earlier post but I don’t want anyone to beg for my work. I do this as a side project. I don’t hype it up to get followers or views or likes. I make this each year to use myself and have shared it each year because people seem interested. I highly suggest you go read the earlier post because this isn’t some power trip. If it was a power trip, I wouldn’t be trying to explain the process to others, I’d keep the secrets of how to like so many others do.

And on a final note, im totally fine if you “don’t think my stuff is worth the trouble”. Im honestly not even a modder. I make very average faces in comparison to some of the greats here. I curate a draft project where guys triple my ability create the majority of the faces. That’s why I always try to stress that people donate to them. You’ll notice I never have donation links...I donate to these guys to have them make the faces because so few people actually support them. I think they should often be recognized more than a “nice job” or “release!”. I’m not trying to have a holier than thou attitude, it’s just the unfortunate nature of the beast with modding.

Again to anyone who read through this second chapter, thanks.

[orangejoshh]

Looking forward for this release, man! Great CFs or not, it is the ratings and other stuff what I loved in your work. More power to you, Sir! Thank you

[sitew33]

I wasn't going to even get involved in this but I'm going to humbly add my 2 cents. Bluejay within this project you have contradicted yourself in how you portrayed this project. You advertised or if not gave every indication of this being a project that you were creating to release to the community even asking other modders to jump on the project. You consistently answered member's questions about the release until ultimately giving a tentative release date of draft night. When draft night came and you realized that there were unforeseen rookies drafted you told members that the date would be pushed back saying maybe some other modders could aid you in creating a list of the newest draft picks that weren't done. Everyone understood but then you stated that you weren't getting 2K20 so the timeline didn't matter to you anyway an you would just take your time. From there it went to you only really did the draft class for your own personal use and only intended on releasing it if people showed interest (Which is a little crazy because your draft class may be one of the most anticipated projects in NBA2K modding so I believe that you know people have interest). Now it is at the point of you saying that you may not release it at all. It just seems like a totally contradictory situation because if you had originally advertised this a something for yourself that you were just showing the community then there probably wouldn't be all of the angst about it. Like you said this is your project for your personal use that you spent your own money on so you have every right to do what you wish with it but please try to understand things from the prospective of community members who were under the impression that this would be released to the community. If in fact you never release the class I can say it will be the community's loss no doubt. Have a good one.

[bluejaybrandon]

I wasn't going to even get involved in this but I'm going to humbly add my 2 cents. Bluejay within this project you have contradicted yourself in how you portrayed this project. You advertised or if not gave every indication of this being a project that you were creating to release to the community even asking other modders to jump on the project. You consistently answered member's questions about the release until ultimately giving a tentative release date of draft night. When draft night came and you realized that there were unforeseen rookies drafted you told members that the date would be pushed back saying maybe some other modders could aid you in creating a list of the newest draft picks that weren't done. Everyone understood but then you stated that you weren't getting 2K20 so the timeline didn't matter to you anyway an you would just take your time. From there it went to you only really did the draft class for your own personal use and only intended on releasing it if people showed interest (Which is a little crazy because your draft class may be one of the most anticipated projects in NBA2K modding so I believe that you know people have interest). Now it is at the point of you saying that you may not release it at all. It just seems like a totally contradictory situation because if you had originally advertised this a something for yourself that you were just showing the community then there probably wouldn't be all of the angst about it. Like you said this is your project for your personal use that you spent your own money on so you have every right to do what you wish with it but please try to understand things from the prospective of community members who were under the impression that this would be released to the community. If in fact you never release the class I can say it will be the community's loss no doubt. Have a good one.

When did I ever say it was not going to get released? I said my MOTIVATION for doing it is personal, in that I make it every year for me and my buddies to play with untill the next 2k releases. I never said I'm keeing it for myself. I'm in fact message many creators, here and elsewhere, who would be willing to work on cyberfaces so I can get this project released. My statement regarding 2k20 just means that, as before, I'm not scrambling to get this out this weekend or anything. If it takes till 2k20 release, it'll be released. I'm not going to have people pressuring me to release an incomplete project because they will have moved on to the latest iteration of the game.

I have never once said that I would only release it if people showed interest. I said that, originally back in the day, I made this project for my own use and then released it because people were interested in it. That's the same this year. I make it because I want to use it, but I release it because people seem to want it too. Nothing has changed. I'm working to get it to 100% accuracy and will release it when it is.

[danielov120]

can we at least get the draft class with out the faces?

?

[DrBurke]

I know you're going to release it so I'm not even worried, we just all love your work bro and we're just hyped that's all. Shit, I've been counting down since January, trust me it's a compliment.

[sitew33]

When did I ever say it was not going to get released? I said my MOTIVATION for doing it is personal, in that I make it every year for me and my buddies to play with untill the next 2k releases. I never said I'm keeping it for myself. I'm in fact message many creators, here and elsewhere, who would be willing to work on cyberfaces so I can get this project released. My statement regarding 2k20 just means that, as before, I'm not scrambling to get this out this weekend or anything. If it takes till 2k20 release, it'll be released. I'm not going to have people pressuring me to release an incomplete project because they will have moved on to the latest iteration of the game.

I have never once said that I would only release it if people showed interest. I said that, originally back in the day, I made this project for my own use and then released it because people were interested in it. That's the same this year. I make it because I want to use it, but I release it because people seem to want it too. Nothing has changed. I'm working to get it to 100% accuracy and will release it when it is.

You didn't definitively say you wouldn't release but that seemed to be the tenor but in all fairness that could have been in response to those telling members that they could just get rookie mods from other sites so I apologize for saying you may not release. My point is that if you put out this above description of your draft class at its inception then members would have a better understanding of the project and it's release. My post was just to give a view from the other side when some express their disappointment.

As a side note, I don't have any issues with your timetable because I myself know that you take pride in making sure the project is 100% complete and to your satisfaction.