Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:45 am
Dee4Three wrote:TheGame8544 wrote:Dee4Three wrote:TheGame8544 wrote:And I'm actually confused now. I'm not sure if Han and Viper Roster are the same modder. What I've got is from a Chinese poster that goes by the name of Han. I could have sworn I read somewhere he said something about Han and the Viper team but now when I look for it, I can't find it.
Regardless, it's by far the best roster available, and I don't see us needing much else. It can be improved by this community, but man it is awesome.
I have a few things to mention about Han Roster, and this is in NO WAY taking away from his work, its an awesome roster.
1. He overwrote portraits that I used for my All Time Teams Roster and Draft Roster. For example, he used the Clippers Shaun Livingston portrait for another player. meaning that if you are using my All Time Teams roster, and place his files in your modded folder, Shaun Livingston will no longer have the correct portrait. So his roster will conflict somewhat with my rosters, so just a heads up.
2. His roster cannot be used in myleague completely. The classic teams that he has in there do not have all teams at 13 guys. For example, if you try to start a Myleague with any team under 13 guys (99-00 Raptors, 64-65 Celtics, 85-86 Hawks etc etc), in Myleague those teams will be assigned random players at the start of the season in order to get them to 13, This is the same as the college teams in the roster. This is what I was getting around with my roster, until is stalled because of a lack of a roster editor. His roster is really good for Play Now if you don't care about those teams missing players.
Again, NOT AN INSULT TO HIS WORK. His work is awesome, just giving you a heads up on a few things.
Thanks,
Correct me if I'm wrong, as I'm just now messing around with this as of last night and this morning, but his roster will still let you play a perfectly acceptable standard MyLeague. So I can use all the current teams and do a current MyLeague.
The problem you are referencing could be fixed as all his created teams have 13 players. So all we would need to do is create players to fill in the other classic teams, get them their cyberfaces/have someone in the community create them, and boom problem solved. Unless I'm missing something.
No insult to you or other roster modders around here, but what this guy did is far and away better than anything I was able to find. These Chinese modders are crazy with what they are able to accomplish so early in the process. I see no reason this can't be a base roster for everyone to work on. After all, he accomplished what you were trying to do with overwriting Euro teams with classic teams. It's a hell of an accomplishment. Add in the accurate jerseys, courts, cyberfaces, etc. and I'm blown away.
My all time teams roster and draft roster was out there in November. The all time teams roster has 100% accurate portraits of the players with the team they are on, accurate ages, accurate faces, everything 100% accurate. It took everything I had to get that out as early as I did. It is not by far better than other works including mine. It depends on mod preference as well. I am standing up for myself here because od the "far and away better" comment. I put everything I had into my 2 rosters.
Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:46 am
Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:48 am
TheGame8544 wrote:Dee4Three wrote:TheGame8544 wrote:Dee4Three wrote:TheGame8544 wrote:And I'm actually confused now. I'm not sure if Han and Viper Roster are the same modder. What I've got is from a Chinese poster that goes by the name of Han. I could have sworn I read somewhere he said something about Han and the Viper team but now when I look for it, I can't find it.
Regardless, it's by far the best roster available, and I don't see us needing much else. It can be improved by this community, but man it is awesome.
I have a few things to mention about Han Roster, and this is in NO WAY taking away from his work, its an awesome roster.
1. He overwrote portraits that I used for my All Time Teams Roster and Draft Roster. For example, he used the Clippers Shaun Livingston portrait for another player. meaning that if you are using my All Time Teams roster, and place his files in your modded folder, Shaun Livingston will no longer have the correct portrait. So his roster will conflict somewhat with my rosters, so just a heads up.
2. His roster cannot be used in myleague completely. The classic teams that he has in there do not have all teams at 13 guys. For example, if you try to start a Myleague with any team under 13 guys (99-00 Raptors, 64-65 Celtics, 85-86 Hawks etc etc), in Myleague those teams will be assigned random players at the start of the season in order to get them to 13, This is the same as the college teams in the roster. This is what I was getting around with my roster, until is stalled because of a lack of a roster editor. His roster is really good for Play Now if you don't care about those teams missing players.
Again, NOT AN INSULT TO HIS WORK. His work is awesome, just giving you a heads up on a few things.
Thanks,
Correct me if I'm wrong, as I'm just now messing around with this as of last night and this morning, but his roster will still let you play a perfectly acceptable standard MyLeague. So I can use all the current teams and do a current MyLeague.
The problem you are referencing could be fixed as all his created teams have 13 players. So all we would need to do is create players to fill in the other classic teams, get them their cyberfaces/have someone in the community create them, and boom problem solved. Unless I'm missing something.
No insult to you or other roster modders around here, but what this guy did is far and away better than anything I was able to find. These Chinese modders are crazy with what they are able to accomplish so early in the process. I see no reason this can't be a base roster for everyone to work on. After all, he accomplished what you were trying to do with overwriting Euro teams with classic teams. It's a hell of an accomplishment. Add in the accurate jerseys, courts, cyberfaces, etc. and I'm blown away.
My all time teams roster and draft roster was out there in November. The all time teams roster has 100% accurate portraits of the players with the team they are on, accurate ages, accurate faces, everything 100% accurate. It took everything I had to get that out as early as I did. It is not by far better than other works including mine. It depends on mod preference as well. I am standing up for myself here because od the "far and away better" comment. I put everything I had into my 2 rosters.
My apologies man. I meant nothing offensive by it.
What I want are accurate teams, accurate coaches, available free agent coaches when current coaches inevitably get fired, and some extra Dream Team squads. This roster by Han has all of that.
Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:49 am
Dee4Three wrote:I have a great start for my UBR base, including all teams 100% filled out to 93-94 Rockets. In regards to the euro team overwrite, we still have to hex edit those teams to get them to 13 (Which means we still have to do it). Just keep that in mind.
I also have 7 new classic teams filled with accurate portraits and about 90% accurate faces.
His deal doesn't escape us having to hex edit, we still have to do it.
Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:52 am
TheGame8544 wrote:Dee4Three wrote:I have a great start for my UBR base, including all teams 100% filled out to 93-94 Rockets. In regards to the euro team overwrite, we still have to hex edit those teams to get them to 13 (Which means we still have to do it). Just keep that in mind.
I also have 7 new classic teams filled with accurate portraits and about 90% accurate faces.
His deal doesn't escape us having to hex edit, we still have to do it.
Just caught that his classic teams have 12 players. Interesting. I didn't take the time to count them as they looked filled out. So with that your correct.
Hopefully this is a good middle ground. For people that want to play a MyLeague with classic teams, your roster is the way to go. For people that want to play a MyLeague with current teams and have lots of classic teams to have a blast playing Play Now games, Han's roster is the way to go.
Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:03 am
Dee4Three wrote:TheGame8544 wrote:Dee4Three wrote:I have a great start for my UBR base, including all teams 100% filled out to 93-94 Rockets. In regards to the euro team overwrite, we still have to hex edit those teams to get them to 13 (Which means we still have to do it). Just keep that in mind.
I also have 7 new classic teams filled with accurate portraits and about 90% accurate faces.
His deal doesn't escape us having to hex edit, we still have to do it.
Just caught that his classic teams have 12 players. Interesting. I didn't take the time to count them as they looked filled out. So with that your correct.
Hopefully this is a good middle ground. For people that want to play a MyLeague with classic teams, your roster is the way to go. For people that want to play a MyLeague with current teams and have lots of classic teams to have a blast playing Play Now games, Han's roster is the way to go.
Totally agree. That's what I was getting at.
However, I am not saying this is not a good base to start with, I think its a really solid start. And if he worked with all of us, maybe we could turn it into something even more special. I have proven that Im willing to put the hours into helping out, I would love to have a roster that included a slew of new classic teams/default classic teams/college all time teams/current teams full and complete.
Anything I can do to help (this is to anyone), let me know. I can put in some time.
Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:44 am
Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:46 am
bekalo88 wrote:That is good roster but he remove some older classic teams like 71-72 Lakers,Atlanta Hawks 71,Cleveland 89,Chicago Bulls 93 ....
Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:07 am
Dee4Three wrote:bekalo88 wrote:That is good roster but he remove some older classic teams like 71-72 Lakers,Atlanta Hawks 71,Cleveland 89,Chicago Bulls 93 ....
He overwrote some of the classic teams to put his own in. The Cavs 89 team is important, same with 93 Bulls. Both of those teams are part of my classic teams myleagues (or associations from 2k13/14).
We need to find the common ground of not removing the current classic teams, adding in new classic teams, and keeping the current teams intact.
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TBM wrote:You can't.
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TGsoGood wrote:bigh0rt wrote:You guys have got me thinking about buying this game if it's highly moddable and fun to play.
I really need some of my 2k14 guys on 2k17. Big Hort, Sko, WithAuthority, slimm, and a few others. We really made the most of 2k14. Dee4three, TBM, and PeacemanNot have lead the new wave but we need all the NLSC's finest.
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Sat Feb 18, 2017 6:38 am
TGsoGood wrote:Not sure what to do... Honestly enjoyed modding 2k14 more then this game. Maybe because its not as easy to do rosters
Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:12 am
Dee4Three wrote:TGsoGood wrote:Not sure what to do... Honestly enjoyed modding 2k14 more then this game. Maybe because its not as easy to do rosters
You guys know how pumped I was when the game first came out, I was doing rosters like crazy. I released 2 rosters in the first 3 months that took hundreds of hours of work. But, I'm seriously frustrated with the game, the game is playing poorly to me and its ruining my motivation. Not only that, the lack of a true roster editor has hampered things.
2k has gotten cocky. I personally feel like the game needs a gameplay overhaul, because this engine doesn't work. The way players interact with eachother and the on court action doesn't make any sense. The speed of the players in certain animations is so unrealistic that no human could ever move in that way, nevermind an athlete. The defense is also broken completely.
I tweeted out to Mike Wang, main NBA 2k twitter, and Ronnie 2k but of course I get no response. The game doesn't have a realistic pace or flow at all to me anymore, and I think the tuning/patches certainly play a part.
I want to apologize to all of you with my lack of modding recently, I've just been really frustrated.. I'm not going to lie. One thing that bothers me, this product still sells at such a high level because it really is the only basketball title with in depth game modes, and its heavily advertised. I'm worried that not enough people will speak up about the glaring gameplay issues, and we will be stuck with the same engine next year. The game does not flow at all, the pace is flat out off. I am not enjoying any games I play.
Sorry again all for the lack of modding out of me.
Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:24 pm
Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:05 pm
TBM wrote:Dee4Three wrote:TGsoGood wrote:Not sure what to do... Honestly enjoyed modding 2k14 more then this game. Maybe because its not as easy to do rosters
You guys know how pumped I was when the game first came out, I was doing rosters like crazy. I released 2 rosters in the first 3 months that took hundreds of hours of work. But, I'm seriously frustrated with the game, the game is playing poorly to me and its ruining my motivation. Not only that, the lack of a true roster editor has hampered things.
2k has gotten cocky. I personally feel like the game needs a gameplay overhaul, because this engine doesn't work. The way players interact with eachother and the on court action doesn't make any sense. The speed of the players in certain animations is so unrealistic that no human could ever move in that way, nevermind an athlete. The defense is also broken completely.
I tweeted out to Mike Wang, main NBA 2k twitter, and Ronnie 2k but of course I get no response. The game doesn't have a realistic pace or flow at all to me anymore, and I think the tuning/patches certainly play a part.
I want to apologize to all of you with my lack of modding recently, I've just been really frustrated.. I'm not going to lie. One thing that bothers me, this product still sells at such a high level because it really is the only basketball title with in depth game modes, and its heavily advertised. I'm worried that not enough people will speak up about the glaring gameplay issues, and we will be stuck with the same engine next year. The game does not flow at all, the pace is flat out off. I am not enjoying any games I play.
Sorry again all for the lack of modding out of me.
Have you tried Shay's sliders?