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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:02 pm

Question for those with eyes on this thread.

Do you want me to release this roster with this background? The water moves, looks pretty cool. Or would you like me to just keep the background default?

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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:25 pm

That does look pretty cool.

Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Thu Apr 04, 2019 4:14 pm

release the background. We need the entire vibe for this mod. Everything you have done for this mod just makes it feel fresh

Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:27 pm

Agreed I think it would look good with it.

Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:54 pm

Perfect.

I'll release it with that background.

Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:59 pm

Dee4Three wrote:Perfect.

I'll release it with that background.


Date for release? :)

Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:06 pm

LekaNost wrote:
Dee4Three wrote:Perfect.

I'll release it with that background.


Date for release? :)


I have to finish the 06-07 Wizards, and one last team, followed by the touchups I mentioned. Once that's done, I'll release.

Honestly, hoping for sometime late next week, or at the latest the following week. I want to make sure this is a complete experience, something all of you can really sink your teeth into.

I tried to include a variety of classic teams for you guys. If you noticed, we have new 60's, 80's, 90's, 00's, 10's teams, which doesn't even include the default classic teams which are filled accurately and touched up a ton. This mod will be compatible with V2 of my all time teams and fantasy draft rosters, so you guys will be able to just have my mods installed, and 2K17 will be transformed into the ultimate retro experience.

I think this works well in 2019, because you guys aren't really interested in outdated 16-17 teams that are in the default roster. So for those people who still want to play 2K19 for the updated current rosters, they can have my mods installed for 2K17 for all the classic teams, and just total retro experience.

I also watch the view count of this thread, and there are still a lot of people who are lurking, and that makes me feel motivated. It's nice to see that people will genuinely get enjoyment out of this mod.

Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:10 pm

Just realised my previous post, while complimentary, wasn't exactly useful as a suggestion!

You might want to consider making it an optional add-on in the package. I remember when we put together the NBA Live PC Project for NBA Live 06, not everyone was a fan of the new background art, so I left it as an optional add-on. Comparing the two, I think your menu update is much more attractive and would be a bigger hit than the one that was made for the PC Project (with all due respect to the contributor who made it), and it would freshen up the game nicely, but some people would probably just like to have the roster without the frontend revamp.

Anyway, it's just a thought based on a similar situation from a while back. At the very least I'd suggest including it in the package so that people can go ahead and install it as well, if they so choose.

Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:12 pm

Dee4Three wrote:
LekaNost wrote:
Dee4Three wrote:Perfect.

I'll release it with that background.


Date for release? :)


I have to finish the 06-07 Wizards, and one last team, followed by the touchups I mentioned. Once that's done, I'll release.

Honestly, hoping for sometime late next week, or at the latest the following week. I want to make sure this is a complete experience, something all of you can really sink your teeth into.

I tried to include a variety of classic teams for you guys. If you noticed, we have new 60's, 80's, 90's, 00's, 10's teams, which doesn't even include the default classic teams which are filled accurately and touched up a ton. This mod will be compatible with V2 of my all time teams and fantasy draft rosters, so you guys will be able to just have my mods installed, and 2K17 will be transformed into the ultimate retro experience.

I think this works well in 2019, because you guys aren't really interested in outdated 16-17 teams that are in the default roster. So for those people who still want to play 2K19 for the updated current rosters, they can have my mods installed for 2K17 for all the classic teams, and just total retro experience.

I also watch the view count of this thread, and there are still a lot of people who are lurking, and that makes me feel motivated. It's nice to see that people will genuinely get enjoyment out of this mod.


Really nice work. We waiting as excited

Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:16 pm

Andrew wrote:Just realised my previous post, while complimentary, wasn't exactly useful as a suggestion!

You might want to consider making it an optional add-on in the package. I remember when we put together the NBA Live PC Project for NBA Live 06, not everyone was a fan of the new background art, so I left it as an optional add-on. Comparing the two, I think your menu update is much more attractive and would be a bigger hit than the one that was made for the PC Project (with all due respect to the contributor who made it), and it would freshen up the game nicely, but some people would probably just like to have the roster without the frontend revamp.

Anyway, it's just a thought based on a similar situation from a while back. At the very least I'd suggest including it in the package so that people can go ahead and install it as well, if they so choose.


Great points, and that makes sense.

I think this is what I will do, I will release it with this background included, and monitor the feedback on it. Also, I'll explain on the video Im going to make how to remove it if they want.

I agree with TGsoGood, making the mod feel fresh, like you are playing a remastered version of the game, is incredibly rewarding to the user. It's not just in the menus, or edit player etc either, it's the gameplay as well. You guys will notice a major difference in gameplay, including the players feeling lighter, less brick wall defense, better pace, etc. I will be including an optional slider set with this mod. I have had a lot of compliments on my youtube videos about the pace of the game, how fun it looked to play, and I want users to have that experience.

Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:58 pm

Dee4Three wrote:In progress......

Note: None of the players are done yet.

I'm adding this team mainly for sticky-fingers, as he wanted to have a Arenas Wizards team in it. After one more team (which will equal 40 new classic teams), I'll release the roster.It might be the 96-97 Hornets.

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Updated the teams list to include the 06-07 Wizards

62-63 Celtics - Cousy/Russell/Jones
66-67 76ers - Chamberlain/Greer/Cunningham
66-67 Warriors - Nate Thurmond/Rick Barry
82-83 76ers - Julius Erving/Moses Malone
82-83 Spurs - George Gervin/Artis Gilmore
85-86 Rockets - Olajuwon/Sampson/Lloyd
86-87 Trailblazers - Drexler/Kiki Vandeweghe
89-90 Lakers - Magic Johnson/James Worthy
91-92 TrailBlazers - Drexler/Porter/Kersey
92-93 Suns - Charles Barkley/Kevin Johnson
94-95 Rockets - Hakeem Olajuwon/Clyde Drexler
95-96 Spurs - David Robinson/Sean Elliott
96-97 Heat - Alonzo Mourning/Tim Hardaway
96-97 Rockets - Drexler/Barkley/Olajuwon
98-99 Knicks - Ewing/Sprewell/Houston/Johnson
99-00 Pacers - Reggie Miller/Jalen Rose
99-00 Pistons - Grant Hill/Jerry Stackhouse
00-01 Bucks - Allen/Cassell/Robinson
01-02 Kings - Bibby/Webber/Stojakovic
02-03 Wizards - Jordan/Stackhouse/Hughes
03-04 Grizzlies - Jason Williams/Pau Gasol
04-05 Spurs - Duncan/Parker/Ginobili
05-06 76ers - Allen Iverson/Chris Webber
05-06 Lakers - Kobe Bryant/Lamar Odom
05-06 Nets - Vince Carter/Jason Kidd
06-07 Mavericks - Dirk Nowitzki/Josh Howard
06-07 Nuggets - Allen Iverson/Carmelo Anthony
06-07 Warriors - Davis/Richardson/Jackson
06-07 Wizards - Arenas/Jamison/Butler
09-10 Lakers - Kobe Bryant/Pau Gasol
09-10 Suns - Nash/Amare/Hill/Richardson
10-11 Bulls - Derrick Rose/Carlos Boozer
10-11 Mavericks - Dirk Nowitzki/Jason Terry
11-12 Heat - Wade/LeBron/Bosh
11-12 Thunder - Westbrook/Durant/Harden
14-15 Warriors - Curry/Klay/Draymond
15-16 Cavaliers - Kyrie Irving/LeBron James
15-16 Thunder - Russell Westbrook/Kevin Durant
16-17 Warriors - Curry/Durant/Klay/Draymond


That's a nice and cool addition (Y)
thanx by the way for the title of the OP, every day i though the v2 was released :lol:

A question about KD, have you fixed his size since he said that he lied for years ?

Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Fri Apr 05, 2019 12:04 am

sticky-fingers wrote:
Dee4Three wrote:In progress......

Note: None of the players are done yet.

I'm adding this team mainly for sticky-fingers, as he wanted to have a Arenas Wizards team in it. After one more team (which will equal 40 new classic teams), I'll release the roster.It might be the 96-97 Hornets.

[ Image ]


Updated the teams list to include the 06-07 Wizards

62-63 Celtics - Cousy/Russell/Jones
66-67 76ers - Chamberlain/Greer/Cunningham
66-67 Warriors - Nate Thurmond/Rick Barry
82-83 76ers - Julius Erving/Moses Malone
82-83 Spurs - George Gervin/Artis Gilmore
85-86 Rockets - Olajuwon/Sampson/Lloyd
86-87 Trailblazers - Drexler/Kiki Vandeweghe
89-90 Lakers - Magic Johnson/James Worthy
91-92 TrailBlazers - Drexler/Porter/Kersey
92-93 Suns - Charles Barkley/Kevin Johnson
94-95 Rockets - Hakeem Olajuwon/Clyde Drexler
95-96 Spurs - David Robinson/Sean Elliott
96-97 Heat - Alonzo Mourning/Tim Hardaway
96-97 Rockets - Drexler/Barkley/Olajuwon
98-99 Knicks - Ewing/Sprewell/Houston/Johnson
99-00 Pacers - Reggie Miller/Jalen Rose
99-00 Pistons - Grant Hill/Jerry Stackhouse
00-01 Bucks - Allen/Cassell/Robinson
01-02 Kings - Bibby/Webber/Stojakovic
02-03 Wizards - Jordan/Stackhouse/Hughes
03-04 Grizzlies - Jason Williams/Pau Gasol
04-05 Spurs - Duncan/Parker/Ginobili
05-06 76ers - Allen Iverson/Chris Webber
05-06 Lakers - Kobe Bryant/Lamar Odom
05-06 Nets - Vince Carter/Jason Kidd
06-07 Mavericks - Dirk Nowitzki/Josh Howard
06-07 Nuggets - Allen Iverson/Carmelo Anthony
06-07 Warriors - Davis/Richardson/Jackson
06-07 Wizards - Arenas/Jamison/Butler
09-10 Lakers - Kobe Bryant/Pau Gasol
09-10 Suns - Nash/Amare/Hill/Richardson
10-11 Bulls - Derrick Rose/Carlos Boozer
10-11 Mavericks - Dirk Nowitzki/Jason Terry
11-12 Heat - Wade/LeBron/Bosh
11-12 Thunder - Westbrook/Durant/Harden
14-15 Warriors - Curry/Klay/Draymond
15-16 Cavaliers - Kyrie Irving/LeBron James
15-16 Thunder - Russell Westbrook/Kevin Durant
16-17 Warriors - Curry/Durant/Klay/Draymond


That's a nice and cool addition (Y)
thanx by the way for the title of the OP, every day i though the v2 was released :lol:

A question about KD, have you fixed his size since he said that he lied for years ?


No problem.

And no, but you can fix it when the roster is released, takes two seconds. I agree that he is not 6'9", but for the official release I'm going to stick to the official height listing on basketball reference and other sources.

But yeah, he is closer to 7'0".

Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:39 am

When I'm done the 06-07 Wizards, I may make a preview video (pump up video) for the roster. Similar to a Shady type video, I'll put it to music and whatnot.

Probably overkill for a game like 2K17 which is almost 3 years out from it's original development cycle, but thought it may be cool to do.

Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:24 am

Some other really neat things I think you guys will love.

The scoreboard that will be released with the mod is the NBA on TNT 2003 scoreboard made by Sticky-Fingers. It looks absolutely perfect IMO, and with the game having a TNT vibe as it is, it just fits. Because of this, I created a NBA on TNT watermark for the bottom left hand corner of the screen, and a NBA on TNT wipe. Take a look.

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Also, some other accuracy things. I've put in older/younger versions of players in order to give the roster more authenticity, some examples below. These were done either via conversions from 2K18, conversions from 2K18 with my tweaks, or just tweaks by me. The original authors of the conversions will be in the credits. The 09-10 Kobe was tweaked by Trevor and it looks AMAZING.

09-10 Bynum and 05-06 Bynum

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15-16 Westbrook and 11-12 Westbrook

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09-10 Kobe and 05-06 Kobe

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06-07 Dirk, 10-11 Dirk, and 01-02 Dirk

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09-10 Gasol and 03-04 Gasol

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96-97, 91-92 and 86-87 Drexler

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07-08 Ray Allen and 00-01 Ray Allen (I'm going to thin out the 00-01 Allen)

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02-03 Jordan and 92-93 Jordan

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There are many other examples of this in the roster, but just wanted to give you an idea. For example, both Amare and Nash for 09-10 look accurate and different from 04-05, Iguodala looks different on the 05-06 76ers than he does on the Warriors, Durant looks different in 11-12 than 15-16, etc.

Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:45 pm

Nice details.
We just gotta work on young Ray Allen

Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:12 pm

Awesome!

Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:20 pm

TGsoGood wrote:Nice details.
We just gotta work on young Ray Allen


100%, that's why I put that disclaimer above the screens.

I'll be thinning out his neck, shoulders and arms, just making him overall look thinner and cut. Right now he looks like Uncle Fester from the Addams Family... lol

Last night I made Ralph Sampson more accurate, and did a couple other things. I'll be adding short 3D hair to the 09-10 Bynum, cleaning up his goatee, and making his skin look a tad younger (Smooth him out).

Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:13 am

OH my.

Bro, these faces are looking insanely good.

I just told you via DM's that I'm going to check this out on Saturday. I'm lying, I think I'm doing this right now.

Thank you for this Dee!!

PS: I've been requested a raptors team for a few years. Please? for me?

Thanks brother, much love to you for all this work you are putting in. I'm coming back to NBA 2k17!

If only, Sticky-Fingers would release his 06-07 NBA ESPN score board for NBA 2k17 as well as NBA 2k19 (I had suggested it to him on the NBA2k19 pages and he began working on it instantly lol)

Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:56 am

timmyd wrote:OH my.

Bro, these faces are looking insanely good.

I just told you via DM's that I'm going to check this out on Saturday. I'm lying, I think I'm doing this right now.

Thank you for this Dee!!

PS: I've been requested a raptors team for a few years. Please? for me?

Thanks brother, much love to you for all this work you are putting in. I'm coming back to NBA 2k17!

If only, Sticky-Fingers would release his 06-07 NBA ESPN score board for NBA 2k17 as well as NBA 2k19 (I had suggested it to him on the NBA2k19 pages and he began working on it instantly lol)


Thanks man, it's not released yet. Within the next two weeks it will be.

After I release it, ill try to do a silent update for you with a raptors team

Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:14 pm

I put 2K16s sound effects into 2K17.

More thunderous dunks, better rim sounds, better net sounds, etc. I'll show you how it sounds this weekend.

Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:48 am

Great (Y)
I wish you also could remove the annoying sound when selecting ingame tactics :x

Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:27 am

I figured out how to change the team stats and choose sides background. I am going through to see what other presentation aspects I can edit.

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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:58 am

Love it!

Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:20 pm

Before the game when the game is loading

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Re: D43 - Ultimate Classic Teams Roster - V2 in progress! - PC

Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:10 pm

My favorite presentation for 2K might be 2K14 on this gen. I changed the menus to the same color/pattern from 2K14, what do you think? I literally took the pattern and color from the 2K14 actual background.

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FYI - Im still finishing the last two teams, I just needed a break to do something else for a couple days.
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