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BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K17 to 2K16 - 2K18 -> 2K21 are WIP

Postby Dee4Three on Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:56 pm

I was messing around with a NBA 2K16 model in Blender 2.79, and decided to try a conversion using a combination of 2 Blender programs.

The goal: Get the Dream Team Charles Barkley from NBA 2K17 into NBA 2K16.... and it worked!

Everything works.. eyes, mouth, animations, etc. And, if this works with 2K17 faces, still trying to make it work with 2K18 through 2K21, because I found a way to make the mesh data transfer tool WORK for 2K16 models

NBA 2K17 Dream Team Barkley in NBA 2K16

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GREAT news... 3D hair works (easily), you can use any hairstyle you want from 2K16 on any face you convert

I converted my 2K17 07-08 Melo to 2K16, and used Shannon Browns Hair (From 2K16).

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This means that when I am done with my NBA 2K17 UCTRV3 release... I will try and chip away at a UCTR roster for 2K16...

Again, I will keep trying to get 2K18 through 2K21 models to work with 2K16.

Here is the tutorial (With commentary) on how to convert faces from NBA 2K17 to NBA 2K16


Here are the Blender plugins you need for both 2.72 and 2.82. I included the 2K19 and NBA 2K14 plugins as well..... because why not?

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ixb4ibm2u ... s.zip/file

NOTE: at 5:05 in, I mention 2K17 original hair, I meant to say 2K16 original hair. With these conversions, you will be using 2K16s hair. For this conversion, that is Iversons original NBA 2K16 hair on the final conversion

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This is at the end of the video as well. But here is the finished product after I corrected the hair color and slightly tweaked the left eye placement

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This is what he looked like before the conversion

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Let me know if you have any questions. I am still working on figuring out 2K18 through 2K21 conversions to 2K16.


Note: This tutorial has also been added to the tutorials section here on NLSC
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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K21, 2K20, 2K19, 2K18, 2K17 to 2K16

Postby batuhansnmz on Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:13 pm

Players LIKE Joel Embiid, Steven AdAMS may need a new cyberface too.Will you take care of them sir?
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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K21, 2K20, 2K19, 2K18, 2K17 to 2K16

Postby sticky-fingers on Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:30 pm

great news, it means a lot to me if we can convert CFs to 2K16 !

Wait for the explanations ;)

Any problem with texture or the conversion keeps the mapping ?
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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K21, 2K20, 2K19, 2K18, 2K17 to 2K16

Postby Simonn-Lee on Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:16 pm

This is PHENOMENAL!!!! :crazyeyes: :applaud: :crazyeyes:
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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K21, 2K20, 2K19, 2K18, 2K17 to 2K16

Postby Andrew on Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:37 pm

Awesome! Compatibility/conversions between games has always been huge. This should facilitate some great updates for favourites that are growing older, but people still have interest in.
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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K21, 2K20, 2K19, 2K18, 2K17 to 2K16

Postby Dee4Three on Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:47 pm

sticky-fingers wrote:great news, it means a lot to me if we can convert CFs to 2K16 !

Wait for the explanations ;)

Any problem with texture or the conversion keeps the mapping ?


Texture has no issues, it works just like 2K20 conversions to other games really.. all you have to do sometimes is alter the color/hue/saturation a little to match the arms, but that isnt hard and I've been doing it on my conversions for other games.

It's going to be a busy day, but I'll see if I can get out a tutorial soon
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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K21, 2K20, 2K19, 2K18, 2K17 to 2K16

Postby Dee4Three on Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:16 am

batuhansnmz wrote:Players LIKE Joel Embiid, Steven AdAMS may need a new cyberface too.Will you take care of them sir?


I would probably leave the new players to guys like Simon-Lee and Seven0seven, as I mostly do retro rosters.

However, guys like Russell Westbrook, Steph Curry, etc I would need for my rosters... so I would be doing SOME current players
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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K21, 2K20, 2K19, 2K18, 2K17 to 2K16

Postby LeeWeij on Wed Nov 25, 2020 12:41 am

That is cool!And I am looking forward to it more
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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K21, 2K20, 2K19, 2K18, 2K17 to 2K16

Postby Simonn-Lee on Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:22 am

Dee4Three wrote:
batuhansnmz wrote:Players LIKE Joel Embiid, Steven AdAMS may need a new cyberface too.Will you take care of them sir?


I would probably leave the new players to guys like Simon-Lee and Seven0seven, as I mostly do retro rosters.

However, guys like Russell Westbrook, Steph Curry, etc I would need for my rosters... so I would be doing SOME current players


What specific year of curry would u like to do? If it's 2015 one, I think the original one is already perfect :mrgreen:

Anyways, I'm not picky to their faces while playing 16. Anything matters is just the roster :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

For Embiid , I think the only thing missed in game is his hair, nothing wrong with his face or body. If there's a way to add hair, maybe I'll try
For Adams, he's ferfect already in my opinion :roll:

Although the 2020 roster in the forum did a great job, I still think 16 is better for playing retro teams(before 2016) instead of newer teams
Perhaps the gameplay of 16 is a bit "old" for now (17 really made a big jump in gameplay :crazyeyes: :applaud: :applaud: )
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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K21, 2K20, 2K19, 2K18, 2K17 to 2K16

Postby Dee4Three on Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:26 am

Yeah I think Adams look good in 2k16.. it was 2k15 where he had the short hair and no facial hair.
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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K21, 2K20, 2K19, 2K18, 2K17 to 2K16

Postby Simonn-Lee on Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:36 am

The things that I love about 16 are its tempo and defense, as well as its simple and reactive dribbles
17's dribble combos are awesome but a bit complicated for me.
But it feels amazing when I handle one and drop the defender
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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K21, 2K20, 2K19, 2K18, 2K17 to 2K16

Postby Dee4Three on Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:57 am

GREAT news... 3D hair works (easily), you can use any hairstyle you want from 2K16 on any face you convert

I converted my 2K17 07-08 Melo to 2K16, and used Shannon Browns Hair (From 2K16).

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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K21, 2K20, 2K19, 2K18, 2K17 to 2K16

Postby Simonn-Lee on Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:04 am

:shock: :shock: WOW
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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K21, 2K20, 2K19, 2K18, 2K17 to 2K16

Postby batuhansnmz on Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:25 am

Simonn-Lee, The players look absolutely fine but they seem a bit far from the current look.(Some of course)
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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K21, 2K20, 2K19, 2K18, 2K17 to 2K16

Postby Dee4Three on Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:49 am

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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K21, 2K20, 2K19, 2K18, 2K17 to 2K16

Postby Dee4Three on Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:40 pm

So.... bad news....

For some reason, the head has a split in it when converting 2K18 though 2K21 to 2K16... the ears are also a little rough, and something is wrong with the eyes (They are... filled?)

2K17 to 2K16 works amazing... but we need to find a way to get the 2K18 though 2K21 conversions to work.

I will do the tutorial on 2K17 to 2K16, and maybe we can have a couple people take a crack at the newer games to 2K16.

Sorry guys....
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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K17 to 2K16 - 2K18 -> 2K21 are WIP

Postby sticky-fingers on Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:23 pm

perhaps its just the source CF.
I had few strange results like this when i try to convert some CFs in 2K20.
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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K17 to 2K16 - 2K18 -> 2K21 are WIP

Postby Simonn-Lee on Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:40 pm

I guess it's the same issue when converting 18,19,20's CF to 17's, if we based on the original 17's CF...
Hard to explain but u might get the point, the head splited, eyes hole filled, as well as issues on the lips

If we can convert 17's to 16, it's already great, and adding hair! :applaud: :applaud:
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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K17 to 2K16 - 2K18 -> 2K21 are WIP

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:27 am

Simonn-Lee wrote:I guess it's the same issue when converting 18,19,20's CF to 17's, if we based on the original 17's CF...
Hard to explain but u might get the point, the head splited, eyes hole filled, as well as issues on the lips

If we can convert 17's to 16, it's already great, and adding hair! :applaud: :applaud:


Well, I thought using my 2K18 to 2K17 conversion models as a base would work, because that is how I get all the faces from 2K18 through 2K21 to 2K17.

But for some reason, the 2k16 models are not taking the same...

I will keep testing. For me, its important to have 2K18 through 2k21 to work, so I can bring over all the amazing faces, and also my Maloney, Price, Smush. Etc
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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K17 to 2K16 - 2K18 -> 2K21 are WIP

Postby sticky-fingers on Thu Nov 26, 2020 2:14 am

Anyway could you explain quickly how you made the ones above ?
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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K17 to 2K16 - 2K18 -> 2K21 are WIP

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:20 am

sticky-fingers wrote:Anyway could you explain quickly how you made the ones above ?


Uploading the tutorial now
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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K17 to 2K16 - 2K18 -> 2K21 are WIP

Postby sticky-fingers on Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:24 am

Thanx (Y)
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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K17 to 2K16 - 2K18 -> 2K21 are WIP

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:01 am

Here is the tutorial (With commentary) on how to convert faces from NBA 2K17 to NBA 2K16


Here are the Blender plugins you need for both 2.72 and 2.82. I included the 2K19 and NBA 2K14 plugins as well..... because why not?

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ixb4ibm2u ... s.zip/file

NOTE: at 5:05 in, I mention 2K17 original hair, I meant to say 2K16 original hair. With these conversions, you will be using 2K16s hair. For this conversion, that is Iversons original NBA 2K16 hair on the final conversion

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This is at the end of the video as well. But here is the finished product after I corrected the hair color and slightly tweaked the left eye placement

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This is what he looked like before the conversion

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Let me know if you have any questions. I am still working on figuring out 2K18 through 2K21 conversions to 2K16.


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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K17 to 2K16 - 2K18 -> 2K21 are WIP

Postby Simonn-Lee on Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:11 pm

Great tutorial thank u!!

Copy and paste is a smart idea.... :applaud: :crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: I've never thought about it

How about adding hair, the same as 17?
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Re: BIG DISCOVERY! - Cyberface Conversions from 2K17 to 2K16 - 2K18 -> 2K21 are WIP

Postby Dee4Three on Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:38 pm

Simonn-Lee wrote:Great tutorial thank u!!

Copy and paste is a smart idea.... :applaud: :crazyeyes: :crazyeyes: I've never thought about it

How about adding hair, the same as 17?


You can just use hair from 2k16, that tutorial shows the whole process.

For example, let's say you wanted to convert Brandon Ingram to 2K16, you can just go and find the player you want who has the same hair, and do the process I show in the video.

When you are done converting, Ingram will have the hair of the player you chose. But like I said in the video, sometimes you have to adjust the position of the hair or scale it if it doesnt automatically fit the head perfect (I got lucky with Iverson)
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