NLSC MOVIE Club?!?

[benji]

Wait, MOVIE club?

Yeah, music club is probably too difficult to do properly. Even with a reboot along sensible lines.

But movies, that seems like it has some potential. Especially since you can sit down with your wife, friends or cat and watch a movie.

This thread is to feel out interest while proposing some questions that can color in the lines. (Wow, racist.)

But let's get to the opening concept.

The core question is "suggest a movie you do not think others have seen that you think they should."

This is not entirely binding, if you want to suggest Titanic or Sex in the City or Spice World or whatever, you CAN, but it's best if you try to get in some "hidden gems" to go along with it.

It won't be regulated too seriously though so if you pick something like Pulp Fiction there is enough diversity here (age, non-U.S. members, etc.) that will be fine but if you say The Dark Knight or Avatar, no, go fuck yourself. You will definitely have to pick again.

Every period gets a new thread and ten new movies offered up, people can review as many or as few as they like, there is no penalty, no strike system, etc. There are benefits to reviewing, the "winner" (who reviews the most) is guaranteed at least three suggestions (absent term limits) for the next period while everyone else is granted suggestions based on how many they reviewed in the prior period. The term limits are that nobody can suggest more than two periods in a row. If you're term limited you can gain a bonus suggestion of some sort from still "winning" your "out" period.

Here's the questions, numbered for your convenience:
1. How long should the period be? One month or two months? Two months lets you essentially watch a movie a week and get to eight or nine. But one month can move through suggestions faster. Ideas are welcome, but two months should really be the cap.
B. Do you prefer the allocation system based on how many you review (vs. the "winner" getting three) or would you prefer a "top three" each getting three suggestions plus some kind of award/vote/etc. for a fourth suggestion based on best review, only person to watch a certain movie, the means to get the bonus suggestion, etc.? Other ideas welcome.
III. Re-nominations. What should the statute of limitations be? Say the first week has Star Wars suggested, how long until Star Wars can be re-suggested? Never? A year? Should it be based on how many reviewed it? Should it be in and an eleventh movie added instead?
#. How should bonus suggestions be treated? Ability to guarantee one a spot whenever they want? Allow a bump to four? Avoid a waiver on a popular film? So on.

We could also do something for a "featured" eleventh spot along the lines of the "great album" concept but as "Great Movies." And using the biggest box office, best reviewed on imdb/rottentomatoes, etc. lists we could have say five movies in a poll at the top of the thread, with the winner gaining this spot. Which would leave ten suggested by members movies plus one guaranteed "great" or popular film. That could help stop those movies from showing up in the suggested lists while retaining their relevance and our desire to watch them.

Other questions, ideas and so on can be offered.

Just to note, the first period will be different from the rest. Me and Jae will each be offering five movies. This was done to let everyone else have a clean slate based on their reviews alone, we will not propose in the second period unless there is some reason to do so, as well as to create a standard as to how to suggest movies, etc. Looking at Jae's list, and although I haven't decided on THE FIVE yet I will pick based on this idea, there should be a good mix of different types of films so hopefully everyone will get at least a couple films that may pique their interest.

This should be seen as quite laid back, and the threads should encourage discussion about the films, even outside the reviews. Everyone should feel free to have discussions among the reviews. Consider it a review/discussion hybrid. Indeed, if say I posted a review of a movie, you could rather than write a direct separate review if you wrote a review that was a "response" to mine that would count. Disagreeing over a certain point or whatever obviously would not count, but writing reviews that incorporate others opinions on certain sections and agreeing/disagreeing should not be a problem. Also, once a period ends, feel free to CONTINUE DISCUSSING THE FILMS in that thread, or even watching/reviewing them. We could even formulate some kind of system where you get quarter credits or something for this.

Anyway, I was going to just start the club but figured we could wait until September 1 to start and that would let this thread and everyone get a say in.

[JaoSming]

But movies, that seems like it has some potential. Especially since you can sit down with your wife, friends or cat and watch a movie.

Reservoir Dogs was good, thanks for askin'

but sure, I'm in. And don't worry about duplicates right now. Let's just get this to last past October before we worry about resuggestions.

[Oznogrd]

i can try to be in. If we've already seen the suggested movie, is re-watching it always necessary? Id say yes unless its a movie we know like the back of our hand..(Wait, what the fuck is that thing?...old joke over) and are we insuring its only movies you can get online somewhere for viewing without using sources that involve eye patches and parrots?

Maybe 6 weeks on the "time" Thats long enough to give people slack if their busy: but short enough where its not "i have to do this all the time"

B: Keep it simple whatever we decide. Id be up for people who review the most get the picks with maybe a special bonus for watching all of them

III. I'd say at least a year for re-suggestion but as jao said: we need to just get this off the ground first

Also: how are we defining popular? just box office? many many more of my friends love pulp fiction over TDK or Avatar.

[benji]

i can try to be in. If we've already seen the suggested movie, is re-watching it always necessary? Id say yes unless its a movie we know like the back of our hand

Hey, if you can fake it.

and are we insuring its only movies you can get online somewhere for viewing without using sources that involve eye patches and parrots?

Considering how many people are not in the U.S. we will not pass judgement... I did mention to JaoSming that I will see about putting links to Netflix/Amazon Prime/Hulu/etc. for movies if possible.

Also: how are we defining popular? just box office? many many more of my friends love pulp fiction over TDK or Avatar.

The same criteria for a "Great Movies" extra would be more or less the same for the "kick out of suggestions" aspect:

using the biggest box office, best reviewed on imdb/rottentomatoes, etc.

Although, I am not loathe to someone making a new argument for something.

Like say someone who advocates for The Phantom Menance.

I think that if most people internalize "suggest a movie you do not think others have seen that you think they should" it's somewhat self-explanatory.

[shadowgrin]

What is your stand on suggested foreign movies without subtitles?

[JaoSming]

no one's forcing you to watch anything you dont want to?

[shadowgrin]

Obama doesn't think that way.

[benji]

Foreign movies are more than fine if they have subtitles easily available. Or even if they're only dubbed.

It would be worth checking, and this applies to any indie films and such as well, if they can be watched fairly easily though. If you suggest something that people wind up not being able to find somewhere we'll probably allow a substitution.

Might actually start things this weekend to give some extra time to the first run. So we can see how long it's taking, etc.

[Kenny]

I haven't been much of a movie watcher the last few years, but I'd like to try and participate in this as it sounds like it'll be fun.

[benji]

Okay, we are go: viewtopic.php?f=76&t=81944

[Oznogrd]

Did we establish some sort of guidelines for the reviews? I mean there's big long write ups analyzing every element, then theres a paragraph or so. What are we going for here?

I vote this thread be reserved for discussion and the other thread for suggestions/reviews

[shadowgrin]

goddamn benji.
I know there are some serious suggestions there but his comments for some of the films that I know makes me hesitant to believe him and watch the other films that I don't know.

I don't want to waste my time on a movie that has David Schwimmer in it, even if it has Simon Pegg in it too.

[J@3]

Half of them are mine, you just have to cut through our impenetrable wit and movie reviewing abilities to pick the right ones

[shadowgrin]

pick the right ones

A side challenge for the participants!

I have decided to pick via coin flip.
Will post my reviews when I get to watch at least one movie that I don't know.
Though it is tempting to watch The Room again.

[benji]

Did we establish some sort of guidelines for the reviews? I mean there's big long write ups analyzing every element, then theres a paragraph or so. What are we going for here?

I say at minimum like a paragraph or so for it to count. But there should be no reason someone can't write as much as they want. Remember the threads are intended to also inspire discussion and not just be what they are likely to wind up as where people just post their own opinions and ignore everything else posted. So there's reason to harp on or praise specific things.

For example, what you posted, I'd accept as a review. I know you didn't rewatch the films, I think that has to be fine in some respects, but if someone wrote that much for a new watching that'd probably be fine. What Lamecock posted, no, obviously not.

The "standard" is probably, you watch a film, write up a couple paragraphs and you're an ideal contributor. Spit out three or four sentences you're fine. Write a treatise you're a god among chimpanzees.

No reason someone can't post "this movie was shit/great" or something although they should explain why, especially if questioned. But the above standards are what apply to those wanting to suggest.

I don't want to waste my time on a movie that has David Schwimmer in it, even if it has Simon Pegg in it too.

What if I told you it was a top three favorite movie in the entire list.

No lame ass sarcasm either.

We will pretend you didn't try and tar Band of Brothers, the greatest mini-series in TV history, by its Schwimmer association.

All of my suggestions are serious btw. I legitimately enjoy every movie I suggested. That's sorta the entire theme of "suggest a movie you do not think others have seen that you think they should."

And I went easy on you guys for the first run.

Half of them are mine, you just have to cut through our impenetrable wit and movie reviewing abilities to pick the right ones

Which are all of them!