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Y10K

Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:03 am

Well guys, about six and a half years later I reached the 10,000 post plateau. Honestly I thought I might not get there at times. Sorry in advance for the long read, I know many will just flick quickly & say congrats but we're all busy, so I understand :wink:

Not many people know this but I had actually started come to NLSC way back in 1997 when Tim and Lutz ran the show. I even corresponded quite a bit with Tim to give him tips to improve the NLSC rosters. The main purpose of my visits back then were to get NLSC roster updates as well as any other major patches to improve Live ’98. I think back then I was in some off-line non-sim leagues when you played your games and export the stats files and e-mail them to the league commissioner. Those were the good old days. I remember guys like Method from Perth who was an Odom fan from his one year at Rhode Island and a Shane guy from Melbourne who I think liked Kobe from memory (who didn't?) and had blonde tips (the fashion back then). I even did rosters using Tim’s editor tools for one non-sim league in particular. Fun times indeed (for a dork that is). I should've realised by then, if I hadn't already, that I was destined to waste too much time in alternate realities to the real life NBA (i.e. dynasties, Associations etc).

Anyways, I stopped coming to the NLSC gaming community after Live '99 as by that time I had finished high school, moved out of home at 18 and went through my next few years of uni without a PC. I didn’t own a PC again until after I had moved from New Zealand to Australia (in 2002) after I finished university & started my Masters in 2004. Once I had a PC that was capable, I couldn't help myself and I picked up Live ’04 after being disappointed in all the offerings of Live on PSX and PS2 between 2000 and 2002. They just didn’t match up to the graphics and customisation of the PC version (of how times have changed :P ). I picked up roster patches and other stuff for Live ’04, but shortly before getting Live ’05 I noticed a little section called the ‘Forums’. I checked it out one day and stumbled across the Dynasty section, saw some of cocobee's creations and I’ve been hooked to it ever since (well moved across to Association section now). If memory serves me correctly, it took about a week for my registration to be accepted and I had to send Andrew a private e-mail asking how much longer the registration process would take and he promptly accepted my registration after that. Did it take anybody else a week to get accepted on an internet forum? Must have been an exclusive place I guess :P

A lot has happened since I joined the forums back in 2004. Firstly six and a half years have passed. As many of you older hands will know, a helluva lot can happen over this time & your outlook on life does change. Anyways, over that time period I have bought, sold and bought another house, met, dated, got engaged and married to my wife, changed jobs and more recently my beautiful daughter came into the world. Throughout all that time the one constant has been the NLSC. Why am I telling you all this, who knows? Maybe because there’s no guarantee I’ll get to 20,000 or 25,000 posts (my next major milestone) since you don’t know what curve balls that life will throw at you. Even if I am here, it doesn’t mean the a lot of my current NLSC breathen will.

Anyways, enough of the biopic, this can be the last time I rehash all that. Time for some shoutouts, X-style. Your current NBA comparison based on your posting styles, NLSC longevity etc. I’m just going to do an Elite 8 (in no particular order) in honour of March Madness. Actually, real reason there is only eight because I got to that number and gave up as too time consuming. I hope some of you continue the NBA comparisons for other posters :P


Andrew – Dirk Nowitzki

Had to put Andrew first as without him the community wouldn’t be as strong as it currently is. I actually originally thought about putting his comparison as Tim Duncan, but The Big Fundamental’s game is starting to slip a little bit so it’s not an apt comparison since Andrew’s hasn’t.

Like Dirk, Andrew has many good, productive years ahead of him, if he wants them that is. Both are somewhat underrated at times. Both were thrust into leading roles in their NLSC/NBA careers at an early. Both have had their doubters, but they have both never wavered from their cause.

I don’t think Andrew has been engaged to an ex-con cougar though :rimshot:

If you’re ever in Brisbane, offer is still open for a beer (my shout of course). Happy to drink a couple of brews & talk basketball/Live any day.

Random hope: I wish Andrew would do a Bulls’ Association on 2k forums rather than continue with his Live ’99 or whatever PC version he uses. Maybe with PC 2k12, one can hope :P


Jae – Kevin Garnett

I couldn’t really think of anybody for a comparison (granted I didn’t think too hard about any of them :P ) so I thought about the guy who is happy to punch a white guy if they annoy him (in Jae’s case white = Pinoy). From memory, I don't think you like KG that much, so feel free to flame me or give a NBA comparison for me that I won't like :lol:

Jae seems like he’d be a standup sort of guy IRL. Won’t say too much more here, but Jae’s done a shite load for the NLSC community since I've been here.

Random fact: We both were fans of Cedric Ceballos and the circa 94-95 Lakers. We both like teams before they get too successful and then leave them once they sell out (e.g. signing Shaq, trading away Ced Ceballos, trading for Kobe, getting rid of Eddie, Nick Van Quick etc). We are reverse bandwagoners in a way.


Sit – Kobe Bryant

Sit’s gonna love this comparisons, but maybe not for the same reasons that I am giving it :P

Both are polarising lightening rods. You either like them or you don’t, there are no inbetweens. Both started their NLSC/NBA careers as talented but brashful youngsters. As they gained more experience they became even more polarising to other members of NLSC/NBA as they became more arrogant because they knew they were good. Now they have both matured, become slightly less polarising by focusing on the things that they succeed in (Sit – Dynasties/Associations & away from General Talk; Kobe – on the court, not in a hotel room from behind. Leave that to shadow).

Sit and I are now mates IRL as a result of NLSC, so you can’t say the site has no tangible benefits. I called on him when the Fighting Irish (my old social bball team that I had running for 5 years until recently) were short on numbers and needed a token Asian (and a point guard). He played for the great franchise for about 2 and a half, maybe 3 years & was good to see his game improve over this time.

Random fact: Sit kept me out of jail on my Bucks’ Night thanks to his quick talking when the piggies had me in handcuffs (long story, no need to get into that one this time). If it weren’t for the NLSC I would’ve been in lockup to end my Bucks’ Night and had like Brendan Fevola, had a public nuisance charge to my name.


dragon@4Q or whatever the heck his NLSC name is – Joe Smith

Dragon is another member of NLSC that I know personally who also added much needed height (6’7”) to the Fighting Irish cause. I forgive him for not making it to our first semi final in a season when we realistically had a chance to win it all, even though Sit never will :P

Sadly I don’t think we’ll hear much from Dragon anymore (I’m sure there are more than a few of you who are happy about that though) since NBA Delete died and the former Live franchise is no longer produced at EA Canada.

Comparison is for the sake that as a poster, he had potential, but probably never fulfilled it. I think he did a bunch of patching but that’s not how I know him.

Random fact: Funnily enough even without NLSC, we only have one degree of separation. My wife actually knew him and went to his 21st back in the day. Who knows, I think he might’ve even have had half a chance if he hadn’t of gone the easy route, with her more easy friend :lol:


Mark. – James Posey

Like Posey, my fellow Kiwi and Cantabrian Mark is more or less gone from NLSC. He’s a sentimental favourite around the dynasty sections for a few of the vets of that section. Was never the great poster he could’ve been in dynasty and general sections due to real life prioritisation, but that is understandable. Still capable of making key contributions like our man Posey.

Random fact: He’s played against (and beaten) my high school basketball team. After I left of course, otherwise result would’ve been different (Y)


Lamrock – Gilbert Arenas

Lamrock is a definite favourite around the place, for me at least. A bit of a jokester who started out very young. Like Gilbert, he started with a bang and made a big impression around the forums/NBA. Just like Gilbert, both have/are going through darker times and that is reflective in their posts/gunplay. I hope for the best for both Lam & Gil, although life seems to have beaten them both down. Look at the bright side of life, it's the only way.

Random fact: I think Lamrock knows more about my Hall of Fame (shameless plug) Live ’05 Bobcats Dynasty than I do.


Jeffx – Ray Allen

They’re both long-time vets who are often forgotten but command instant respect when they decide to show their game. Jeffx is a wealth of knowledge when it comes to NBA & I hope he continues to stick around.

Random fact: This cat enjoyed watching Bird vs Magic and remembers the last time the Knicks won a title. I'd prefer one Jeffx over 100 Heat bandwagoners.


Benji – Steve Nash

Everybody loves benji stats. Without him I might not know that Basketball Reference even existed. As a closet stats geek myself, I can appreciate his epicness in this regards. I also like his wit, even if it flies over most people's heads most of the time.

Don’t know why I put Nash as his comparison, maybe it’s just for the fact that both don’t take themselves too seriously and are witty. Both are also intelligent and articulate. They both make everybody around them better just by their presence on the court/forums.

[i]Random wish:/i] Career statistical analysis of Cedric Ceballos and John Wallace.


Anyways, will end on that note. Hope you guys continue the NBA comparisons for all the guys that I didn't get around to doing.

Thanks to NLSC, hope it sticks around well into the future (Y)

Cheers,
X :chug:

Re: Y10K

Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:10 am

Congrats on the 10K X! :D

Re: Y10K

Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:03 am

like the shoutouts, congrats man

Re: Y10K

Fri Jun 03, 2011 7:58 am

'Grats X, 10,000 club getting bigger (Y)

Re: Y10K

Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:04 am

Congrats X

Re: Y10K

Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:57 am

Nicely done X (Y)

Re: Y10K

Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:27 am

Congrats X, always one of the better posters around here and I'm glad you stuck with the place unlike every other half decent poster we had lol also a really good moderator which I think gets overlooked a fair bit. I'm alright with the KG comparison, I think someone compared me to Dennis Rodman once and that raised far more issues with me than KG does.

Re: Y10K

Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:38 am

Congratulations X. :beer:

Re: Y10K

Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:25 pm

Congrats on the milestone X, great to have you around and part of the team. I discovered the NLSC around about the same time all those years ago and emailed back and forth with Tim, Lutz and Brien a bit, so I can certainly relate to that tale. As for the wait on registration, I think around that time we had registration set to admin approval for one reason or another, so it probably got caught by spam filters or I somehow overlooked it. Certainly wouldn't happen these days since we've long since gone to the more standard user activation method.

Congrats also on all the stuff away from the Forum, great stuff. :)

Nice idea for a milestone thread, nice job on the comparisons. I'll certainly take the Nowitzki comparison. I haven't been engaged to an ex-con cougar but hey, there's still plenty of time. I'm sure I'll get up to Brisbane to visit my brother at some point in the near future so I'm certainly up for a beer or two; no XXXX, though!

A little respect for NBA Live 06 PC, please. :scold: I might do an Association thread one day, we'll see. As much as I liked NBA 2K11, I'm still a little iffy on 2K's control scheme so I'm not as into it as I have been past NBA Lives and I really have enjoyed that 06 Dynasty. But yeah, we'll see.

The X wrote:Sit kept me out of jail on my Bucks’ Night thanks to his quick talking when the piggies had me in handcuffs (long story, no need to get into that one this time). If it weren’t for the NLSC I would’ve been in lockup to end my Bucks’ Night and had like Brendan Fevola, had a public nuisance charge to my name.


Come now, you can't just mention a story like that in passing and not elaborate! If we do meet up for a beer sometime in the future, I have to hear that one. ;)

Re: Y10K

Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:03 pm

Congrats on the 10k X, you've been here since i got here and your posts are always quality (Y)

Hm...we did a scouting report thread, i bet we could do a NBA Comparison thread.

Re: Y10K

Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:50 pm

X :chug: X


The X wrote:Sit – Kobe Bryant

Both started their NLSC/NBA careers as talented but brashful youngsters. As they gained more experience they became even more polarising to other members of NLSC/NBA as they became more arrogant because they knew they were good.

I think the hate was well placed when he kept telling how good he was even though he admitted that he was a third string PG during that time.

Re: Y10K

Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:04 pm

Congrats, X! I'm surprised you didn't have any Sean Marks comparison, though. :P

Re: Y10K

Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:29 pm

No one can fairly be compared to greatness like that.

Re: Y10K

Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:36 pm

You're right about Joel Anthony.

Re: Y10K

Fri Jun 03, 2011 4:39 pm

Congrats X, it's always great to see you around here.

Re: Y10K

Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:51 pm

Thanks for comments guys. I don't think I'm that good of a moderator as don't do much. As for Sean Marks, it would tough to find an appropriate comparison. The forum member would have to have been around for at least 4 or 5 years, they'd have to get along with everybody, be encouraging, go away for months at a time then do a post or two then disappear again. When they re-appear they would have to have a different avatar. Finally, despite being around for so long, they'd have less than 100 posts. So as you can see guys, very tough criteria :lol:

Still keen to hear some NBA comparisons for some posters. I wonder who's comparable to shadowgrin or Jackal :cool:

One other point I forgot to raise in my original post is that I think I've got the highest proportion of comments that end a thread than any other member in NLSC history. That's my claim to fame. Either I'm always late to the party or my comments just kill any logical forum conversation. I haven't worked it out.

Andrew wrote:Nice idea for a milestone thread, nice job on the comparisons. I'll certainly take the Nowitzki comparison. I haven't been engaged to an ex-con cougar but hey, there's still plenty of time.

The cougar part maybe, just avoid the ex-con on the run who fakes pregnancy to you. Poor Dirk. Felt terrible for him at the time.

Andrew wrote:I'm sure I'll get up to Brisbane to visit my brother at some point in the near future so I'm certainly up for a beer or two; no XXXX, though!

I hate XXXX. Only Aussie beer I'll touch is maybe Blondes & Toohey's Extra Dry. If I'm drinking beer, which isn't much these days, I tend to prefer a Kilkenny, Hoegaarden or a Heineken. Overall, not a huge beer man myself, especially not XXXX :P

Andrew wrote:A little respect for NBA Live 06 PC, please. :scold: I might do an Association thread one day, we'll see. As much as I liked NBA 2K11, I'm still a little iffy on 2K's control scheme so I'm not as into it as I have been past NBA Lives and I really have enjoyed that 06 Dynasty. But yeah, we'll see.

Don't worry about it, now that forums are combined it doesn't really matter if it's Live or 2k, which is great in my eyes. As for Live '06, I never said I didn't respect the game. It was a pretty good game. I owned it on PC & had a Blazers' Dynasty with it, so I did enjoy it, as I did with Live '98 (very good), '99 (pretty good), '04 (good), '05 (very good).

FYI for everybody else, other basketball games I owned on consoles included NBA Jam (very good), NBA Live '95 (great), NBA Live '97 (mediocre), NBA Live '00 (mediocre - PC version was good, console was not), NBA Live '02 (mediocre), NBA 2k6 (very good), NBA 2k7 (very good), College Hoops 2k8 (great), NBA 2k8 (average), NBA 2k9 (above average), NBA 2k10 (average) & NBA 2k11 (very good).

As far as my comment goes, Live '06 may as well be Live '99. When you're talking basketball titles, five & a half years is an eternity. That was my angle. I struggle to play College Hoops 2k8 much anymore because it's so dated, despite it being a superb game for its time. But if you still enjoy Live '06 then by all means keep playing it. Try to milk it for every cent. I hope EA's NBA 2013 is on PC and lets you finally shelve Live '06 once & for all.

Andrew wrote:
The X wrote:Sit kept me out of jail on my Bucks’ Night thanks to his quick talking when the piggies had me in handcuffs (long story, no need to get into that one this time). If it weren’t for the NLSC I would’ve been in lockup to end my Bucks’ Night and had like Brendan Fevola, had a public nuisance charge to my name.


Come now, you can't just mention a story like that in passing and not elaborate! If we do meet up for a beer sometime in the future, I have to hear that one. ;)

I can't give every story away at 10k. It's more of a beer story anyways as is easier to explain in person than in writing :P

Re: Y10K

Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:54 pm

Congrats X!Keep up your good posting and your good moderating! (Y)

Re: Y10K

Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:56 pm

George7 wrote:Congrats X!Keep up your good posting and your good moderating! (Y)

How does one know if they are a good moderator or not? Seems like a hard one to quantify.

Re: Y10K

Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:20 pm

The X wrote:I hate XXXX. Only Aussie beer I'll touch is maybe Blondes & Toohey's Extra Dry. If I'm drinking beer, which isn't much these days, I tend to prefer a Kilkenny, Hoegaarden or a Heineken. Overall, not a huge beer man myself, especially not XXXX :P


Extra Dry it is. (Y)

The X wrote:Don't worry about it, now that forums are combined it doesn't really matter if it's Live or 2k, which is great in my eyes. As for Live '06, I never said I didn't respect the game. It was a pretty good game. I owned it on PC & had a Blazers' Dynasty with it, so I did enjoy it, as I did with Live '98 (very good), '99 (pretty good), '04 (good), '05 (very good).

FYI for everybody else, other basketball games I owned on consoles included NBA Jam (very good), NBA Live '95 (great), NBA Live '97 (mediocre), NBA Live '00 (mediocre - PC version was good, console was not), NBA Live '02 (mediocre), NBA 2k6 (very good), NBA 2k7 (very good), NBA 2k8 (average), NBA 2k9 (above average), NBA 2k10 (average) & NBA 2k11 (very good).

As far as my comment goes, Live '06 may as well be Live '99. When you're talking basketball titles, five & a half years is an eternity. That was my angle. I struggle to play College Hoops 2k8 much anymore because it's so dated, despite it being a superb game for its time. But if you still enjoy Live '06 then by all means keep playing it. Try to milk it for every cent. I hope EA's NBA 2013 is on PC and lets you finally shelve Live '06 once & for all.


All good, I figured you were just ribbing me. :) Even so, I do have to admit it's unusual that I'd still be spending time with 06 these days, though it does have a little more going for it than 99 does in terms of patchability and features so it holds up alright for a last gen game. Like I said though I might do an Association at some point in the future if I do one that I really get into, as we like to stress to people in the Dynasty & Association section it's best to maintain a thread out of enthusiasm for the gaming experience and not just for the sake of doing one. Perhaps after another season or two of my 06 Dynasty, I'll get into an Association or new Dynasty when EA's series makes its return. I'd say 06 will be on the shelf by then. ;)

The X wrote:I can't give every story away at 10k. It's more of a beer story anyways as is easier to explain in person than in writing :P


Fair call. When I come to Brisbane, then. (Y)

Re: Y10K

Fri Jun 03, 2011 10:53 pm

The X wrote:
George7 wrote:Congrats X!Keep up your good posting and your good moderating! (Y)

How does one know if they are a good moderator or not? Seems like a hard one to quantify.


If people don't notice or realize that you're a moderator then you're generally doing a good job. It means you haven't abused your "power" or changed the way you act etc. As far as not doing much, there's really not a huge amount of moderating to be done anyway. Outside of banning spam bots and occasionally moving threads there's nothing on the general boards that needs too much attention, so it's actually a good thing that you aren't doing a great deal :P

Re: Y10K

Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:26 pm

Now that I think about it, I'm some sort of Kevin Ollie :shake:

Re: Y10K

Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:42 am

Congrats on the milestone! 10,000 is a hell of a mark to reach and hopefully we'll get another 10k from you atleast :)

With my dynasty, I like to think of myself as Robert Parish :lol:

Re: Y10K

Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:34 am

Congratulation on having no life and spending your time in this forum and posting over 10K comments.

Nah, I kidd, Im happy for ya, have a beer.. better yet, lets have it together :chug:

Re: Y10K

Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:39 am

Thanks for the shoutout/comparison. You're one of the best posters here, and your Live 2005 story made me join the site (fun fact: I still call Tiago Splitter "Banana Splitter" to this day). Here's to 10K more. :chug:

Re: Y10K

Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:12 am

Shadowgrin is Stephen Jackson of the forums

badreligionau wrote:Congrats on the milestone! 10,000 is a hell of a mark to reach and hopefully we'll get another 10k from you atleast :)

With my dynasty, I like to think of myself as Robert Parish :lol:

Since I've been sticking to current day comparisons, I think of you more as the LaMarcus Aldridge of the forums :P
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