What does the NLSC need?

[Axel]

So in lieu of all the recent whiny posts about the NLSC dwindling down to nothing, I'm going to try something new for once. I think being proactive here will get us a lot farther than just bitching for a change.

I'll open it up for suggestions... since I'm not a mod or anything, I'm basically just looking for suggestions such as contests we could hold, different kinds of threads, get to know each other, contests off the forum, etc , etc. Just toss some ideas out there and I'm sure we can find a few good suggestions.

I would like to see another sig league contest, I enjoyed the last one, and thought it was great. Since then, PS Lounge has really died down, and I think holding some sort of PS contest would be great.

[Colin]

to be interesting at all...

Not a single thread I've seen in a while looked very interesting, let alone actually was interesting.

[cyanide]

I would like to see another sig league contest, I enjoyed the last one, and thought it was great. Since then, PS Lounge has really died down, and I think holding some sort of PS contest would be great.

There were a couple of events that we did, but it died down so quickly after 2 or 3 weeks. It's really up to whether the organizer wants to keep it going and the participants stay consistent. It doesn't hurt to try a new one, though.

[Jugs]

Free porn.

[koberulz]

that wouldn't really make interesting discussion.

the NLSC is dead. nothing can change that. the forum is far from dead, but the community that was pretty much the foundation of this place (and most of what makes this place better than other boards) is pretty much dead.

that said, there's nothing to stop another community from developing. it'll take time though. the first thing i suggest is a stricter moron-watch. the forum got way too out of control with the inmates running the asylum so to speak, we need to tighten up on that in order to keep the few remaining "vets" sane.

[Fenix]

I think Koberulz is right. NLSC is dead. We should take it from there. Live series lost all our respect and we are the ones who should be its fans. We lost our identity once we lost our bond with Live and the only solution is to reinvent ourselves, reinvent this community and become more of a general NBA games forums.

[Ty-Land]

the first thing i suggest is a stricter moron-watch. the forum got way too out of control with the inmates running the asylum so to speak, we need to tighten up on that in order to keep the few remaining "vets" sane.

If you point out the moron's we'll be happy to get rid of them. It's just like that game they used to have at the arcades where you smash the moles on the head when they pop up. Except we don't actually get to hit them (but if we could a sledgehammer would be a necessity )

In my view the NLSC is in a bit of a transition. The elders are leaving, making a bit of a vacuum behind them. We really need people to step up and be active around the place, and preferably a little more optimistic. We can still shape this place into the environment it once was, it will just be different personalities that are prevalent.

As for ideas, nothing really springs to mind immediately. But there are some creative people out there so perhaps we can get something going. I will be really interested to see some peoples ideas though.

[nets4life]

the sig contest was cool to watch but what i found most interesting was steven's 30 man tourney. But something of that scale takes alot of effort and more than one person

[Nick]

The NLSC is not dead. It's thriving. New members joining every day.

What i think the NLSC is lacking is character. Too many boring posters. Bring back the Stevans, Pavels and (i can now unfortunately officially say) the Jae's, etc..

[The X]

Nick, shout me a few brews & I will become one of the more interesting people on the forums

[Ty-Land]

Nick, shout me a few brews & I will become one of the more interesting people on the forums

How about you show us what you've got and we'll back pay you?

[Andrew]

I don't think the site or forum is "dead". We have had a bit of a rough patch with NBA Live 07 proving to be a disappointment and with so many people leaving there is a bit of a transition period as Ty-Land pointed out. It's happened before, it'll happen again. People are too quick to throw up their arms and say all hope is lost instead of doing something about it.

The Forum is what you make it. A lot of people may complain about a lack of good discussions but don't start discussions that interest them. That's a fairly simple solution right there. If you're not interested in talking about what's already on offer...why not try starting a topic yourself? If we all sit around and say "I shouldn't be the one that has to make an effort" then nothing is going to be accomplished. Having said that, I'm sure there's more we can do to improve everyone's Forum experience so if there are any other suggestions let's have them.

On the subject of contests: I was actually planning to have a contest of some sort with a copy of NBA Live 07 as the prize but the problems with the game have put that idea on hold.

Anyway, moved to NLSC Issues. As I said before, if anyone has any ideas by all means post them.

[Andreas Dahl]

I agree with Andrew. This place isn't dead by any means, it's just in a low period right now. It'll get better.
However they do seem to occur more and more frequently, and in my opinion the only ones to blame for that is EA.
And, as Andrew also said, if you can't find a good discussion, make one.

On the subject of contests: I was actually planning to have a contest of some sort with a copy of NBA Live 07 as the prize but the problems with the game have put that idea on hold.

How about a copy of NBA Live 2000 instead.. That would certainly be more to aim for

[Nick]

IOn the subject of contests: I was actually planning to have a contest of some sort with a copy of NBA Live 07 as the prize but the problems with the game have put that idea on hold.

I like your thinking. That sounds cool.

Maybe a little event like that would be beneficial.

[JaoSming]

maybe an official screenshot or video contest? i mean those can go without prizes.

Screenshots categories: unedited and photoshoped
Video: game footage only

and to be fair they shouldnt be limited to 1 game. so allow any NBA Lives.

[BigKaboom2]

I've noticed that hardly any of the forum veterans start threads in the Live sections. It seems that 98% of threads are started by people with 40 posts or fewer, and that's my opinion as to why the Live section is dying away.

[BIG GREEN]

What the nlsc needs is for people to stop talking about how dead it is. Don't encourage spammers and lamers on the forums and continue trying to make fun and interesting topics. I like andrew's idea about the contest...but i'd rather if the prize was a choice of either nba live 07 or nba 2k7. I don't really like the idea of promoting EA's poor product which is subsequently one of the reasons the community is doing so poorly since it's superficially based on nba live.

[Jackal]

I don't think the NLSC is dying per se, I think what the forum needs is personality.

Everyone just blends in now days, you can't differentiate between posters, everyone is trying to be someone else. I mean everyone is trying to be a Jae or an Andrew or Matthew.

There are only a handful of posters who I actually look forward to reading now days, and they also post so sporadically. I'm just being honest here, but I'd understand if people feel I'm ripping them or whatever it is they like to think.

Even Andrew doesn't post as often as he once used to, maybe that has to do with the fact that he's busy with work and what not, but he's become a lot more serious, that's what I think. But, the fact that he has to work with computers the whole day probably adds to the fact he may not want to visit as he once used to.

Secondly, everyone says that the posters should make new topics, I agree with this, I honestly do. But, that doesn't mean that team members should just not make an effort. I've read Andrew has the competition idea, but other members should also make an effort and by effort I don't only mean doing their role/job.

That's the biggest loss the NLSC is suffering with Jae & Matthew, they were constantly trying to bring something new & exciting to the table, not just doing their "roles". Jae had his reality shows, his weekly recaps and his sig leagues. Matthew had his fantasy leagues, one on one vs Andrew, articles and various other things. That's what sets them apart from other team members, I'm not singling anyone out, I've got no animosity towards any of the team members nor am I bitter that I am no longer part of the staff.

The NLSC has been in a dip like this before, that's back when Jae & Matthew weren't part of the staff and the lounge didn't exsist.

To better the NLSC, the effort and new ideas have to come from both sides, the team and the individual posters.

I see it as a good thing that older posters are leaving, this makes room for new posters, let me try to explain my views on this.

If the old posters stuck around and new posters made a topic about something that's been discussed in the era of the old posters, the topic would be closed. Now, that older members are leaving, newer members may be able to respawn topics that have already been discussed.

I'm still uncertain about whether I want to help the NLSC out in my own way. A lot of individual members have always encouraged me, but the fact that the staff has its issues with me & I have issues with them adds to that awkward feeling. The uncertainty of wanting to help out or not.

If you can make head or tail of this post, congratulations, I just rambled off the feelings I've had ever since I came back from my grandfathers cremation and now it's all out in the open. Best of luck to all of you's & everyone that needs to get in touch with me always has that option.

[Indy]

I don't think the NLSC is dying per se, I think what the forum needs is personality.

Everyone just blends in now days, you can't differentiate between posters, everyone is trying to be someone else. I mean everyone is trying to be a Jae or an Andrew or Matthew.

There are only a handful of posters who I actually look forward to reading now days, and they also post so sporadically. I'm just being honest here, but I'd understand if people feel I'm ripping them or whatever it is they like to think.

Even Andrew doesn't post as often as he once used to, maybe that has to do with the fact that he's busy with work and what not, but he's become a lot more serious, that's what I think. But, the fact that he has to work with computers the whole day probably adds to the fact he may not want to visit as he once used to.

Secondly, everyone says that the posters should make new topics, I agree with this, I honestly do. But, that doesn't mean that team members should just not make an effort. I've read Andrew has the competition idea, but other members should also make an effort and by effort I don't only mean doing their role/job.

That's the biggest loss the NLSC is suffering with Jae & Matthew, they were constantly trying to bring something new & exciting to the table, not just doing their "roles". Jae had his reality shows, his weekly recaps and his sig leagues. Matthew had his fantasy leagues, one on one vs Andrew, articles and various other things. That's what sets them apart from other team members, I'm not singling anyone out, I've got no animosity towards any of the team members nor am I bitter that I am no longer part of the staff.

The NLSC has been in a dip like this before, that's back when Jae & Matthew weren't part of the staff and the lounge didn't exsist.

To better the NLSC, the effort and new ideas have to come from both sides, the team and the individual posters.

I see it as a good thing that older posters are leaving, this makes room for new posters, let me try to explain my views on this.

If the old posters stuck around and new posters made a topic about something that's been discussed in the era of the old posters, the topic would be closed. Now, that older members are leaving, newer members may be able to respawn topics that have already been discussed.

I'm still uncertain about whether I want to help the NLSC out in my own way. A lot of individual members have always encouraged me, but the fact that the staff has its issues with me & I have issues with them adds to that awkward feeling. The uncertainty of wanting to help out or not.

If you can make head or tail of this post, congratulations, I just rambled off the feelings I've had ever since I came back from my grandfathers cremation and now it's all out in the open. Best of luck to all of you's & everyone that needs to get in touch with me always has that option.

I bolded everything I agreed with, Bold/Italics what I REALLY agreed with and underlined what I didn't agree with.

I've been here almost 2 years. In that time, I have played almost zero NBA live, and the only reason I stayed was because there were posters like you, Matthew, Jae, Riot etc. Now that all of you are leaving or rarely post, I felt like there was no reason for me to be here anymore.

I don't feel the drive to help try and re-build or anything like that, but I do have a whole lot of time on my hands at work when I'm not working, and I still seem to automatically go here right after Pacers Digest, so I also don't feel the need to leave. I've decided to make the best of the situation, and I have talked to Andrew about modding certain sections. I think that may help me stay too, because it will bring something new to the experience here, maybe I can have some fun with it.

[[Q]]

The Forum is what you make it. A lot of people may complain about a lack of good discussions but don't start discussions that interest them. That's a fairly simple solution right there. If you're not interested in talking about what's already on offer...why not try starting a topic yourself? If we all sit around and say "I shouldn't be the one that has to make an effort" then nothing is going to be accomplished. Having said that, I'm sure there's more we can do to improve everyone's Forum experience so if there are any other suggestions let's have them.

I completely agree with this. I think if people truly want to see this community thrive, it will take a lot of time and/or effort on all of our parts to make it better.

as far as contest prizes go, I liked Andreas's idea of NBA Live 2000 as a prize because most people on this forum picked up the series in Live 2004 and beyond. I wouldn't mind a prize of NBA Live '98 or 2000 as a prize.

[Indy]

Whichever Live has Mitch Richmond on the cover should be a prize.

[Drex]

The NLSC needs interesting people, with brains.

[Axel]

I had Live 98 I believe. Or 2000. Not sure which one, but it had a blue and silver disc.... anyhow..

Same goes for me as Indy. I play very little NBA live, and I actually came to this forum for a place to talk about the NBA in general. Perhaps with the start of the new season we can do something fun with that.. I've already started a new thread for the daily predictions.

[Indy]

The NLSC needs interesting people, with brains.

Bad joke alert

Sorry Drex, but when I become a mod you'll be banned. I'm going to take your advice.

[bigh0rt]

I heard there's a screenshot tournament that has sign-ups going on.