"Suicide is painless"

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"Suicide is painless"

Postby Andrew on Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:17 pm

I'm guessing that will grab some attention. But those are words I've taken from the theme song of the 1970 comedy "M*A*S*H", a successful film starring Donald Sutherland and Elliott Gould as two surgeons serving in a field hospital during the Korean War. The movie was of course later remade into a television series of the same name, dropping the lyrics from the theme and adopting more traditional sitcom conventions.

Both were before my time - the series actually ended a year or so before I was born - but as both have been shown in the last couple of decades plus in syndication I've become a fan, especially of the series. Though many would disagree (especially the patrons of JumpTheShark.com), I feel it was one of those unique shows that didn't have a weak episode, maintained the same quality throughout the series run and in some cases even got better as it went along.

It was also one of those rare shows that managed to successfully replace main characters without a decline in quality, though once again JTS regulars will no doubt disagree. Perhaps the theme accommodated the notion; after all, it was the army. Folks were getting transferred, discharged and replaced in reality so it made sense to get fresh blood into the show too. Perhaps the new characters were disliked because with them came a change in the dynamic and to a certain extent the direction of the show. But I think that evolution kept the show fresh.

The other common criticism is that once Alan Alda became more involved in the production of the series as a writer, "creative consultant" and director the tone of the show changed for the worse becoming too "preachy". There's an element of truth in that but the show was never pro-war to begin with and again, it was that change that allowed them to explore new plots and themes...and the comedy remained. That was one of the most brilliant aspects of M*A*S*H: the way it combined its social commentary with fantastic humour and situation comedy. It wasn't just hi-jinks at the front, it wasn't anti-war propaganda...it was both of those and neither at the same time.

I actually prefer the middle of the run and later seasons to the early ones. I felt Colonel Potter was a stronger character than Henry Blake and the wit in his character was funnier that Colonel Blake's ineptness. I found Major "Hot Lips" Houlihan more interesting as she developed a distaste for war despite her militaristic upbringing as the war dragged on compared to her early appearances simply as a character to loathe as she tried to get those who weren't "military" enough into trouble. While there was plenty of humour in Major Frank Burns' character, Major Winchester provided something new, something different. And BJ Hunnicutt felt like a better compliment to Alda's Hawkeye than Trapper.

Before I go on and on, I'll pause (just as I did in the Drew Carey thread) to see if there's anyone else who likes this show. Otherwise, I'll be discussing it with myself. :P
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Postby Jugs on Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:22 pm

I didn't know there was a movie, I've watched quite a few episodes of it on Fox Classics because my father likes that show. he also likes Hogans Heroes :headbang: which is another good show.

Back to M*A*S*H, the episodes i've seen, were all good, they would have 1 or 2 funny ass lines and the other funny bits would be funny still :?

Yeah even though this show is like 21 years older than me, i've seen it and i don't mind it
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Postby Fenix on Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:35 pm

Movie is great and when the show ran here, I watched it every time. Simply one of the best TV shows of all time. And I agree with you with the whole Potter/Blake situations.
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Postby Cameron on Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:07 am

I love hawkeye's sarcasm on the occasional times I watch the show. Additionally, Donald Sutherland = Canadian. (Y)
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Postby Jing on Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:30 am

i watched a couple eps when i was bored. it was alright
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Postby dada on Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:58 am

I have never seen a single episode, I watch too much sports I guess. Must be good for you to sing its praises like that.
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Postby Bang on Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:31 am

Stewie sings that song in the Family Guy movie, Stewie Griffin: The Untold Story.

That suicide is painless
It brings on many changes
and I can take or leave it if I please.

I watched some episodes and I didn't really find them funny. The humor just seemed to be way too plain. Maybe I saw some horrible episodes. (The later ones maybe?) I remember one about them holding an olympics or something and it was just filled with horrible horrible puns and obvious jokes that it made me cringe in horror. I know that the series takes place in the Korean war and if I remember correctly the Koreans that appear rarely in the show have triangle hats like Vietnam and speak some language that is certainly not Korean. Oh well, what would America be without its ignorance and racism.
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Postby Andrew on Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:42 pm

I watched some episodes and I didn't really find them funny. The humor just seemed to be way too plain. Maybe I saw some horrible episodes. (The later ones maybe?) I remember one about them holding an olympics or something and it was just filled with horrible horrible puns and obvious jokes that it made me cringe in horror.


Wow...I mean, you're entitled to your opinion and all but the puns and the back-an-forth were brilliant. I guess if you don't like that kind of humour it would seem rather dry though.

I know that the series takes place in the Korean war and if I remember correctly the Koreans that appear rarely in the show have triangle hats like Vietnam and speak some language that is certainly not Korean. Oh well, what would America be without its ignorance and racism.


You could say the same about the stereotypical portrayal of Germans in shows such as "Hogan's Heroes" and the British "'Allo 'Allo".
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