oh great, the new pope is/was a nazi...

[Mazzocchi]

Aparently, the guy they elected as pope was a member of Hitler Youth... Also, he hates women, gays and just about everyone else... This guy has all the bad things that John Paul had and none of the good ones...

[The X]

if you don't like him there is always a bright side, as the prophecies say that this pope won't live for long

[COOLmac©]

which prophecy is that?

[Amphatoast]

ya i was wondering why would he become pope after being in the german army for hitler..

[The X]

thought I'd heard it around but maybe I was reading too much into Riot's comments ....check out some Nostradamus and the Malachy Prophecy....provides interesting reading....although Nostradamus seems to suggest that the new Pope will reign for a while....so once again, I need to check my sources before blabbing unsubstantiated rumours

[J@3]

ARGHAOPDFJPDJOAKD FPOJSOFJSF

Actually, everyone that age in those days had to be part of the Hitler Youth. They had no choice.

Give the guy a break, people are acting asthough he strapped on a swastika badge and gassed some Jews or something.

[Doobie]

oooo well a nazi pope , nothing wrong with that . only a couple jewish deaths and thats about it.

[Mazzocchi]

oooo well a nazi pope , nothing wrong with that . only a couple jewish deaths and thats about it.

yeah nothing that bad.
Not like annybody that mattered died

[J@3]

ARGHAOPDFJPDJOAKD FPOJSOFJSF

Actually, everyone that age in those days had to be part of the Hitler Youth. They had no choice.

Give the guy a break, people are acting asthough he strapped on a swastika badge and gassed some Jews or something.

[J@3]

For the people in the cheap seats...

The truth is that as Ratzinger mentions himself in Milestones: Memoirs: 1927 - 1977, he and his brother George were both enrolled in the Hitler Youth (at a time when membership was compulsory), and discusses family life under the Third Reich in chapters 2-4 of his autobiography.

Likewise, John Allen Jr., journalist for the National Catholic Reporter and author of 2002's biography of the Cardinal The Vatican's Enforcer of the Faith, -- supplies the historical details sorely lacking in one of his many articles on the Cardinal:

As a seminarian, he was briefly enrolled in the Hitler Youth in the early 1940s, though he was never a member of the Nazi party. In 1943 he was conscripted into an antiaircraft unit guarding a BMW plant outside Munich. Later Ratzinger was sent to Austria's border with Hungary to erect tank traps. After being shipped back to Bavaria, he deserted. When the war ended, he was an American prisoner of war.

Under Hitler, Ratzinger says he watched the Nazis twist and distort the truth. Their lies about Jews, about genetics, were more than academic exercises. People died by the millions because of them. The church's service to society, Ratzinger concluded, is to stand for absolute truths that function as boundary markers: Move about within these limits, but outside them lies disaster.

Later reflection on the Nazi experience also left Ratzinger with a conviction that theology must either bind itself to the church, with its creed and teaching authority, or it becomes the plaything of outside forces -- the state in a totalitarian system or secular culture in Western liberal democracies. In a widely noted 1986 lecture in Toronto, Ratzinger put it this way: "A church without theology impoverishes and blinds, while a churchless theology melts away into caprice." *

[Tuomas]

another pope thread? he's not that bad

[Indy]

ya i was wondering why would he become pope after being in the german army for hitler..

well during ww2 the catholic church and the pope at the time condoned the nazi actions. In fact they were pretty large supporters of the Nazis. Doesnt seem strange to me that a nazi would become pope.

[Dramacydal]

another pope thread? he's not that bad

hes conservative, enough said. fortuneately hell wont be the pope for too long since hes already pretty old

[cyanide]

well during ww2 the catholic church and the pope at the time condoned the nazi actions. In fact they were pretty large supporters of the Nazis. Doesnt seem strange to me that a nazi would become pope.

Well, the current pope wasn't a Nazi considering how he was forced to be put into the Hitler Youth movement. I think the Catholic Church at the time of WWII were partly under political pressure to agree with Hitler.. Hitler after all did say, "And in this hour we sink to our knees and beseech our Almighty God that He may bless us, that He may give us the strength to carry on the struggle for the freedom, the future, the honor, and the peace of our people." So if Hitler was speaking for God, then the Church would probably condone it... of course, I wouldn't be surprised if there was antisemitism in the Church or having the one-view righteous stance on the Church having the one true religion over Jews.

[Indy]

Cy: I was just saying that its not like it would be amazingly wierd if there was a nazi pope. Its not like the two things contradict each other.

[cyanide]

I know I didn't say you were wrong or disagree with you on anything, I was just elaborating on what you said.

[Indy]

I know I didn't say you were wrong or disagree with you on anything, I was just elaborating on what you said.

No worries!

[Ataraxia]

Well luckily he doesnt own nuclear bombs so dont matter...nor does he have the power to kill Jews

Hmm strange, Bush called him a man of wisdom.....well Saddam and Osama were "friends" of the Americans....so I guess it wont be long before Bush bombs the vatican and says the Pope was trying to start a Nazi revolution and that he wanted to free the ppl of Rome.

[iG®]

I guess it wont be long before Bush bombs the vatican and says the Pope was trying to start a Nazi revolution and that he wanted to free the ppl of Rome.

lol.And then,Bush becomes a pope.The Bombedict I

[iG®]

Nazi or not,he condemns Spain gay bill.

Story

[Goldberg]

Hitler's youth... What did they do there? Sell cookies and learn to make camp fires? Pope wasn't a nazi, he was in the church helping whoever was in power channel the propaganda of the days... he was probably like Bush "The War President" who dudge the Vietnam war and never seen combat... he probably has never met a gay or been with a woman or whatever bs he is against....