Fight Club = Calvin and Hobbes... ???

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Fight Club = Calvin and Hobbes... ???

Postby Indy on Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:51 pm

This is an amazingly interesting article.

IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN FIGHT CLUB AND YOU WANT TO SEE IT DO NOT READ THIS ARTICLE!!!! I REPEAT...

IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN FIGHT CLUB AND YOU WANT TO SEE IT DO NOT READ THIS ARTICLE!!!!

http://ignatz.brinkster.net/cfightclub.html
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Postby cyanide on Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:54 pm

I love Fight Club, and I bookmarked the site, and I'll read it later and comment on it. I got so much homework, but I wanna thank you for this link, firstly, since I'm a big Fight Club fan :D
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Postby Null17 on Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:27 pm

just woke up. so i'm not in the mood to read. but based on the topic title. i already agree with it
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Postby Indy on Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:22 am

yeah. my only question is...

was this done on purpose by the guy (cant remember his name) who wrote the fight club book??
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Postby Andreas Dahl on Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:48 am

I'm not in the mood of reading that entire article, partially because I just got my computer to work for the first time in a few days, and partially because it doesn't quite seem like a serious article at all (Dual Victims of Testicular Cancer? :|)...
Here's a few things I came to think of when browsing through it though;
    Tyler: Does not excist anywhere but in Jacks mind.
    Hobbes: Does excist (as a toy) but is made to life in Calvins mind.

    Tyler: Feels that drastic changes are need to be done by all meens neccecary
    Calvin: Does not feel that the world need to change, but only the people around him. He does not feel like making drastic changes through any meens neccecary since he could spend all that time watching TV and eating cerials instead...
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Postby Indy on Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:09 am

what are you talking about? calvin does exsist, do you mean hobbes??

plus the article is saying that calvin is like jack, not tyler.
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Postby Andreas Dahl on Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:27 am

Well yea, ok. I changed the name in the first one...

I won't change the second one though since I find those two characters more comparable when it comes to the point i was trying to make. Never mind it then...
I'm not quite sure, since I haven't read the article, on why Hobbes would be more like Tyler though? Since Tyler is the "bad" version of Jack although Hobbes is sort of the "good" version of Calvin since he is the "bad" one.
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Postby Indy on Wed Mar 16, 2005 5:37 am

i get what your saying, just read the whole article first please (Y)
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Postby Null17 on Wed Mar 16, 2005 2:42 pm

holy crap. that was long. only read the first three parts of it. screw it. he's basically
saying that fight club characters are calvin and hobbes characters that grew up. don't know what his point was if it is though? maybe some other time when i feel like reading again
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Postby Eugene on Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:05 am

If I remember correctly (and if you haven't yet seen Fight Club, stop reading), Jack and Tyler Durden are in fact one and the same person. So, the comparison doesn't really work: Hobbes is a doll come to life by strength of Calvin's imagination, while Tyler Durden is a separate entity existing within the one person, Jack.
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Postby Indy on Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:42 pm

look,

(i would say stop reading if you havent seen the movie, but if your dumb enough to go in this forum after seeing what it was about in the first place, and you dont want to find out the ending, then you deserve to have it ruined.)

that said, the article does not say that it is identicle situation it is just showing some amazing comparisons, and similarities.

it didnt state a DIRECT corralation.
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Postby Eugene on Fri Mar 18, 2005 2:37 am

Yeah, it kinda did.

"...for by the time you finish reading this page, I will prove to you beyond a shadow of a doubt that Ed Norton is indeed playing the part of grown-up Calvin."
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Postby cyanide on Fri Mar 18, 2005 4:53 am

ok, I finally read it, and that took a while, but I thought it was a really good article. The author does a nice job making correlations, but his argument for Susie is Marla is poor, but the connection of Hobbes & Susie and Marla & Tyler is great. Even though the personalities of Calvin and Jack are very different, the main point the author was trying to make was that they both create a personification of their repressed selves. Though, I do agree with Eugene that "Hobbes is a doll come to life by strength of Calvin's imagination, while Tyler Durden is a separate entity existing within the one person, Jack."
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Postby air gordon on Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:41 am

interesting article. but there's not mention of the marla paralellism... you can aruge that she was a figment of jack's imagination as well :wink:
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Postby Indy on Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:27 am

air gordon wrote:interesting article. but there's not mention of the marla paralellism... you can aruge that she was a figment of jack's imagination as well :wink:


but she wasnt.
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Postby air gordon on Fri Mar 18, 2005 11:26 pm

lol ok. you're not being fun. personally i don't like this calvin & hobbes comparison. i guess there are some but just through coincidence.

the movie/book has a much deeper meaning on many levels and definitely gets you thinking about certain social/personnal issues. maybe it's just me, but the movie hit home hard since it's a movie about the X-generation, which i fall under
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Postby Heiks on Sat Mar 19, 2005 3:57 am

all i can say is that this guy is just obsessed with calvin & hobbes... imho: b/s!

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