U.S okays death penalty to minors!

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U.S okays death penalty to minors!

Postby COOLmac© on Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:30 am

me and my girl were driving home last night when the radio starts to runt about an american bill being pass to make the death punishment to crimes commited by minors. i don't know if it is official yet, but hey we are talking teens and youngsters here. your views pls. anyone :idea:
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Postby Doobie on Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:43 am

you have a girl!!!? :shock:
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Postby Matthew on Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:47 am

LMAO!! See Jae, this is burn of the week material, not what i said to wigger matt :proud:
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Postby Username123 on Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:20 am

Our teacher told about this today in Business class
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Postby Jona on Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:42 am

This is BS, I can't believe the US approved capital punishment to a minor, that is just not ethical. (N)
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Postby Doobie on Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:48 am

For some reason i sort of agree , a crime is a crime , if you are 13 and kill 100 people and if you are 28 and kill 10 people , it doesnt matter , u still kill 100 people. I agree but it should only be used in extreme circumstances , not for a stupid crime.
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Postby IronMan on Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:11 pm

Well okay, but I really doubt a 13 year old will kill 100 people. I still don't think it's very fair to minors. I'd revert back to the saying, "Well, they don't know better." ESPECIALLY with all the information that's floating around these days, our children are no longer innocent. They are exposed to a lot more, certainly more than I was. They simply do not have the maturity to fully be conscience of what they are doing. OR, maybe redefine the age of a minor. 16 and under?
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Postby Doobie on Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:20 pm

Still murder is murder , I think kids now are smarter then before , they may be exposed to whats wrong but they should know that murder is wrong , a sane person that is old enough to think , should be able to know that they did something wrong , age isnt anything but a number , a minor should still be smart enough to know if something is wrong or right , they are taugth that in pree school.
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Postby Mazzocchi on Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:22 pm

i can see the advertising campaign now...
United States- You Kill Someone, And We Will Kill You Back!
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Postby IronMan on Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:26 pm

No way, I think you're oversimplifying things way too much. Take that case a few years ago, about a kid who shot his whole family because of a Power Ranger episode he saw on TV. He was simply imitating his favourite TV characters (who are portrayed as not doing anything wrong) and took his father's gun and fired. Do you think a sane kid would shoot his own family and siblings? This kid had no mental problems whatsoever. He just did not have the maturity to fully grasp the consequences of his actions.

Once again, kids are exposed to a lot more things in this age, influencing them to do things that they might not have done before. I strongly believe that there is a certain age where you are not in touch with reality simply because you do not have the required knowledge.
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Postby Doobie on Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:33 pm

Broken Wings you hold a pretty good debate but my mind doesn't change , i still believe a minor is smart enough to know that killing is wrong . that power rangers story i never heard of , but that kid was probably too young too know what common sense is , but up to a certain age kids dont know what common sense is . I do believe minors also deserve punishment for murder , maybe even the death penalty.
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Postby Indy on Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:47 pm

RIDICULOUS!

the death penalty is one of the most flawed systems ever created. it is extremley primitive and racist. the US is the only technilogically advanced country to still use it. it is an utter disappointment.

and giving it to kids is COMPLETLY ridiculous.
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Postby Doobie on Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:51 pm

I guess I am the only one here who actually agress with it because violence is growing now-a-days especially with minors
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Postby Indy on Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:53 pm

DoobieKnicks wrote:I guess I am the only one here who actually agress with it because violence is growing now-a-days especially with minors


i think violence is a problem yes.

but i have HUGE moral issues with the death penalty.
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Postby Doobie on Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:56 pm

yes the death penalty may sometimes be racial but on a more serious note , do you expect that 'white america' will ever accept non-white people to be one of them (no offense please)
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Postby Andrew on Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:59 pm

I personally believe that if the death penalty is going to be used, it should be reserved for the most violent criminals who are basically undisputably guilty. For example, the last man to be executed in Australia may not have even been guilty; there is still debate over that.

I think minors shouldn't be eligible for such harsh punishments, but at the same time minors who are clearly dangerous to others shouldn't be treated lightly just because of their age.
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Postby Doobie on Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:01 pm

Yes i agree wit that andrew , only harsh crimes should be punished , no matter what the age.
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Postby cyanide on Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:05 pm

Minors are young, and young minds aren't exactly the wisest of minds. These kids need help, not an early death.
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Postby Waz on Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:14 pm

yeh i agree with andrew, also i think the minors should go through harsh psychological testing before the death penalty is decided on
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Postby Indy on Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:15 pm

cyanide wrote:Minors are young, and young minds aren't exactly the wisest of minds. These kids need help, not an early death.


exactly correct.

i believe in rehabilhitation over death or prison.
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Postby Waz on Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:17 pm

IndyPacers67 wrote:
cyanide wrote:Minors are young, and young minds aren't exactly the wisest of minds. These kids need help, not an early death.


exactly correct.

i believe in rehabilhitation over death or prison.
yeh i agree but if they are quite obviously dangerous and it is unlikely they can be rehabilitated its a safer option
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Postby COOLmac© on Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:25 pm

yep i do have a girl and we plan on getting marriedby the end of the year or next year after i got the house into a pretty livaeble shape first. (Y)

Minors are young, and young minds aren't exactly the wisest of minds. These kids need help, not an early death


got nothing to add. it pretty sums everything up (Y) (Y) (Y)
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Postby Andrew on Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:28 pm

But above all, I think it has to be pretty clear that the person is guilty. Throughout history, a lot of innocent people have been sentenced to death and some of them have later been cleared of all charges, though a lot of good that does once their life has been taken away.
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Postby Indy on Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:44 pm

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cyanide wrote:Minors are young, and young minds aren't exactly the wisest of minds. These kids need help, not an early death.


exactly correct.

i believe in rehabilhitation over death or prison.
yeh i agree but if they are quite obviously dangerous and it is unlikely they can be rehabilitated its a safer option


absolutly, but i think life in jail should always be a better option then the death penalty.

no person does any bad to the world living their life in prison.
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Postby COOLmac© on Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:52 pm

no person does any bad to the world living their life in prison.


only to those living in the prison world.........like rumbles and gang ups inside prison (N) but hey i didn't say they should be isolated in some chamber alone. rumbles in prison is pretty much what you get for getting your ass in there in the first place :lol: .
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